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Slo2gSep-24-07 05:26 PM
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#3440, "MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."


          

Well I got some tuning done and I thought I would post this just to get you guys opinions on it and so some people would have a map in the future for a BASE just to get it roughly started on stock injectors. NOBODY should just plug the values in and expect it to run good because every car is different and I still have some stuff to tune. Let me know what you guys think though. Mods on the engine are 8.8 compression wisecos .020, eagle rods, +1mm PEP oversized stainless valves, pt rockers and lifters, crower titainium retainers, crower springs, crane 12 cams, fidanza cam sprockets(no adjustment, zero'd out), 3 angle vale job, mild port, aem v2 intake, ebay 4-1 header downpipe, OEM cat(I know ), tsudo 2.5" catback and I think thats all that would affect it. It seems to just quit pulling at 5g. When the stock ecu was in control it would get pig rich but now I tuned it to be a little rich and it still just doesnt pull. If it doesnt fix it when I go spark I may have a problem.


  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-25-07 07:57 AM
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#3442, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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you may be getting detonatiopn and the ECU is retarding the timing. That would feel just the way your describing.

  

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Slo2gSep-25-07 09:21 AM
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#3443, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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but my afr is good and egts never go above 1430? It also did this with the factory ecu and with 93 octane? I don't know, it makes sense but what could I do to stop it?

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-25-07 11:11 AM
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#3444, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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If it did it with the factory ECU then what are you worried about? Could be something in your setup that is restrictive. Typically cams can cause this issue if they ar enot set right. Too small of turbo can also cause this.

  

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Slo2gSep-25-07 11:32 AM
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#3445, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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I am leaning toward restriction, I have a dirty/smashed air filter from a damn dog I hit and a factory cat. I will try changing them and see what happens.

  

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Slo2gSep-25-07 05:17 PM
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#3446, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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Just to make sure nothing is out of wack, here are a few screen shots of the values I have set...









Everything seem in order? Also, my afr while driving are fluctuating between 20 and 12, not 20 then 12 but it bounces around in that area. I can also feel the car "surge" when I am at a cruise and the wb is doing the changing. At idle I have it set at 13.x afr and its smooth but while driving its changing, with or with out autotune on?

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-26-07 09:25 AM
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#3447, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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Sep-26-07 09:26 AM by Star Turbo Talon



          

Most of that is all user defined. There is no right or wrong. Personally i dont use mapdot. I use tps enrichment, thats just my preference. That wont effect your problem though.

  

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Slo2gSep-26-07 10:01 AM
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#3448, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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Thing is with tps dot I cant get the overrun fuel cut to kick on, just because its a noisy signal.

  

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mreigleOct-14-07 02:15 AM
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#3460, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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Oct-14-07 02:17 AM by mreigle

          

Not to seem rude, but a turbo would be nice at 5K RPM. Your engine is already built for it.

  

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Slo2gOct-16-07 06:05 PM
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#3468, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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Just a little thing called greenbacks my friend is getting in the way, unless you want to donate I am broke as a joke right now.

  

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#3469, "RE: MSnS VE table and graph...what do you think..."
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Oct-17-07 08:51 AM by bullettdsm

          

Dunno if this helps, but here is mine from the 10.9 comp motor;



Damn it, too small, here's the link:

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6889889

P+P everything
Crower 2 cams
60mm TB
10.9 comp

^^^^^the important stuff

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  

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