#95263, "RE: choice of turbo" In response to Reply # 0
the 16g is what comes in the kit I believe (someone else can correct me if Im wrong) why are you bent on the T3? The 16g is a good strong turbo, it'l get you in the 8 to 14psi range real easy. If you're going to stay under 8 psi I'd suggest the 14b as it should spool up a little quicker. What are your ultimate goals and how modded is your engine?
P.S. the only thing to watch out for on the 14b is that the turbine housings like to crack and most of them on ebay are already cracked.
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#95273, "RE: choice of turbo" In response to Reply # 1
Originally posted by Keith2172 What are your ultimate goals and how modded is your engine?
well at first I wanted to stay under 8 psi cause my engine is crap and will most likely won't support more boost....it's all stock except for some bolt ons bullshit. Now, I just found a bottom end on the SALE/WANTED section and I will probably use it with my top end and buy a rebuild kit from howell ,so I might actually want to go around 15 PSI. Will a 16g take me there ?
thx
-Ivan
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#95276, "RE: choice of turbo" In response to Reply # 3
I'm having a hard time following what you are asking.
The 16g that comes with the hahn kit and goes with the hahn manifold is a t3 flange. I am not really familiar with the hahn kit but I believe it is a super 16g and does have the same flange as the mitsubishi 16g and 14b.
mitsu 16g and 14b fits one flange (mitsubishi)
Hahn 16g fits another flange (T3 flange), you also have the option of the hahn 20g, which is pretty nasty from what I've heard on the boards here.
If you have a hahn manifold, then you can bolt a T3 up to it even though I wouldn't advise it seeing that certain members (bumpintalon) have had problems by bolting up turbos that were not supplied with the hahn kit.
#95277, "RE: choice of turbo" In response to Reply # 4
Originally posted by ScreaminE I'm having a hard time following what you are asking. The 16g that comes with the hahn kit and goes with the hahn manifold is a t3 flange. I am not really familiar with the hahn kit but I believe it is a super 16g and does have the same flange as the mitsubishi 16g and 14b. mitsu 16g and 14b fits one flange (mitsubishi) Hahn 16g fits another flange (T3 flange), you also have the option of the hahn 20g, which is pretty nasty from what I've heard on the boards here. If you have a hahn manifold, then you can bolt a T3 up to it even though I wouldn't advise it seeing that certain members (bumpintalon) have had problems by bolting up turbos that were not supplied with the hahn kit. Hope that helps.
i thought Hahn was exclusively using Mitsu turbos, therefore it should fit a Mitsu 16g and not a T3.....I m gonna try to look that up and see for sure
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#95278, "RE: choice of turbo" In response to Reply # 5
If I remeber correctly, the T3 and 16g flanges are the same, but one is verticaly mounted and one horizontally, in other words a T3 on a 16g flange will turn the turbo 90degrees. Does that make sense, or am I thinking about a different turbo?
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#95280, "RE: choice of turbo" In response to Reply # 5 May-24-06 01:47 PM by BumpinTalon
Originally posted by aivanne182
Originally posted by ScreaminE I'm having a hard time following what you are asking. The 16g that comes with the hahn kit and goes with the hahn manifold is a t3 flange. I am not really familiar with the hahn kit but I believe it is a super 16g and does have the same flange as the mitsubishi 16g and 14b. mitsu 16g and 14b fits one flange (mitsubishi) Hahn 16g fits another flange (T3 flange), you also have the option of the hahn 20g, which is pretty nasty from what I've heard on the boards here. If you have a hahn manifold, then you can bolt a T3 up to it even though I wouldn't advise it seeing that certain members (bumpintalon) have had problems by bolting up turbos that were not supplied with the hahn kit. Hope that helps.
i thought Hahn was exclusively using Mitsu turbos, therefore it should fit a Mitsu 16g and not a T3.....I m gonna try to look that up and see for sure
Its a Mitsubishi turbo for sure, but it uses a weird turbine housing that has a standard Garrett T3 inlet and a standard 3" 3 bolt exhaust outlet. Garrett turbos bolt right on up thats a 50 trim T3/T04B. I was trying to use the swingvalve internal wastegate that comes stock on a lot of cars with T3s, and it fits fine, but it puts the wastegate and actuator right on the bottom, and a standard Garrett actuator will not fit since it has to go right where the starter is. The super-small HKS style actuators probably will fit, but I couldn't find one to try last summer and was going to run an O2-housing mounted TiAL 38mm instead, but the guy who said he could fabricate it turned out to a massive tool, I got pissed off, and gave up and sold all my turbo shit.
There are other options, though. You can get Holset turbos that have the wastegate actuator mounted to the turbine housing. Those will fit, if the compressor side clears the rad fans and the manifold itself (some of them will not do both). I would recommend that instead of a Garrett turbo you try to find a HX30 or HX35, since their compressors are far better then anything in the T series and are in some cases better then even the GT ball bearing compressors -- but they are never worse best kept turbo secret IMO.
If a Super 25G fits with its bigass actuator, then the Holset will fit. You'll just need to have a little more patience and time then I did, thats all.
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