#90100, "mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump"
would anyone happen to know if 93-98 tt supra injectors and a 3rd gen 3sgte fuel pump would work with my turbo set up..im going to be running a t-25 to start out..then im upgrading to a 14b...i have a stock bottem and and i dont plan on building it up (which i know i should do) for atleast a year..i wanna run 7psi with my set up..thanks for the help -Jack
#90114, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 0 Sep-28-05 05:06 PM by Blizare
Okay Jack,
Just buy a walbro 255 and some accel 310's and your set.
None of that second hand crap. It always is a weakpoint when it's "Used"
You'll Thank me later because I don't even want to tell you about the time my "Used" fuel pump went while waiting in the staging lanes at the race track. Shit like that "goes" without warning. And on the injectors, I have no idea. They could fit the rail without modification and be of the right impedance and yea, you'd have no problems. But I'd find those 2 things out beforehand.
I eat emo kids for breakfast
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#90141, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 6
Originally posted by Blizare
Originally posted by siueclipse i think the bigger question is why would you take a t25 and upgrade to a 14b turbo....
yea thats a good question but......boost is boost and if it's only 7psi....well who gives a fook what turbine he's using. IMO
Boost is not just boost regardless of the turbine/compressor. That's completely incorrect. In fact the 14b upgrade is quite popular for 2g 4g63T (and opens the upgrade path to any mitsu turbos in the future for the 2g 4g63T).
The only reason that upgrading from a T25 to a 14b on a 420a custom turbo isn't a great idea is that they use entirely different turbine housing flanges which means you'd have to redo the turbo manifold and the downpipe. There isn't going to be a huge airflow increase between the 2 either but the 14b flows more air than the T25 easily.
#90142, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 7
Originally posted by Avenger
Originally posted by Blizare
Originally posted by siueclipse i think the bigger question is why would you take a t25 and upgrade to a 14b turbo....
yea thats a good question but......boost is boost and if it's only 7psi....well who gives a fook what turbine he's using. IMO
Boost is not just boost regardless of the turbine/compressor. That's completely incorrect. In fact the 14b upgrade is quite popular for 2g 4g63T (and opens the upgrade path to any mitsu turbos in the future for the 2g 4g63T). The only reason that upgrading from a T25 to a 14b on a 420a custom turbo isn't a great idea is that they use entirely different turbine housing flanges which means you'd have to redo the turbo manifold and the downpipe. There isn't going to be a huge airflow increase between the 2 either but the 14b flows more air than the T25 easily.
the upgrade path from the T25 isn't bad either, you get the T28, FP Green, and a lot of Garret GT ball bearing turbo options.
#90143, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 8
Originally posted by BumpinTalon the upgrade path from the T25 isn't bad either, you get the T28, FP Green, and a lot of Garret GT ball bearing turbo options.
The FP Green uses a mitsubishi housing. It shouldn't be able to be bolted onto a stock 2g 4g63T manifold. There are some GT series turbos that use the T25 flange but they don't have the same range that say a T3 flange or standard Mitsu flange. Not to say that someone can't frankenstein a turbo together to use it but it'd just be easier to start out with a T3 flange or a Mitsu flange. Just my opinion.
#90145, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 9
Originally posted by Avenger
Originally posted by BumpinTalon the upgrade path from the T25 isn't bad either, you get the T28, FP Green, and a lot of Garret GT ball bearing turbo options.
The FP Green uses a mitsubishi housing. It shouldn't be able to be bolted onto a stock 2g 4g63T manifold. There are some GT series turbos that use the T25 flange but they don't have the same range that say a T3 flange or standard Mitsu flange. Not to say that someone can't frankenstein a turbo together to use it but it'd just be easier to start out with a T3 flange or a Mitsu flange. Just my opinion.
ahh I didn't know the FP Green was a mitsu flange, the local guy here with a '97 GS-T always said he had a stock manifold. scratch that then. I agree 100% with taking a T3 or Mitsu flange over a T25 flange, though, I was just pointing out other options he could have substituted for the 14B he wants.
#90147, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 10
Hmmm ... I must not be thinking straight today or something. I can't find anything that says that the 1g turbo manifold has a different flange than the 2g turbo manifold. I know the flange patterns for the turbos are different though ... huh. Wierd. Maybe they're not. Well if that's the case ... just ignore what I said earlier because a t25 flange is a mitsu flange. Now my head hurts.
#90152, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 11
Originally posted by Avenger Hmmm ... I must not be thinking straight today or something. I can't find anything that says that the 1g turbo manifold has a different flange than the 2g turbo manifold. I know the flange patterns for the turbos are different though ... huh. Wierd. Maybe they're not. Well if that's the case ... just ignore what I said earlier because a t25 flange is a mitsu flange. Now my head hurts.
I can't either, but all the Garrett sites I have looked on show the T25 flange as being something completely different then a Mitsu flange, and always thought that the 2nd gen 4G63s used a pure Garrett turbo with no mitsu parts and that's why they usually upgrade to T28s instead of 16Gs. boggling.
#90155, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 12
The mitsu flange is turned 90* to a standard t25 and it's larger also.
I know this cause the first manifold i had made the guy thought i was using a mitsu t25 from a tsi and that how the mani came. With a larger flange and turned 90*.
I eat emo kids for breakfast
1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD) 72' SuperBeetle 72' Standard Beetle 56' Deluxe Beetle
#90179, "RE: mkiv supra injectors and st205 fuel pump" In response to Reply # 13 Sep-30-05 04:38 AM by RxR_Eclipse
This argument is pointless unless we find out which T25 he has. IF it is the T25 from the second gen eclipse then you will have NO problems BOLTING the turbo to your manifold/downpipe. I know, I did it. You WILL have problems with the oil inlet. The 14B uses a different pipe fitting than the T25. You will also need to get a 'j' pipe for the compressor, or make a custom one. I would also recomend you do a external wastegate. Modding the actuator arm is a bitch and can go teribly wrong fast. Spend the $200 and get a external, hell spend the $2000 and get a kit.
Now if it is the T25 off a nissan or other make, then you will not be able to put a 14B on the same manifold. In fact the downpipe will not work either. Its like trying to put a round peg in a square hole.
As far as supra injectors go, I'm sure a quick google search will tell you if they are compatible or not.
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