I'm usually very cool with the new people around here, often being told I'm some sort of "no0b's hero" or something for answering teh dumbest of questions and all that without talking shit, but I have to say xtrickedeclipsex, that for someone who has less than 50 posts here, you really have no idea the type of people you are contradicting.

The people who you are arguing with are not hoping you fail, and they are as far away from "haters" as you can get in the DSM community. They are dyed-in-the-wool tuners who know their shit. These guys have done things with and seen things in 420As that I bet even the engineers who designed them hadn't.

I have rebuilt my bottom end by hand and invested over $2000 in my engine so far. I would be lucky to see 165hp at the crank after some dyno time. To get close enough to even see 220hp at the crank (I still think 230 is possible and it is my goal for this August at the shootout.) I am going to be spending close to another $4000 in headwork and supporting mods like fuel management and ignition adjustment. It is a well-documented fact that any 420a approaching the 200hp mark is going to be pushing the limits of daily driveability. Check the video from the DSM shootout last year and listen to how Micheal's car sounds at idle. If your car is anywhere close to the level of tune that his engine is, you would be in almost complete agreement with everything said in this thread.

We are all here to support you in your goal of making this kind of power, but this is a very different community from DSMtooners, and I'll tell you that playing the bullshit card at this point is doing you and your reputation more harm than good. You should stick around. If you are as close as you say you are to the 200whp mark, we want to see it, but we're not the lot to accept some sketchy, half-assed dyno slip posted at some hole-in-the-wall webpage. You want the respect here, you're going to need to post seriously accurate specifications and reliable documentation of your claims, especially when making claims of anything regarding the 420a. You're in the home of the 420a tuner. We know our shit and we can tell the difference between overzealous enthusiasm and the real deal. Just make an effort to accept other members' input and regardless of whether you agree or not, show others the level of respect you want to be shown, even if you don't feel you're being treated the same. The haters will back off and you'll find that the best of the best will remain true.

Now, all this bullshit aside, you are going to make the shootout in Norwalk next summer aren't you? If you are seriously pursuing the all-motor crown, there are a number of people who will be right there cheering you on.

Lata foo.