#3906, "Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny"
good news everyone. i found a way for us 95 oddballs to use a 96 and up tranny without a lot of rewiring. for those that didn't know... 95's have a dual sensor setup on the right front corner(not the speed sensors) and the 96+ have a single sensor. This is very experimental still cuz i've only had it like this for about 200 miles. here it is tho.. i have a switched wire hooked up the the nuetral switch wire (black with yellow stripe i believe) to connect it to a ground. this is what allows it to start. then i have the old two sensors plugged in still and just free floppin and nothing is connected to the single plug on the tranny. the reason i have a switch on the nuetral wire is if you try and drive with it, it with kick you right out of gear and only let you stay in gear till about 5-10mph. It works and its kinda joinkity... but it works and works really good, no slipping of gears, smooth shifts, and same feel as before.
1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 ) 10.3mm OBX wires NGK Plugs 18" Konig Elan 225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves
#3913, "RE: Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny" In response to Reply # 0
it's been bout three weeks now since i did this, and there's absolutely no probs still... so if anyone thinks that i might still have a prob down the road let me know... thanx
1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 ) 10.3mm OBX wires NGK Plugs 18" Konig Elan 225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves
#3935, "RE: Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny" In response to Reply # 0
WEll... i notice no one really cares about this one. but it's been 1,100 miles now and works strong as ever. so it works, and just to let the ppl who said it couldn't be done know... it works very well.
1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 ) 10.3mm OBX wires NGK Plugs 18" Konig Elan 225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves
#3943, "RE: Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny" In response to Reply # 2
Nice to have updates, good job on being resourceful and making something work. A few questions, do you have ABS and if so, have you had any problems with it now that you don't have a speed sensor? And what is 'jockity' LOL!
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#3946, "RE: Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny" In response to Reply # 3
ok you suffered long enought here's my write up about this
Originally posted by Alain95i4 on the ASOG board november 20 2005
as many of you already know we are dealing with 3 versions of the same basic tranny with our cars 1995 was the first year of the avenger/sebring and also the last year that chrysler used the first version of the A604 that version had 2 separate switchs on the side of the tranny one was called the park/neutral position the other was called transmission range
1996 was the introduction of the version 2 of the a604 with a new TCM and a new switch module on top of the tranny that module replaced the 2 previous switchs plus the backup light relay and added the introduction of a thermal sensor that version of the tranny was in production up to 1998
1999 was the introduction of another connector but the pinout was the same as the 96-98 the shape was different, square with larger flat pins instead of slim with round pins like 96-98
it's possible to swap a 96 + transmission within a 95 car I'm currently running with success a 2003 Pt Cruiser Turbo a604 with my swapped i4 2.4 engine, my 1995 tcm is controlling the tranny however Sandman also tried it with his 1995 v6 and had numerous problems
here's how I did my rewiring
there are 2 connectors 1 is white 1 is black I don't have my old tranny near me so I don't remember which one is which the way those switchs work inside is like 2 separate switch controlled at the same time there are 3 wires per switch when the switch is active the signal from wire 1 is send to wire 3 while the signal on wire 2 is going to ground
on the white conector wire 1 and 3 are used to drive the signal to activate the backup light relay we don't need the relay anymore you will leave those 2 wire unconnected !
on the black connector now no single position of the new 10 pin connector has the same logic table has the old switch I found out that we could just connect them together and the TCM will be happy like this , when it will get a signal from the starting key to look if the car is in park/neutral position it will work
wire 2 of the white connector goes to T3 sense which is pin 8 wire 2 of the black connector goes to T41 sense which is pin 10
on the backup light relay , which is the fourth relay on the firewall, most one on the right, you will have 3 red wires 2 are tied to the same pins those wires are the one sending the 12v to the backup light 1 is alone that wire is the incoming 12V you will need to cut those 3 wires and extend them to the 10 pin connector you could use a single wire connected to the 2 backup light wires there's no need to pulled 3 wires there
it's not showing on my picture of the connector but pin 1 and 6 are for the backup light when the tranny is in reverse that connection is closed you will connect the 2 wires from the relay to those 2 pins by doing so you are eliminating the need of the backup relay and you car will have backup light working like a 96-+
that's about it I drove 3000 miles so far wired like this not a single problem yet
#3952, "RE: Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny" In response to Reply # 3
actually i don't have abs (kinda like that i don't) so i dont know about any complications with that. but 'joinkity' is just something meaning kinda odd or 'backyard' way of doin it.
...and alain, why do you insist on poppin up and being a prick. this site is here for ppl that have the knowledge to share and ppl that want to know the knowledge. so poor taste on your account.
1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 ) 10.3mm OBX wires NGK Plugs 18" Konig Elan 225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves
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#4589, "RE: Late Breaking News... 95's can use a 96+ auto tranny" In response to Reply # 7
Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC i'm sure you realize you're bumping 4yr old threads.... right?
oh yeah i know im bumping old ass threads... see i cant find any info on this. and so far the only info i am finding is hella old! so maybe somebody can still help me?