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Originally posted by WickedESi The reason for the catchcan, besides probably being needed to be race legal, is just so you can monitor how much, if any, oil is being sucked out, or spewing out, and not confusing it with blue smoke from a leaking seal in your engine. Only very complicated baffles would completly prevent this
You don't need to install a catchcan with these system to be NHRA legal. Also, there should be no oil sucked or spewing out of your engine. This would be bad. The evac systems on the market all have provisions to keep the oil inside the engine. All you'd be doing with a catchcan is adding volume to the system. In a properly designed system, there will never be enough pressure in the crankcase to force oil out of the engine.
Originally posted by WickedESi People with cats can still run an exhaust evac system by placing a slashcut, or welding a tube at a 45* or less angle after the cat, where pressure is low and velocity is high very effectively.
Yeah, you could... but who wants to run a big ass hose from there valve cover to the back half of the exhaust? You're also increasing system volume if you do that.
Originally posted by WickedESi I'll put a guage on it to see what I can pull on my setup. If you're getting more blowby then a 1/2" and 3/8" (7/8" total) hole can evacuate then there is a serious problem.
How do you know? I went through 5 or 6 different systems before I found one that actually worked at all. Trust me when I say you can't just connect the two small ports on the valve to the exhaust valve and evacuate all the crankcase pressure. You'll never reach vacuum in the crankcase if you do. I use a single 2" port on the valve cover.
Originally posted by WickedESi But let's say you did, you will still have a that much less positive pressure in your crankcase, sealing everything that much better, which is why the 2-5% whp increase still stands. Sounds like a win, win situation to me...
True... but like I said, you want a little bit of vacuum in the crankcase. Even if you bleed off a little bit of the pressure, you're still going to blow cam seals, oil pan gaskets, etc.
Originally posted by WickedESi To those wanting to do this, the thing to consider is the exhaust gas velocity. If you have a huge exhaust, you will probably want to make a huge slashcut to compensate volume for the lower vacuum you'll pull, which is why you might of not had the best results dougie. If you have a 3" downpipe that transitions to say 2 1/2" you'd want to put the slashcut in the 2 1/2" section for Bernoulli's principle to work best.
No no no... you don't have to do all that. Really, do what you want, but I'm tryin to tell you what actually works. You need to run a standard crankcase evac system, without a catchcan, with a short hose and a large port on the valve cover. Anything else and you are wasting your time. Do what you want, though.
Doug
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