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FlyinEsiApr-21-09 09:18 AM
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#8359, "Head coming off...what else should I do"
Jun-06-05 09:46 AM by FlyinEsi



          

I should have my new headgasket and radiator here today or tomorrow. I talked to my dad (mechanic of 30 years) and he told me I might as well change out my timing belt (62K on the clock) and water pump. Okay, I can take care of that, and he also told me I should have my head checked for cracks and to make sure the whole valve train is all in good working condition, especially to make sure the valves are "seated"??? He says if I've been running lean I could have some problems there.

While I have the head off getting decked, is there anything else I might as well do to it now? I was thinking about getting like a 3 angle valve job, port and polish, along with the usual racing equipment in the head (new springs, retainers?) etc.

Anything I really SHOULD do to the head while it is off and at a qualified shop?

Hopefully I will have the car taken apart this weekend, or early next week, and fixed in the next couple weeks.

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TeamJeff_99gsJun-06-05 10:01 AM
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#8360, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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The head will be fine. Just make sure there is no warping from the overheating.

If you want a built head now, go for it. Titanium retainers, springs, cams, etc. It really isn't worth it though at this point and will cost a lot more money. You can do whatever you want though if you want to spend the cash.

  

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FlyinEsiJun-06-05 10:03 AM
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#8361, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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Originally posted by Jeff_99gs
The head will be fine. Just make sure there is no warping from the overheating. If you want a built head now, go for it. Titanium retainers, springs, cams, etc. It really isn't worth it though at this point and will cost a lot more money. You can do whatever you want though if you want to spend the cash.



What about just doing a port and polish on the head while it is there? Is that worth it, or does our head flow enough air as is?

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420a-TnthewerksJun-06-05 10:02 AM
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#8362, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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I would at least get a 3 or 5 angle valve job while it's there. The rest, well, depends on your budget.

  

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FlyinEsiJun-06-05 10:07 AM
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Okay, I do not ever plan on running 9K RPMS on my head, so would titanium springs and retainers even be worth it whatsoever? or stock should cut it?

Angled valve job? Really what is this? Does it just help increase airflow?

My budget I am somewhat putting aside, I just want the car to run right, and if I can get a little performance out at the same time, I might as well.

I was also thinking about picking up a set of FP272 cams later this summer, but I might just do it now. Adv/Dis of the 272 cams????

All advice and knowledge sharing is greatly appreciated. Help me learn more about my car!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

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slowmitsuJun-06-05 11:10 AM
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#8364, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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Jun-06-05 11:12 AM by slowmitsu



          

Originally posted by FlyinEsi
Okay, I do not ever plan on running 9K RPMS on my head, so would titanium springs and retainers even be worth it whatsoever? or stock should cut it? Angled valve job? Really what is this? Does it just help increase airflow? My budget I am somewhat putting aside, I just want the car to run right, and if I can get a little performance out at the same time, I might as well. I was also thinking about picking up a set of FP272 cams later this summer, but I might just do it now. Adv/Dis of the 272 cams???? All advice and knowledge sharing is greatly appreciated. Help me learn more about my car!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

A bunch of no's. Unless you're willing to dump a few large into getting the head built then there really isn't a huge point in only doing a few little things here and there to it. Cams will help though but that's not rocket science since you can have the head on the car while changing them obviously. I've seen you post about down time concerns and getting your head built will only add to that. You've got plenty of other places to spend money before you start ripping the head apart..(i.e. your bottom end, better fuel setup, bigger turbo, etc).

  

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BigBaldJun-06-05 11:15 AM
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#8365, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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Port and polish is a waste of time on any turbo that flows less then 60lbs/min. For you, I would get either a set of cams and/or a sheet metal intake manifold. You will see great improvements performance mods from either of those mods. You don't need springs, retainers or valves unless something is wrong with yours or you plan on shifting past 8k.

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FlyinEsiJun-06-05 12:19 PM
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#8366, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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Originally posted by BigBald
Port and polish is a waste of time on any turbo that flows less then 60lbs/min. For you, I would get either a set of cams and/or a sheet metal intake manifold. You will see great improvements performance mods from either of those mods. You don't need springs, retainers or valves unless something is wrong with yours or you plan on shifting past 8k.


Cool, thanks Jerrome.

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TeamJeff_99gsJun-06-05 06:22 PM
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#8367, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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And cams are worthless without shifting pass 7k as well. Just stick with the stock head.

  

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FlyinEsiJun-07-05 04:08 AM
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#8368, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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Originally posted by Jeff_99gs
And cams are worthless without shifting pass 7k as well. Just stick with the stock head.


Done, done, done, done and done. Stock head it is. Just going to have him look through it to make sure it all looks okay, then deck it.

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help!

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BigBaldJun-07-05 05:34 AM
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#8369, "RE: Head coming off...what else should I do"
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Jun-07-05 05:47 AM by BigBald



          

Originally posted by Jeff_99gs
And cams are worthless without shifting pass 7k as well. Just stick with the stock head.



There are logs and Dynos that prove severely otherwise......are you serious? I can see a sheet metal arguement but def not cams.

Edit: This is how worthless Cams are

Stock vs 272's Dyno
http://www.automotosports.com/Stock%20VS%20HKS%20272%20272.JP G

Stock vs 264's Dyno
http://www.automotosports.com/Stock%20VS%20HKS%20264%20264.JP G

The Whole Test:
http://www.automotosports.com/cam_test.asp

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