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senseiturtleDec-19-03 07:21 PM
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#65012, "RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?"
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 Dec-19-03 07:25 PM by senseiturtle

          

Originally posted by xtrickedeclipsex
OH!!! and for the cool guy who said 10 hp is sooo hard, you need some shi* like CAMS to make 10 whp...man...ill prove you wrong now... go on importtuner.com, search under power pages of a n/a eclipse...there they have 2 power pages...one of the pages has a dyno test of AEM adj. cam gear, and a 50 shot....off the cam gears alone he got 9 WHP...lmao, there you go, now you look stupid..after the 50 shot he had 165 WHP... never mind here is the link jsut to show you http://www.importtuner.com/events/0204it_ppeclipse/index.html 165 WHP, of a 50 shot and cam gears...lol...dyno proven...thats to funny... i already have that...now think of all the other mods i have on that dyno...and ull be thinken my numbers.. thank you pshhhh



Congradulations, you have no clue what you're talking about.

1- I said, you need cams or something more drastic to actually see 10whp from a single mod. Adjusting your timing with cam gears is a more drastic measure, and hence, qualifies.

2- I'll honestly admit, I'm not sure if nitrous shots are wheel-measured or crank-measured, or if that varies between the different products. Regardless, without the nitrous shot, that car will still only dyno 125 HP or less.

3- Wait... what's nitrous again ? oh... a POWER ADDER. We're talking about building a 200whp engine, without those.


Look guys. People have problems getting VW 12v VR6 engines over 200 WHP without fully rebuilding the motor, additional displacement, or some kind of power adder... and that only requires an additional 40 whp from a typical stock dyno. NA is a very expensive, very hard proposition. Don't say " OH that's cause the VR6 is worthless..." its not. Dalhback has one with 950whp. EP tuning's runs 11's. NA, this engine, with 2 more cylinders and 4 less valves, can put a golf deep into the 13's.


The only reason I bring up the previous example, is to show you that putting an NA 4-cyl, that starts with 120WHP on a good day, into the 200WHP without boost or nitrous can only be done by someone with an extremely deep pocketbook and lots of experience. Many of the more experienced 2gnt owners have already posted the problems with accomplishing this. Its a noble goal, and I hope to see several of you do it, but there's no way in hell its as easy as trickedeclipse made it seem.

Want an easier 200whp ? Boost or spray. Plain and simple.

  
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What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor? [View all] , daniel992gnt, Dec-13-03 08:55 AM
  RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, MotoFool, Dec-13-03 11:11 AM, #1
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, majicalevil, Dec-13-03 05:35 PM, #2
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, eclipse_99rs, Dec-13-03 05:57 PM, #3
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, FlyinEsi, Dec-14-03 08:13 AM, #4
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-14-03 11:52 AM, #5
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-15-03 05:14 AM, #6
                     RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-15-03 12:41 PM, #7
                          RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamXtremeRS, Dec-15-03 12:54 PM, #8
                               RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-16-03 04:11 AM, #9
                                    RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-16-03 07:03 AM, #10
                                         RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-16-03 07:28 AM, #11
                                              RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-16-03 11:11 AM, #12
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-16-03 11:27 AM, #13
                                                        RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-16-03 11:42 AM, #14
                                                             RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-16-03 12:00 PM, #15
                                                                  RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, DSMkarz, Dec-16-03 05:16 PM, #16
                                                                       RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Teametx, Dec-16-03 05:39 PM, #17
                                                                       RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, MotoFool, Dec-16-03 06:33 PM, #18
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-16-03 08:39 PM, #19
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, EclipseRS-T, Dec-16-03 09:15 PM, #20
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-16-03 09:30 PM, #21
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, EclipseRS-T, Dec-16-03 09:40 PM, #22
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-17-03 04:58 AM, #23
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-17-03 05:14 AM, #25
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Collente, Dec-17-03 09:25 AM, #27
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, widebodied, Dec-18-03 05:23 PM, #31
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-17-03 05:10 AM, #24
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-17-03 09:12 AM, #26
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-17-03 03:52 PM, #28
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtreme96gs, Dec-18-03 03:48 PM, #29
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, tonyz007, Dec-19-03 06:05 AM, #38
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, widebodied, Dec-18-03 05:21 PM, #30
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-18-03 09:53 PM, #32
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, MotoFool, Dec-18-03 10:15 PM, #33
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, MotoFool, Dec-18-03 10:21 PM, #34
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, widebodied, Dec-19-03 01:42 AM, #35
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-19-03 04:14 AM, #36
                     RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, senseiturtle, Dec-19-03 05:13 AM, #37
                          RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-19-03 06:33 AM, #39
                          RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Skrilla, Dec-19-03 10:56 AM, #40
                               RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-19-03 12:01 PM, #41
                                    RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Skrilla, Dec-19-03 01:06 PM, #42
                                         RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-19-03 03:35 PM, #43
                                              RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-19-03 03:40 PM, #44
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, djtrickee, Dec-19-03 03:53 PM, #45
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamXtremeRS, Dec-19-03 04:23 PM, #46
                                                        RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-19-03 06:36 PM, #47
                                                             RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Dec-20-03 06:34 PM, #52
                                                             RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Blmet, Dec-22-03 09:21 PM, #61
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, senseiturtle, Dec-19-03 07:21 PM #48
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, steve0677, Dec-19-03 08:49 PM, #49
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-20-03 05:34 PM, #51
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, bzoss, Jan-09-05 10:07 AM, #100
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, VendorAFX_Manufacturing, Dec-20-03 03:54 AM, #50
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, eclipse_99rs, Dec-20-03 06:49 PM, #53
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-21-03 01:34 PM, #54
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, CopperEclipse96, Dec-21-03 02:25 PM, #56
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, DSMkarz, Dec-21-03 05:14 PM, #57
                     RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-23-03 01:52 PM, #66
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, 95redesi, Dec-21-03 02:16 PM, #55
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-22-03 05:35 AM, #58
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtreme96gs, Dec-22-03 01:09 PM, #59
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, xtrickedeclipsex, Dec-22-03 02:30 PM, #60
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-23-03 05:10 AM, #62
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Alucard_1995, Dec-23-03 09:47 AM, #63
                     RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Nitrous_RS1997, Dec-23-03 12:11 PM, #64
                          RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Amish_Eclipse, Dec-23-03 01:04 PM, #65
                               RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, CopperEclipse96, Dec-23-03 02:00 PM, #67
                                    RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Amish_Eclipse, Dec-23-03 03:28 PM, #68
                                    RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, senseiturtle, Dec-23-03 03:38 PM, #69
                                    RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-23-03 06:09 PM, #70
                                         RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, luvrandfighter, Dec-24-03 01:47 AM, #71
                                              RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-24-03 05:40 AM, #72
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, senseiturtle, Dec-24-03 06:01 AM, #73
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-24-03 06:17 AM, #74
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, daniel992gnt, Dec-24-03 06:55 AM, #75
                                                        RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Nitrous_RS1997, Dec-24-03 09:29 AM, #76
                                                             RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, 95redesi, Dec-24-03 10:39 AM, #77
                                                                  RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-24-03 11:55 AM, #79
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Skrilla, Dec-24-03 11:30 AM, #78
                                                        RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, MotoFool, Dec-24-03 01:08 PM, #80
                                                             RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, senseiturtle, Dec-26-03 11:07 AM, #81
                                                                  RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, MotoFool, Dec-28-03 02:12 AM, #82
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, WheatKing, Dec-29-03 04:39 AM, #83
RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, darosa4561, Dec-29-03 06:22 AM, #84
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, WheatKing, Dec-29-03 07:01 AM, #85
      RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-29-03 07:05 AM, #86
           RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamDR1665, Dec-29-03 10:10 AM, #87
                RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamAvenger, Dec-29-03 11:02 AM, #88
                     RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Skrilla, Dec-29-03 01:38 PM, #89
                          RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamAvenger, Dec-29-03 03:00 PM, #90
                               RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Dec-29-03 04:27 PM, #91
                                    RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-29-03 07:27 PM, #92
                                         RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, richlo65, Jan-07-05 04:04 PM, #93
                                              RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, AdministratorCODE4, Jan-07-05 06:17 PM, #94
                                              RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, 420a2ner, Jan-07-05 06:49 PM, #95
                                                   RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, hollow, Jan-07-05 06:55 PM, #96
                                                        RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, 420a2ner, Jan-07-05 08:50 PM, #97
                                                             RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, BlueMoonEclipse, Jan-08-05 07:08 PM, #98
                                                                  RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Blizare, Jan-08-05 08:05 PM, #99
                                                                       RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, Ryan_Hes, Jan-09-05 02:15 PM, #101
                                                                            RE: What I need to get 200 to 220whp all motor?, turbo8u, Jan-09-05 02:28 PM, #102

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