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99GSBBTurboMay-13-01 06:35 AM
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#4923, "I feel sick to my stomach."




          

Did I blow my engine or a gasket??

I went with my friends to the races...well they all were pressering my into raising the boost, so I could beat this GS-T who was talking all this shit about my car. Well I really didn't want to but I did...to 9-10psi, because it's suppose to be ok every once and a while...right?? Well, I made one run and everything was fine. Then I made a second run about 15-20mins later and after that run, I hear this knocking sound on the right side of the engine. Every thing was ok too...I had plenty of fuel and my boost stayed at 10psi. Then my oil light comes on...but turns off right away. Then a little bit later...it blinks for a couple of seconds and turns off again.

Well I open my hood and my breather sprayed a lot of oil all over my engine. So I took it off, so my engine could breath. I checked my plug wires and no oil in the hole. I drive home with it this way. It ran fine all the way home, but this sound was bad, I know it. Then when I was almost home...my check engine light comes on, and stayed on the rest of the way home. Maybe for about 8min.

It sounds like a chug sound on the bottom right side of the engine. Well today I check my oil and it's almost completely empty. PLEASE help me...I feel sick to my stomach. I keep trying to tell myself it's just a car, but I can't get this feeling to go away. Does the engine make a chug sound on the right side when you blow a gasket??? Or did I blow my engine???? What if I add oil...will that fix that sound. It sounds fine when I start it and it runs fine...it's just that chuging sound that is REALLY bothering me!! It sounds like a really old engine. And it idel's fine also.

I'm sorry this is so long, but I REALLY need you guys...I feel helpless. Thank you





Ball Bearing Star Stage II
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I use to have a White 99 GS Sport with a Star Stage II Ball Bearing T3/T4 turbo...it was fun untill....well those who remember me know Oh Ya...this is what I have now... a 99' GSX...

  

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MWCMay-13-01 07:09 AM
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#4924, "I hate to tell you but...."
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You blew your motor.
ie. rings/rod or piston failure
Sorry.





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TeamStan2gntMay-13-01 07:11 AM
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#4925, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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LAST EDITED ON 13-May-01 AT 12:17 PM (PST)

Saw your post in general so I came here. I'd first do a compression test to see if the top end is any good. If your compression is okay and your still hearing noise you may have spun a bearing once the oil got low (before or during the races). I would suspect a bearing because of the low oil, oil pressure light and noise (plus its pretty common to spin em). Then again oil all over the engine from the breather doesn't sound too encouraging either. Let us know how it turns out. First describe the noise in a little more detail before we jump to conclusions ans any other symptoms that STILL remain. Really I think you've blown it too because of the oil all over the engine and check engine lights ect. Those aren't symptoms of a spun bearing.



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ShantMay-13-01 07:14 AM
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#4926, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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No I think I know that sound, is it a clunking sound, liek a raaaaa raaaaa(roll tougne)at a few certain RPM K and then go awa?? if so I bet you spun a bearings on the crank, That's what mine sounded like, Do a compression test, Sory to hear about that...

Shant 98 turbo Avenger

  

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9D9 MITSU RSMay-13-01 08:30 AM
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#4927, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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I thought our motors could handle 9-10 PSI with stage 2 FMIC? What's the max u can run with stock internals? I was planning on 8. Would it blow?

  

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TeamJeff_99gsMay-13-01 09:25 AM
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#4928, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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Well it depends.....the T3/4 flows a bit more air than the 16G does, even at the same boost level. 10psi on an HRC kit is not the same as 10psi on the Star kit. I don't really know if it matters all that much, but it seems to make sense that if the HRC kit has been said to be safe at 10psi in stage 2 format, then the Star might be safer with less? anyone have any numbers to back this up?

It just seems that the Star kit seems to be causing more problems than the HRC kit. (yes, I know 95% of them are user error, but that doesn't mean that the HRC kit can't have the same types of errors)

I'm not trying at all to knock the Star kit....I just wonder why there are so many more engine problems with them over the HRC.


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99GSBBTurboMay-13-01 09:25 AM
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#4929, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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Shant...ya it's like a raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa sound, but it doesn't stop. And it happens from idle to 3,000. Well I didn't go over 3,000 with it sounding like that so I don't know if it stops there. But I think it does stop there, or at least get quieter. Whats worse...blown motor...or bearing???

How much $$$ do you guys think I'm looking at here?? My friend told me to take out the turbo and stuff, and bring it into Mitsubishi and have them to warrenty work on it. What do you guys think I should do??

Thank You for all your help!!



Ball Bearing Star Stage II
"Power is nothing without control"


I use to have a White 99 GS Sport with a Star Stage II Ball Bearing T3/T4 turbo...it was fun untill....well those who remember me know Oh Ya...this is what I have now... a 99' GSX...

  

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MWCMay-13-01 09:38 AM
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#4930, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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It is realy all the same as far as $$ wise goes. A rebuild would be in order no matter if it was a bearing or a ring or a rod/piston. Do not run the car anymore until you get it looked at, cause you could damage the block if not already. You could try the removal of the turbo and take it to the dealer. Its worth a try!
Good luck.
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MWCMay-13-01 09:40 AM
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#4931, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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LAST EDITED ON 13-May-01 AT 02:41 PM (PST)

sorry double post

  

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LotalonMay-13-01 09:51 AM
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#4932, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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sorry man u smoked bottom bearing on your crank

i did the same thing last year.

oil pump died and boom there she goes

pull up to a light and idle the oil light would come on
drive away and light goes off.
engine light came on after sittin for a few days and me starting it back up.

It has nothing to do wiht the turbo just stupid oil pump!

drop the oil pan and move your rods up and down and look for play
mine was the furthest from the timing belt that went

Dont drive it alot mine rubbed so much they had to rechrome the crank to machine it to fit on there!!

as well had to change pistons and rods on 2 so i went all oout and bored the sucker and went all new pistons and rings from Je and Crower


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9D9 MITSU RSMay-13-01 01:49 PM
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#4933, "RE: I feel sick to my stomach."
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That is right I think. The star is bigger or there is something different. May be the BB? HRC doesn't use BB option. U can run about 10 PSI b/c it won't push as hard as the star kit. I don't wanna start an argument, but I think I am definitely getting HRC 100% sure. I have been seeing a lot of posts about the star kits fucking shit up. And maybe it's not that bad, but I am all new with the whole turbo scene, so I know I need Turbo for idiots( HRC) they have tech support.

Good luck getting your car fixed tho.

  

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