nope no lie, he isn't just one of those "friends" who i barely know...he is a very good friend of mine and doesn't have anything extra done to his car...they are lighter than us and do have 160hp stock...if a 5speed Si is running 16.2's...either they can't drive or the car is messed up...granted i hate civics as much as the rest of us here...but i did witness the 15.1 run....

'99 RS
gone, never forgotten

'03 BMW 330i 5speed

'00 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4.7