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JayWeezie88	Dec-14-06 06:52 PM
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#6578, "14b setup question"
Dec-14-06 06:53 PM by JayWeezie88

Ok so I picked up a 14b today that was rebuilt less than 1000 miles ago. Along with that the guy chipped in all the oil lines that connect to the 14b, 1g smic, exhaust manifold, o2 housing and new o2 sensor, all the ic pipes, and the oil return line.

My question is...Would i be able to simply bolt all of this up and run the 14b? I can do slight customization such as pipe cutting and such, but welding is out of the question as I dont have the tools/knowledge.

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RE: 14b setup question, kelvinb1, Dec-14-06 06:59 PM, #1

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kelvinb1	Dec-14-06 06:59 PM
Member since Apr 06th 2004 1543 posts,

#6579, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 0

is this going in a 2g 420a or a turbo 2g? if its the turbo 2g, you will need an install kit for it, if its the 420a, you will need alot more stuff.

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JayWeezie88	Dec-14-06 07:00 PM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6580, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 1

99GST...even if i have all of the intercooler pipes including the mini j pipe.

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eclipzGST	Dec-14-06 08:06 PM
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#6581, "RE: 14b setup question"
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Dec-14-06 08:22 PM by eclipzGST

It will bolt up without too much trouble. All you really need would be the j-pipe and the oil feed line.
You will have to:
1.)Drill out the holes a little on the turbo side of your stock oil return line. The ones on a 14b/16g are spaced a little wider.
2.)Attach oil feed line
3.)Reverse and/or bend the water lines as needed
4.)Make the j-pipe mate to your LICP.
It took me a good 8 hrs to do mine but I did it outside, in the dark, and also swapped injectors and fuel pump.
edit: If he gave you the stock 1G j-pipe, it won't work. In fact, you won't be able to use ANY of the IC piping. The j-pipe won't work because it comes off the turbo in the wrong direction. You need one that goes towards the pass side. If I were you, I's buy an install kit. A couple different vendors have them for around $200.

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hookduphatch	Dec-15-06 05:37 AM
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#6582, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 3

i have the j-pipe you need. let me know if you want it.

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JayWeezie88	Dec-15-06 07:29 AM
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#6583, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 3

Originally posted by eclipzGST
It will bolt up without too much trouble. All you really need would be the j-pipe and the oil feed line. You will have to: 1.)Drill out the holes a little on the turbo side of your stock oil return line. The ones on a 14b/16g are spaced a little wider. 2.)Attach oil feed line 3.)Reverse and/or bend the water lines as needed 4.)Make the j-pipe mate to your LICP. It took me a good 8 hrs to do mine but I did it outside, in the dark, and also swapped injectors and fuel pump. edit: If he gave you the stock 1G j-pipe, it won't work. In fact, you won't be able to use ANY of the IC piping. The j-pipe won't work because it comes off the turbo in the wrong direction. You need one that goes towards the pass side. If I were you, I's buy an install kit. A couple different vendors have them for around $200.

Sorry if im getting you guys frustrated...

But..
1.) He gave me the 14b oil return line from his car (1g)
2.) All of the lines are attached to the turbo already besides the return line
3.) I can understand bending the lines a bit thats not a problem
4.) The ic piping he gave me is off of the 1g

If this is redundant just ignore it and tell me to shutup and buy a install kit / j-pipe lol

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hookduphatch	Dec-15-06 07:36 AM
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#6584, "RE: 14b setup question"
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shut up and buy an install kit/ j-pipe. you don't want to use the stock oil lines for this install. just get a kit. and buy my j-pipe. i'll hook you up as it is extra and i don't really need it.

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JayWeezie88	Dec-15-06 07:37 AM
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#6585, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 6

lol Point taken.

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eclipzGST	Dec-15-06 12:48 PM
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#6586, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 7

Buy his J-pipe and you can get the SS oil feed line and gasket from RRE.
You won't need anything else. You won't need or be able to use the IC piping or SMIC. You will want to get an adapter and use the 1G BOV if he included that. Or get another. The plastic stock 2g one sucks.

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JayWeezie88	Dec-15-06 05:38 PM
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#6587, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 8

Yeah I have the 1g bov too...So j-pipe (in the process) and new oil feed line.

And voila....14b powered?

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eclipzGST	Dec-15-06 06:15 PM
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#6588, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 9

pretty much yeah...
There's always little stuff you won't know you needed till you have evrything apart though.
Also, try to scrounge up an extra turbo/manifold bolt. Stock setup has 3 bolts and a stud. Just replace the stud with a bolt.
I would start SOAKING eveything in PB Blaster as much as you can as early as possible before you think about cracking a bolt loose. I'd also soak it and let in set overnight before you do it too.

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Originally posted by Avenger
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JayWeezie88	Dec-15-06 06:39 PM
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#6589, "RE: 14b setup question"
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Dec-15-06 06:40 PM by JayWeezie88

I have all the bolts too as the turbo came with the manifold..and o2 housing...but I've researched that the 2g o2 housing flows better so ill swap that out.

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hookduphatch	Dec-15-06 07:10 PM
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#6590, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 11

lol. i also have a evo 3 o2 housing and exhaust manifold that will really be a lot better than the pieces you now have.

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JayWeezie88	Dec-15-06 09:29 PM
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#6591, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 12

lol...if I post I also have a whopper with cheese will you say you have a double whopper with cheese for sale?

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hookduphatch	Dec-15-06 09:50 PM
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#6592, "RE: 14b setup question"
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nope. in all honesty i only have basically those three things right now. oh, and a boost gauge. lol.

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hookduphatch	Dec-15-06 11:14 PM
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#6593, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 14

homey is the proud new owner of a j-pipe, evo3 manifold, and evo3 o2 housing.

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JayWeezie88	Dec-16-06 02:55 PM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6594, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 15

lol Roger that

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JayWeezie88	Feb-26-07 06:09 PM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6595, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 16
Feb-26-07 06:11 PM by JayWeezie88

Well...

I'm now 14b powered

Current Mods list:
14b
Dejon Intake
K&N FIPK
Tanabe Downpipe
SBR Test Pipe (2.5")
Tanabe SRM Cat-Back
1g BOV
Dave Brode UICP
Turbo XS Boost Controller
Apexi TT
Triple A-pillar gauge pod
Autometer phantom gauges (Boost(w/ Vacumn),Oil Pres., EGT)

Soon to be:
EVO 3 (Manifold & O2 Housing)(In the mail)
Walbro 255 fuel pump (In Garage)
Aeromotive AFPR
650 injectors
Apexi NEO or SAFCII
And some tuning!

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eclipzGST	Feb-26-07 07:56 PM
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#6596, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 17

Damn, it took me a few hours to do mine plus some other stuff. 2 MONTHS is WAY unacceptable

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'06 Wicked White EVO IX

Originally posted by Avenger
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JayWeezie88	Feb-26-07 08:00 PM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6597, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 18

lol It didn't take me 2 months.

I didn't start it it until like 2 weeks ago.

It only took me like a week and a half maybe. (ONLY lol)

Most of that was just waiting for parts, and trying to find a day/night were it wasn't -10 outside. (You know its not fun working in a garage where the only source of heat is the work light)

As for the T25. Sheard shaft lol.
Sooo thats where all the oil was.

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eclipzGST	Feb-26-07 08:35 PM
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#6598, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 19

Well, at least it's done and I'm sure it pulls a lot nicer.
Hey I just noticed what your post count was. Don't ever post again so it stays that way forever.

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Originally posted by Avenger
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bullettdsm	Feb-27-07 10:45 AM
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#6599, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 19

Originally posted by JayWeezie88
(You know its not fun working in a garage where the only source of heat is the work light)

Damn, I remember those days! Literally putting your hands inside the light cage to get them to warm up enough to grab a wrench. Sheeiite!

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JayWeezie88	Feb-27-07 11:24 AM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6600, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 21

lol I do the exact same thing.

I have a little heater too but it doesnt do any good when the garage door is open.

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kain_99gs	Mar-11-07 08:20 AM
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#6601, "RE: 14b setup question"
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At least you sissy bitches have a garage.

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JayWeezie88	Mar-11-07 05:36 PM
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#6602, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 23

lol...I'd rather lay my back on cold pavement then cement.

And like I said before its not much of a difference when the garage door is open b/c all the shit in the garage wont let the car pull in all the way.

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totaleclipse3	Mar-14-07 06:01 AM
Member since Oct 18th 2006 27 posts,

#6603, "RE: 14b setup question"
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TRUST me it is such a pain to deal with the 14b, I really wouldnt recomend it.

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JayWeezie88	Mar-15-07 06:58 AM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6604, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 25

Well its already in my car. And the only realy problem I'm having with it is boost creep.

Other than that its great.

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eclipzGST	Mar-15-07 10:27 AM
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#6605, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 25

Originally posted by totaleclipse3
TRUST me it is such a pain to deal with the 14b, I really wouldnt recomend it.

Well, later on he can bolt on a 16g and most of the work is already done.

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-Tony <--- NOT asian.
'06 Wicked White EVO IX

Originally posted by Avenger
When I raise the BS flag ... it's a really big fucking flag and I raise it really fucking high too.

"Never whistle while your pissing." ~The illuminatus Trilogy

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JayWeezie88	Mar-15-07 10:38 AM
Member since Jul 08th 2005 130 posts,

#6606, "RE: 14b setup question"
In response to Reply # 27

Or 20g

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97eclipse97	Mar-15-07 11:25 AM
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#6607, "RE: 14b setup question"
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Mar-15-07 11:27 AM by 97eclipse97

Originally posted by totaleclipse3
TRUST me it is such a pain to deal with the 14b, I really wouldnt recomend it.

What's wrong with a 14b? It really is a great little turbo. While a 16g makes for a better street turbo in most cases (where the proper supporting mods are in place), a 14b is a huge step up from the t25, and you can find them for almost nothing. A 16g is not that different from a 14b, it just has a larger compressor wheel and a 7cm exhuast housing vs a 6cm for the 14b. They have been proven to make some good power on near stock cars. Hate on the t25 all you want (it truly does suck after all) but at least give a little love to the 14b!

Edit: And as Tony said, once a 14b is installed, all you have to do is unbolt the turbo (without breaking too many bolts

) and water/oil lines, and then bolt in the 16g and lines. Easy job!

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twack	Dec-08-07 12:47 PM
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#6608, "RE: 14b setup question"
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just need a 2g kit

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