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Hult250RJun-22-04 11:33 AM
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#10480, "Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
Jun-22-04 11:34 AM by Hult250R



          

Take a look at this thread i started a few days ago.
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=9237&mesg_id=9237&page=

I tested the clutch like Mattcky2k said and its ok. It grabs like 1/4 of the way up.
I dont know whats up...
THe car feels kinda faster from about 3-5K rpms but thats it
It still does the stuttering when you give it full trottle...
What gives?? Im about to give up...


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HybriDSMJun-22-04 11:55 AM
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#10481, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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Jun-22-04 11:57 AM by HybriDSM

          

Give us as much info as you possibly can.

Also, I believe stock timing is 23 degrees. You have your timing pulled it sounds like.

More info though. Try typing it out again as that may help you remember little things that we need to know. I read your other thread and will post more when I am not at work.

You have all new knock and O2 sensors? How much have you tuned? What are you tuning with? Are you pocketlogging it?

Make sure those sensors are spot on and also that you tune by knock. That;s the best way to start.



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qc dsm tsiJun-22-04 11:56 AM
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#10482, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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dont give up mang
we'll get more tuning tonight!

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FlyinEsiJun-22-04 12:11 PM
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#10483, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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Jun-22-04 12:13 PM by FlyinEsi



          

Is it running good from 5K-redline?

If so, check this out http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/techbulletins/tech_mrbishi1.htm fixed my problem of hesitation between 3500-5500 when I first bought the car.

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Hult250RJun-22-04 12:25 PM
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#10484, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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also, Ive been reading about setting timing to 5*btdc... wtf doses that mean? lol Im a Noob when it comes to tuning this damn thing...

my setup:
small 16G at 19 psi
AFC
datalogger
stock 1G mas with lower honeycomb removed and screw backed out flush
FMIC with 2 1/4 piping
255 FP
650 Injectors
No AFPR
3" N1 turbo back
external Dump 02 housing

ANy ideas where my base tune should be at?
Ive got em all fugged up right now lol
I started at like Lo's were about -20 and my Hi's were about -15
does that sound about right??



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I used to have a 420A...


'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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FlyinEsiJun-22-04 12:29 PM
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#10485, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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I think you have your lows and hi's set wrong on the SAFC. With my 550s my lows start at -16% and my highs start at -25%, but I am running a little rich right now.

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Vandy420aJun-22-04 02:33 PM
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#10486, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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after I meet with hybrid (tomorrow good for you? ) then i'll be doign the same thing (tuning a 16g with 660's, only sans FMIC (until it gets here) so i'll shoot you my settings if you're still hurtin then, or we can try to work through it

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ModeratoreclipzGSTJun-22-04 03:05 PM
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#10487, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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sounds like a boost leak...


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Hult250RJun-22-04 06:48 PM
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#10488, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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Originally posted by eclipzGST
sounds like a boost leak...


thats kinda what i was thinking.
I went out and checked my timing today and it was so far off it was off the timing marks on the cover so I set it to 5* btdc and all my knock disappeared. Im going to see if I can find any boost leaks and start tuning again probably tomorrow.
I wanna get this thing tuned so I can get it to the track and see what kind of numbers im running.


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I used to have a 420A...


'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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Hult250RJun-22-04 06:51 PM
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#10489, "RE: Tuned 660's and car runs worse than with 450's... WTF?"
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Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I think you have your lows and hi's set wrong on the SAFC. With my 550s my lows start at -16% and my highs start at -25%, but I am running a little rich right now.


Mine are lower now that I fixed my timing. Im gettting Closer!!!

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I used to have a 420A...


'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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