For quite some time here I have seen many people come out and say that they are going to break the 200whp with all motor, bla, bla. For the most part they are laughed at and told turbo or juice it up. Well, I am here to say that you guys are right. Look at my mod list, which is still lacking. I have done EVERYTHING short of the juice or turbo. I have to say that I would have loved to get more out of the car given that I poored so much money, time, and effort into it. But the facts are, our cars just don't make power all motor. We need the forced induction to make power.
So, here they are, the dyno results. Unfortunately, I can't upload the picture for some reason right now, but anyhow.

126 ft-lbs of torque was max torque
135 whp was max horsepower

These numbers are extremely disapointing. Especially considering that before the rebuild, I was making about 20 hp less than I am now. And before I tuned the car on the dyno, I was making just as much as before. But once I tuned the fuel, etc. I gained the 20 hp that I have more than before now.

This is more or less to give all those all motors heads some down to earth advice. If you want to make a lot of power, turbo. That is the most cost effective way to make big power. If you add up the cost to all those parts I bought, they way more than pay for the cost of a turbo upgrade.

I am going to try and get the dyno page to post shortly. Till then, maybe you all have some tuning comments for me to help me get a bit more out of the beast. And don't worry, the juice is coming.. ...

Oh, and she detonates like a screemin' whore. I have to get some retard control on her soon.

Built block.
Refinished head.
Tuned suspension.
TURBO.

Something isn't tuned right with your setup.
What do your 02 voltages look like? Bad 02 sensor? Have both of them hooked up? Is your timing correct? compression #'s?
With basic bolt-ons and cam gears compact car Mag made 175whp on the dyno.

Somethings not right.


Nick
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Originally posted by Collente
Something isn't tuned right with your setup. What do your 02 voltages look like? Bad 02 sensor? Have both of them hooked up? Is your timing correct? compression #'s? With basic bolt-ons and cam gears compact car Mag made 175whp on the dyno. Somethings not right. Nick 97RS THX KAPTAIN MYKE FOR HOSTING! www.kaptainmyke.com

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damn you should be making like 160+ with that shit. Maybe you need a different set of cams .

Sounds about right to me. Don't know why you got bigger injectors though. Probably wouldn't even max out the stockers. Though it's definitely not tuned to it's maximum potential. The cams are pretty mild as well. For NA you'd need something much more aggressive. What'd you set the cam gears to as well? There is NO WAY you should be detonating on 10.5:1 compression so there is something wrong right there (unless you're using 87 octane).

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Yeah there's something wrong with your set up. You are running premium gas right?

At 10.5:1 you shouldn't be detonation. Are you sure the physical timing is correct? Any check engine codes?

What air fuel ratio are you tuning to on the dyno?



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That is what I can't figure out. I had the deck shaved, but I don't know exactly how much the machine shop took off... maybe a little more than I wanted... or the pistons could actually be the 12.5:1 instead of the 10.5:1 I ordered. From experience and what I have heard on this forum, Howell's rep is not so good with everybody... but that is a different thread. Anyhow, I am pretty sure that it is detonation.
I have to agree with the fuel injectors comment as well. I had to lean the crap out of my fuel mix to get it where I wanted it. I have it at -32% on the safc II controller. LOL...
But hey, it is right on the money now, also I am going to be running nitrous soon, so I will not have to worry about going lean when I juice 'er up.
I have the cams set at advance 2 degrees on the intake and retard 2 degrees on the exhaust. I would have played with them more, but when I did that last adjustment on them I gained a whole .4 Hp on the Dyno when I was tuning the fuel and cam gears, so I left them alone.

And for whoever said my cams are not agressive, they are a decently agressive cam. I would still like to drive this thing daily, LOL.


I was hoping for that number you were all putting out there, the magic 175whp. And I have to say that I am pretty damn dissapointed. I won't rule out the fact that I may not have everything tuned just perfect, but I will say that there is no way in hell I am going to get another 40whp from my shitty tuning job.
Before I tuned everything I was at like 116whp. I gained a solid 20whp from my tuning job. In some parts of the power curve I gained a total of about 27whp. So I think I did a good job tuning. The most I think I can pull out of her is MAYBE another 3-4whp... MAYBE, but I doubt it.

Anyhow, if any of you have any tips I am open for sudgestions.

I am getting a timing retard module to hook up to my ignition to hopefully get a few more whp, maybe break 140whp lol, and get rid of that damn knocking.

Thanks for the comments, keep 'em coming!

Built block.
Refinished head.
Tuned suspension.
TURBO.

Oh, I am tuning to about 13 for the fuel on the dyno, and yes, I have a CEL. For many things actually... my cars computer hates all these mods. Which brings me to a bitching point... No one out there makes after markey computers for the 98 and up GS... so I am stuck with this one which is probably robbing me of some power, and keeping my rev limit at 7200. With as wide as my power band is, I would like to be shifting around 7500-7700, but my damn limiter kicks in. That and I still cant go faster than 125mph, cuz my computer cuts my fuel out...

and I do run 93octane gas. all the time... shell or chevron only! (got stock in 'em)
Oh yea, everyone, only use chevron gas... it is the best ever... it makes your car go faster.... j/k

Built block.
Refinished head.
Tuned suspension.
TURBO.