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msl-manJan-04-06 05:43 PM
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#92546, "First time rebuild/turbo install"




          

Its been awhile since I've been on here but I finally graduated college and have the money to start my dream eclipse project. I have a red 98 RS(current mods below). It'll be awhile before its done(hopefully a few months) but I'm pulling the engine some time in the next week or so. I've never done this before so this'll be a learning experience even if its a complete failure. I just wanted to know if I should post pics of the project(even if its done by amatuers) and if anybody would be interested in checking them out. I figured I'd ask first so I wouldn't look like a complete jackass if I just threw them on the site. Besides, I've noticed some increasing hostility toward the nubes since I've returned to the site.

P.S. My plans include obviously a "master performance" rebuild kit from Howell (sending to a shop for the engine rebuild and balancing), turbo kit from Hahn(probably 16G stage II w/FMIC), upgraded clutch(not entirely sure what to do here yet), 3" exhaust from Hahn(turbo back including downpipe, off-road, cat, etc.) Portfueler, light nitrous if possible and whatever else you guys suggest. Yeah, I got a pretty big graduation $present$. EVery little bit helps. As I said, I'm not rebuilding the engine myself, just pulling and installing it. Other suggestions welcome!

Current mods include(but not limited to):
Eibach pro-kit
KYB adjustables
AF/X underdrive
18" wheels w/ BFG g-force T/A KDW's
GS rear brake conversion (thanks 2gnter's for help with that one!)
Sound System w/DVD (too tired to elaborate)
I think I have suspension performance covered and I can't think of anything else this late. Thanks for your input and simply letting me know if this is worth updating!

  

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RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, Blizare, Jan-04-06 06:55 PM, #1
RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, saikou, Jan-04-06 07:14 PM, #2
RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, RoughRider01, Jan-04-06 07:36 PM, #3
      RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, saikou, Jan-04-06 07:59 PM, #4
RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, XMasta19, Jan-04-06 08:17 PM, #5
RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, djtrickee, Jan-05-06 04:16 AM, #6
      RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, TeamDR1665, Jan-05-06 04:36 AM, #7
           RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, PiKapp504, Jan-05-06 07:29 AM, #8
                RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, msl-man, Jan-05-06 05:26 PM, #9
                     RE: First time rebuild/turbo install, BlackMagic, Jan-06-06 07:06 AM, #10

BlizareJan-04-06 06:55 PM
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#92548, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Scrap the Nitrous and get a Megasquirt Standalone.

Best advice I can give you.

EDIT: And don't buy a spec stg 3 clutch.


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saikouJan-04-06 07:14 PM
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#92549, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Do some research before you go off sending your entire motor to someone for a substantial amount of money.

  

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RoughRider01Jan-04-06 07:36 PM
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#92550, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Jan-04-06 07:45 PM by RoughRider01

          

Originally posted by saikou
Do some research before you go off sending your entire motor to someone for a substantial amount of money.


Is it that tough to give another sentence why you wouldnt want to do that, im guessing thats why you wrote that. Ive searched and the only negative that ive found about Howell is it make take a while to get your block back, a usual given with any good builder.

You may also want to contact VT Engines/FTY for your engine build, from what I read they do a great job.. 519-245-1164.. it cant hurt.

Good luck

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saikouJan-04-06 07:59 PM
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#92551, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Originally posted by RoughRider01
Originally posted by saikou Do some research before you go off sending your entire motor to someone for a substantial amount of money.
Is it that tough to give another sentence why you wouldnt want to do that, im guessing thats why you wrote that. Ive searched and the only negative that ive found about Howell is it make take a while to get your block back, a usual given with any good builder. You may also want to contact VT Engines/FTY for your engine build, from what I read they do a great job.. 519-245-1164.. it cant hurt. Good luck P.S. Blizare, zoom out a litte bit (your sig) emoji


He mentioned that he would be sending his motor to a shop, not necessarily being Howell... I don't even know if they have a shop; don't know much about them. Seeing as though I do not know anything about Howell, I guess you just interpretted my post wrong. My statement refers to researching how to do all the work yourself while saving a very substantial amount of money from labor. As mentioned before, this would all be a learning experience for him. And as any true DSMer knows, once you purchase a DSM, you become your own mechanic.

True, I should have been more thorough, apologies.

  

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XMasta19Jan-04-06 08:17 PM
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#92552, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Originally posted by Blizare
Scrap the Nitrous and get a Megasquirt Standalone. Best advice I can give you.
agreed

EDIT: And don't buy a spec stg 3 clutch. emoji
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djtrickeeJan-05-06 04:16 AM
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#92556, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Originally posted by Blizare
Scrap the Nitrous and get a Megasquirt Standalone. Best advice I can give you.


Whuh? So he can have a portfueler AND a megasquirt?

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TeamDR1665Jan-05-06 04:36 AM
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#92557, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Jan-05-06 04:37 AM by DR1665

          

Originally posted by djtrickee
Originally posted by Blizare Scrap the Nitrous and get a Megasquirt Standalone. Best advice I can give you.

Whuh? So he can have a portfueler AND a megasquirt?




Sending a motor off to be rebuilt isn't that expensive. It shouldn't cost more than $500 or so to have the bottom done, including balancing. When you consider this guy is talking about spending almost $6,000 in the next couple months on his car, that $500 isn't really an issue. The way I see it, if the shop balances everything for you, might as well have them install it all.

Congrats on graduating, sir. I aim to be there in October. This sub-$25k/yr bullshit has got to stop! emoji

  

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PiKapp504Jan-05-06 07:29 AM
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#92560, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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I have a SPEC Stage 3 and it's been working GREAT for me. No slipping, grabs great, holds all the power I'll be throwing at it. Have you had problems with yours? I've got over 10K miles on mine. emoji:

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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msl-manJan-05-06 05:26 PM
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#92575, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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Hey thanks man, it feels good to be done with school for now. I'll probably be living off the microwave for awhile still though(haven't found a girl to teach me how to cook yet). Anyway I plan on pulling the engine this weekend if I can find another engine stand and can borrow a hoist. I have the front end completely taken apart including headlights out, bumper and hood off and the exhaust removed from the header back. Just a few hoses and bolts before she'll come out. I'll post pictures as I go so you guys can set me straight on all the things I'm doing wrong. Check back in a few days if your interested.

BTW - For those of you wondering why I took the headlights and bumper off to pull the engine I didn't, I'm also going to have some body work done(We'll see how much $$ I have after the rebuild). Hopefully a new paint job and a Buddy Club 2 kit. Yeah, this is going to be a long project. I'll keep ya posted! Oh, yeah, thanks for the feedback!

  

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#92588, "RE: First time rebuild/turbo install"
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scrap the body work, get a bigger turbo and some head work for that money

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