ok, know that ive thought of a useful topic, i guess i have the first post....

i remember reading on asog or one of the neon boards about installing individual TBs on the 420a using (i think) motorcycle TBs. has anyone dont this on an eclipse? i saw a neon vid with this and it sounded like a freaking beast, and all the results seem to point to great gains in HP. can anyone shed some light on this project....i would imagine the price to benifit ratio would be pretty good, not to mention the show-off factor. what about fuel consumption...would this need to be altered takeing into consideration how rich our cars run stock?


i hope this is the style post expected in this section...if its not feel free to move it mods, im actually interested in responses on this.

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I had a quad TB setup off a bike that I was going to make work with the 2GNT but I sold it to Dino after I sold the car.


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the hahn neon runs a new intake manifold that looks like it does osmething similiar, might wanna check that out, maybe you can fab it to fit, www.hahnracecraft.com

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hmmm...hans website is down, damnit.

any other links anyone could provide would be great, i know some neon guys have done it, anyone have pics/writeups of this on an eclipse/talon? as i stated earlier, the 420as have tons of fuel, so concentrating on adding some air to the mix would be an ideal upgrade to "balance" things out. anyone have info on wether this would require fuel control?

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search on the neon board. this is something some of them do regulary

neons.org

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Here's the ASOG post...

http://bbs.asog.net/viewtopic.php?t=43093

^^^^THANK YOU!!!

i knew id seen that thread somwhere, but i couldnt remember where.

a big to you!!

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Im actually almost done my setup. it uses a stratus manifold and 99 GSXR tb's. Im doing it a little bit different than the neons, instead of welding and bolting the tbs to the manifold im going to use rubber couplings so i can adjust the runner lengths.

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My only concern with the quad throttle body set up is how is the MAP sensor going to be positioned? I know the guy working on it on the ASOG board has tapped all 4 throttle bodies and then connected them together, but will that give an accurate reading?

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Im working on it too, Im actually machining the whole assembly out of a block of aluminum on the CNC machine here at work complete with velocity stacks and all, right now all I have done is the throttle plates and the shaft for them, but I still need to o-ring the shaft to seal agains vacuum leaks. Its going to fit right on the lower manifold for now unless I come up with a different way.

You will definitely need to upgrade to #30 injectors and a warlbro pump, but that should be enough to get it running.

this setup wont really come alive till you bump up compression and add some nice cams to really make use of all the new found air coming in.

here is the writeup from the neon boards, its got some good info to get started, http://www.abdgraphics.com/iansite/ianthrottlebody2.htm

One of the main problems is room, as it is you will probably have to run a cowl type hood to give clearance for the air box/velocity stacks,etc..

But yes Jaded Silver from the ASOG board is much farther than me, he opted for the motorcycle TB's and at first was using ones with a dual throttle plate setup and was working on a way to open them partly to maintain low rpm torque and allow for stock like drivability.

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Another way to get the map sensor to work would be to have a vacuum block that is connected to all the individual runners post TB via hose of some sort. That way you will get some sort of equalzed pressure between the four runners. Then have the map sensor on the vacuum block.

Dino and I are using Kyle's old quad tbs and machining a adpater plate. Our biggest obstacles are looking liking idle air control and tps. I think the tps we can get working by making an adapter but getting idle air to work properly will be another story. I hope we can get it bolted up to my car by the end of March.

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