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EAGLE192Aug-04-09 10:11 PM
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#127050, "Can a starter seize?"


          

hi you guys

I was having some grounding issues with my 95 talon esi, and i was driving tonight and all of a sudden the car just shuts off, and all the lights go dim, and then build back up. I checked the fuse its still good and when i turn the key, it just doesn't turn over. i tried turning the crank, even pushing the car(3mph)and dumping the clutch. still nothing. So i wanted to know if a stater can seize up? i mean i was going around a tight turn and the oil is low..but i don't want to expect the worse..

But if the engine is seized,what are the ways that i could un-seize it?

thanks

  

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1slw97Aug-04-09 10:14 PM
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#127051, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Sounds like you are screwed. Only good way to fix it is with a rebuild.

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EAGLE192Aug-04-09 10:27 PM
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#127052, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Aug-04-09 10:37 PM by EAGLE192

          

yea,I am kinda thinking that but i got to take a look at it tomorrow. But the thing is it never had a knock...and the oil light never came on...and i just put a new oil pressure sending unit in. like the car slowly died, it didnt just lock up and make the wheel screech...if thats what happens..

see the thing is the all the light were always flickering when i was driving. i replace both terminals, the battery, and i had a code 44..for battery sensor temperature volts out of limit. to me i just finding if very rare that a starter what lock the almighty 420a up....but i may be wrong?

Could the alternator seize?

  

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420agreenvilleSCAug-04-09 10:36 PM
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#127053, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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take a 19mm socket or wrench, turn the crank pulley bolt by hand. If it turns, be happy. If not, be sad. Very sad. lol

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EAGLE192Aug-04-09 11:22 PM
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#127054, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Aug-04-09 11:32 PM by EAGLE192

          

lol. it doesnt turn...i was thinking it could be because the starter is seized..i mean i hear no clunks, or clicks...i was searching on neons.org and saw this http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=323058&hilit=seized+starter his starter was seized i dont know if he couldnt turn the engine manually though

  

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eclipse982nrRSTAug-05-09 04:51 AM
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#127057, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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If you cant turn the engine manually, your fucked.

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phr0st187Aug-05-09 10:44 AM
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#127071, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Well the simple way to check would be to take the 2 starter bolts out. Yank the starter out and then try to turn the engine manually. If it still doesn't turn you will probably need to rebuild at least the shortblock.

  

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#127073, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Originally posted by EAGLE192
i replace both terminals, the battery, and i had a code 44..for battery sensor temperature volts out of limit.

What year is your car? You might have the dreaded ECU failure if it's a 95.

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#127082, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Originally posted by phr0st187
Well the simple way to check would be to take the 2 starter bolts out. Yank the starter out and then try to turn the engine manually. If it still doesn't turn you will probably need to rebuild at least the shortblock.


x2. try that. if still no go, then sorry.

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phr0st187Aug-05-09 04:36 PM
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#127084, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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I'm not saying his PCM didn't fail but I'm pretty sure that won't cause the motor to not turn over manually. Could it be part of the problem yes, the whole problem no.

  

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#127086, "RE: Can a starter seize?"
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Originally posted by phr0st187Could it be part of the problem yes, the whole problem no.


yea cuz the ecu keeps the motor from turning over manually... HOW THE CRAP COULD IT BE PART OF THE PROBLEM

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