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chronicshit	Mar-19-06 11:17 AM
Member since Feb 18th 2006 254 posts,

#93961, "a/f gauge"

ok so i installed my a/f today, took me like 3 hours lol. here's what i did, i extended all three lines with some wire which was a bit bigger than the ones attached to gauge, is that ok? i bought the wire for my boost gauge lighting and ground wires (same size). anyhow so i connect purple to o2 sensor by just taking a bit of the plastic off then i just inserted the wire through half of the wiring and looped it around then taped, is that also ok? my red went to the ciggarette lighter blue wire same thing with tape over. and my ground FOR NOW went to my seat bracket (where the bolt screws bracket into ground. thats bare metal isnt it? anyways i turn on the car and gauge works but i have no idea how to read it. at first it starts bouncing back and forth then stopped on the right (2 green lights) so i decide to take it out for a drive. all it does is just bounce back and forth while driving and when i rev it goes all crazy. i duno if this is right or maybe cause my ground was bad? but what should my gauge read for non-turbo (installing turbo this week).
thx

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RE: a/f gauge, jdpilot, Mar-19-06 11:28 AM, #1

RE: a/f gauge, eclipse982nrRST, Mar-19-06 12:12 PM, #2

RE: a/f gauge, baxsom, Mar-19-06 12:23 PM, #3

RE: a/f gauge, chronicshit, Mar-19-06 12:39 PM, #4

RE: a/f gauge, ForceFed420a, Mar-19-06 12:50 PM, #5

RE: a/f gauge, Moderator

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cs82685, Mar-19-06 12:52 PM, #6

RE: a/f gauge, eclipse982nrRST, Mar-19-06 02:11 PM, #7

RE: a/f gauge, chronicshit, Mar-19-06 03:15 PM, #8

RE: a/f gauge, chronicshit, Mar-19-06 03:18 PM, #9

RE: a/f gauge, eclipse982nrRST, Mar-20-06 12:04 AM, #10

RE: a/f gauge, chronicshit, Mar-20-06 08:24 AM, #11

RE: a/f gauge, djtrickee, Mar-20-06 08:31 AM, #12

RE: a/f gauge, eclipse982nrRST, Mar-20-06 08:50 AM, #13

RE: a/f gauge, djtrickee, Mar-20-06 09:33 AM, #14

RE: a/f gauge, eclipse982nrRST, Mar-21-06 12:11 AM, #15

RE: a/f gauge, djtrickee, Mar-21-06 04:48 AM, #16

RE: a/f gauge, mlsbka, Mar-21-06 06:37 AM, #17

RE: a/f gauge, eclipse982nrRST, Mar-21-06 07:52 AM, #18

RE: a/f gauge, djtrickee, Mar-21-06 08:27 AM, #19

RE: a/f gauge, chronicshit, Mar-20-06 09:46 AM, #20

RE: a/f gauge, chronicshit, Mar-20-06 11:14 AM, #21

RE: a/f gauge, djtrickee, Mar-20-06 01:30 PM, #22

jdpilot	Mar-19-06 11:28 AM
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#93962, "RE: a/f gauge"
In response to Reply # 0

Ok, well first, I personally would solder the wires or use a splice. Not tape and the method you used. Secondly, at idle it is normal to bounce to and fro, however at WOT it should be in the green and not "going crazy".

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eclipse982nrRST	Mar-19-06 12:12 PM
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#93965, "RE: a/f gauge"
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NBO2 are almost equal to saying worthless. I do give them 10% credit though, lol.

This is going to be a LOOOOOONG journey I bet guys!

-MIKE-

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baxsom	Mar-19-06 12:23 PM
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#93966, "RE: a/f gauge"
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i like my blinky gauge because it lets me know the condition of my narrowband 02 sensor

if it doesnt do what its supposed to i know at idle and at wot then i have a problem with the sensor

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chronicshit	Mar-19-06 12:39 PM
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#93968, "RE: a/f gauge"
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thx jd, yes i was going to solder but maybe in a month lol. for now im keeping gauges like that, i have way too much shit to do right now. eclipserst thx for nothing! emoji and yes this is going to be even longer than a journey emoji anyways yea my thing stayed at green but only for a little while. what does WOT stand for anyways?

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ForceFed420a	Mar-19-06 12:50 PM
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#93969, "RE: a/f gauge"
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No no no. Solder now. It takes no time and ensures you have a good connection.

Trust me, you don't want to short cut when installing a turbo. You'll blow something up because your tape job for your A/F gauge went bad and you had no idea you were running lean.

If you're going to do it, do it right.

Brian

PS. WOT means "wide open throttle". In other words, flooring it.

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cs82685	Mar-19-06 12:52 PM
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#93970, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Mar-19-06 12:52 PM by cs82685

Wide Open Throttle

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eclipse982nrRST	Mar-19-06 02:11 PM
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#93972, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by chronicshit
thx jd, yes i was going to solder but maybe in a month lol. for now im keeping gauges like that, i have way too much shit to do right now. eclipserst thx for nothing! emoji

and yes this is going to be even longer than a journey emoji

anyways yea my thing stayed at green but only for a little while. what does WOT stand for anyways?

You have got to be kidding me dude.

I have helped you through like almost everything through email and your just crazy, lol.

I seriously cannot believe you are turbo'ing your car, and you didnt know what WOT is. Your even in an Automotive class in school?

I am not trying to be dick, although I know I am coming across as one, but dude, lets be for real. I know everyone has to start somewhere, but with a turbo, and not knowing what WOT or even reading or knowing what an A/F gauge is/reads, you need to RESEARCH even more before you start boosting kid. You said before your going to be boosting 2-3psi. I would keep it there and never go ANY higher or I can already tell you your going to have MAJOR problems...

Go ahead and call me a dick now, I am awaiting it emoji

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chronicshit	Mar-19-06 03:15 PM
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#93973, "RE: a/f gauge"
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DICK!
DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK!
lol yea i knew what WOT was i just forgot dude.. ive read it before in posts n shit. anyhow im not boosting 2-3... im boostin 7 max. i already know a/f is supposed to tell u if your running lean or rich or whatever i just dont know how to read it, thats all. anyways im real tired right now so i will search tomorrow. and yes eclipserst i appreciate u helping me out with everything but u can still be a DICK sometimes emoji
only reason i was confused was because the thing kept on bouncing back and forth, can someone please explain what my gauge should read... . anyhow if no one wants to teach me here ill just go search. oh yeah and tomorrow if i have time ima go to home depot to get the soldering shit.

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chronicshit	Mar-19-06 03:18 PM
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#93974, "RE: a/f gauge"
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oh yeah one question.. today i went out and bought some vacume lines. i bought the same size vac line as the little piece i got with my boost controller cause it seemed to fit nice on sfmu, bov, etc. but i could not find T's that would have side as big as my normal vac line cause they were way too huge. what should i do? what size vac did u guys use? and explain how u got taps big enough to fit onto normal hoses which come with our cars but have taps small enough to fit size hoses that will go on bov and other stuff. or should i just move something somewhere else and leave 1 empty to use bov and sfmu on?

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eclipse982nrRST	Mar-20-06 12:04 AM
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#93981, "RE: a/f gauge"
In response to Reply # 9

Originally posted by chronicshit
should i just move something somewhere else and leave 1 empty to use bov and sfmu on?

ya just take off the brake booster vac hose and use that. Just leave the booster hose off, it will be okay. emoji

-MIKE-

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chronicshit	Mar-20-06 08:24 AM
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#93996, "RE: a/f gauge"
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are u sure man? doesnt sound like a good idea taking... and which port is brake booster one btw?

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djtrickee	Mar-20-06 08:31 AM
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#93997, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by chronicshit
are u sure man? doesnt sound like a good idea taking... and which port is brake booster one btw?

Just a fair word of warning here. Be careful who you take advice from on this website. This guy couldn't even get his intercooler pipes on the right way and has blown up several motors, lol. I'm not too sure if he is in a position to be giving out such ludicrous advice yet. haha. Do a search for better more reliable FACTUAL information. fair warning...

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eclipse982nrRST	Mar-20-06 08:50 AM
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#93998, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by djtrickee

Originally posted by chronicshit are u sure man? doesnt sound like a good idea taking... and which port is brake booster one btw?

Just a fair word of warning here. Be careful who you take advice from on this website. This guy couldn't even get his intercooler pipes on the right way and has blown up several motors, lol. I'm not too sure if he is in a position to be giving out such ludicrous advice yet. haha. Do a search for better more reliable FACTUAL information. fair warning...

And this guy here cant even get his shit straight. I have never 'blown' any motor actually. And if you want FACTUAL information, usually never take it from this guy cuz all he likes do to do is fuck around.

I was kidding about the brake booster hose dude. You can just take off a vac hose and leave it off, then you will have a leak. You need to get the proper T and T into a vac source. Not sure what year your car is, I forget, but you might even have an open vac port on the back of your intake manifold...Did you look for an open port at all?

-MIKE-

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djtrickee	Mar-20-06 09:33 AM
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#93999, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
And this guy here cant even get his shit straight. I have never 'blown' any motor actually. And if you want FACTUAL information, usually never take it from this guy cuz all he likes do to do is fuck around.

Riiiight. uh-huh. It wasn't so long ago that you were the one asking the most stupid questions on this board or even on the face of the planet. I would be careful handing out such condescending advice when you aren't exactly playing with a full deck yourself...
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=85784&mesg_id=85784&listing_type=search#85790

2 spun bearings... close enough to a blown motor, lol. Didn't you just throw new bearings in there and do the exact same thing again?

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=83107&mesg_id=83107&listing_type=search

Anyways, back to the point, n3wbie, search and all shall be revealed. I wouldn't just blindly trust people on here who tell you to yank your brake booster vac line and who think an FMU controls your oil pressure as well, lol.
either way, good luck and solder those connections for a more solid, stable reading. The narrowband AF gauge is good for knowing what your stock ECU is seeing and that is not worthless.

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eclipse982nrRST	Mar-21-06 12:11 AM
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#94021, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by djtrickee
I wouldn't just blindly trust people on here who tell you to yank your brake booster vac line and who think an FMU controls your oil pressure as well, lol.

You are a dumbass. I was kidding about the brake boosted you mentally retarded assfuck. And no one ever thought a FMU controlled OP.

You are the BANME!ie who was JUST asking about something that was broke in your spare head. If I recal it was a valve seat or something. No deej, leave a broken and cracked seat in there...

Fuckball...

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djtrickee	Mar-21-06 04:48 AM
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#94026, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Mar-21-06 04:50 AM by djtrickee

Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by djtrickee I wouldn't just blindly trust people on here who tell you to yank your brake booster vac line and who think an FMU controls your oil pressure as well, lol.

You are a dumbass. I was kidding about the brake boosted you mentally retarded assfuck. And no one ever thought a FMU controlled OP. You are the BANME!ie who was JUST asking about something that was broke in your spare head. If I recal it was a valve seat or something. No deej, leave a broken and cracked seat in there... Fuckball...

It was a valve guide, obviously something you know nothing about. Well, thats pretty much everything, lol. I didn't know which direction they were pressed in, hence my logical educated questions. I love how as soon as anyone here calls out your ineptitude (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ineptitude So you know what that crazy ass long word means) you immediately revert to kindergarten name calling, lol. You make it so easy I swear.

Every now and then someone has to let the n3wbies know the mis-informed on the board! Consider it a community service.

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mlsbka	Mar-21-06 06:37 AM
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#94028, "RE: a/f gauge"
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FUKING BAN THIS FUKER DJ...people like him and that other ass wipe who sold his eclipse are killing the integrity of this board. It just seems like these fuks just sit in front of their computers and just wait for somebody who is new to this board so they can bash them. Fuk if you dont want to respond to what they have asked JUST FUK OFF AND GO TO THE NEXT THREAD!!!

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eclipse982nrRST	Mar-21-06 07:52 AM
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#94029, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by mlsbka
FUKING BAN THIS FUKER DJ...people like him and that other ass wipe who sold his eclipse are killing the integrity of this board. It just seems like these fuks just sit in front of their computers and just wait for somebody who is new to this board so they can bash them. Fuk if you dont want to respond to what they have asked JUST FUK OFF AND GO TO THE NEXT THREAD!!!

Um, are you referring to me or DJ?

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djtrickee	Mar-21-06 08:27 AM
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#94034, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by mlsbka FUKING BAN THIS FUKER DJ...people like him and that other ass wipe who sold his eclipse are killing the integrity of this board. It just seems like these fuks just sit in front of their computers and just wait for somebody who is new to this board so they can bash them. Fuk if you dont want to respond to what they have asked JUST FUK OFF AND GO TO THE NEXT THREAD!!!

Um, are you referring to me or DJ?

lol. that, erm, FUK, as he spelled it was reffering to me. haha. i love his points remarks. Or should I say ponts. lol

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chronicshit	Mar-20-06 09:46 AM
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#94000, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Mar-20-06 09:48 AM by chronicshit

lol yea i kind of realised u can't just leave a vac line out like that even though i am a BANME! huh? howcome everytime i say n-o-o-b it changes to BANME! lol. anyhow guys no need to fight over who's gona help emoji LOL j/k but i seriously need help.. all ports on back of manifold are being used, and far one to the right has some sort of metal line attached to, however i did find one that fits the vac lines i bought real well, heres some pics

the port is obviously smaller than all the others but it just fits the lines i bought so nicely and boost gauge tap also fits in there perfect, my only concern is that if i use this for gauge, sfmu, and bov im thinking thats not a good idea right? can i atleast use it for sfmu and boost gauge? or is it too small? oh yeah and see the line im holding which i pulled off the port in 2nd pic. what line is that for?
THX GUYS!

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chronicshit	Mar-20-06 11:14 AM
Member since Feb 18th 2006 254 posts,

#94003, "RE: a/f gauge"
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ok boost gauge installed today without lighting or ground... just vac. heres what happened, when i was feeding line through carpet it somehow bent real bad but i was able to unbend it so tested if it was leaking but it wasnt, it still had a little bend though so i wasnt sure if my readings were perfect. anyhow took the car out for a spin, for non turbo is it supposed to stay down around 20 vac at idle? and with open throttle it was just sliiiiiiightly under 0 and i think it was because of the bent line. anyhow is this all correct? also does anyone know if any hardware store like home depot would sell same line that comes with autometer boost gauge?
thx

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djtrickee	Mar-20-06 01:30 PM
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#94006, "RE: a/f gauge"
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Mar-20-06 01:31 PM by djtrickee

yes, yes, and yes. search for more info.

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