Well.. Im going back to the dyno in a week with race gas. Going to up the boost to 27lbs.. adjust the cam gears and call it a night.

But what after that? Is it time to start running the spray and hope my floor pans dont fall out?

Ive been thinking about the fuel requirements for such a complicated setup. I have two high flow pumps on the system, Im wondering if I should split off and have a dedicated line for the nos system.

what do you think?

If you upgrade the flow then your inline and in-tank should be plenty. Run 3/8" feed and return lines. That'll probably flow enough for 1000 HP with your current pumps.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.7 @ 87.9mph
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

What's so complicated about Nitrous?
It's simple really...

And I'm installing my Nitrous this week... but it's gonna have some special uses, some special automated uses... controlled by the MS...

And what happened to your headgasket already? You fix it?

And Nitrous isn't the cheaters way... it's just another way of getting more power out of your motor.

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Megasquirt powered 420A
Custom turbo system

http://www.ms-custom.com

If you're thinking about running a 150-shot or more, you'll want a separate fuel system for the nitrous. Also, if you're going to spray more than a 100-shot then direct port injection is the way to go with a high-HP turbocharged 4-banger.

I plan on installing a direct port 100 shot over the winter. Go for it man.

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four nails four corners four riders and four horses

direct port is the shiznit, and thats not cheating.. if you have the $$ to keep er' going, do it.

BOOM
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"Oh yea, well...My manifold does cool twisty things"

www.EnhancedMotorSports.com

I'm also thinking of going this route. After breakin I am going to be tuning for 20 psi. I also plan on running a 100 shot direct port kit. I have searched about turbo in conjunction with nitrous, but most people just say don't do it. There really aren't many posts on doing it somewhat safely. What should we do as far as ignition retard and other such thing? I would appreciate any info.

98 eclipse gs
star stage 2 w/ bb, 8.6:1 je pistons, eagle rods, web turbo grind cams, udp, clutchmasters aluminum flywheel, clutchmasters stage 3 clutch, hks aic 3, 8 injector setup, phantom grip lsd, datalogger

There's no good reason to run a direct port 100-shot, put a single nozzle in the intake pipe and be done with it. Don't use nitrous oxide with a turbo unless you really know what the fuck you're doing.

I'm at a crossroads as well on this subject... I'm currently running 24 psi on my s16g with the 034eic and I'm debating between adding nitrous or buying a s25g. Decisions, decisions...

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

Are you calling me a liar or Bill?

Ive talked to Bill on the phone several times in the past about the portfueler. Ive talked to Craig in person at Nopi about this. Thats what they told me. They said they need spray to get the turbo to spool off the line so they could launch.

Shit, if I can spool the 25g, Ill buy one tomorrow.

no need to be a dick mr doug.

thats what i was told from both of those guys. why would i lie about something this stupid? i would get benefit out of buying the damn turbo. it just doesn't make sense to lie about something like this.

if i can run the turbo, great, ill buy one rather than run spray, because i dont really want to run spray.

So what are you going to do? 25G or Nitrous? Because if you're not going to upgrade the turbocharger, I have a nitrous kit for sell.

im going to do the turbo first. then ill have fun with spray next summer.

You dumb shit... you haven't owned or broke off anyone, get a grasp on reality. You're sig pic =

We're all here having a good talk about nitrous and you post with "BOOM". That's why you're an idiot. You obviously have never even used nitrous on a turbo engine, so keep your dumb ass out of the thread.

Controversy just lurks around James’s threads, eh?

There you go again, assuming.
WTF? How the fuck does my sig pic = owned? Lmao… dude you don’t make a bit of sense.

I have a sneaky Pete nitrous on my car as we speak. It’s a small 30 shot, just to get the turbo going.


You are fucking moron.

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"Oh yea, well...My manifold does cool twisty things"

www.EnhancedMotorSports.com

Some people are better off banned. It'd be nice to ban people from certain sections as well.

Doug, I would like to ride in your car. =) Aren't you from the southeastern US? Drop me an email sometime.

Stay on topic people!

James, whichever way you go just make sure you dyno in 4th gear.

-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft

yes 4th gear..

oh yes.. there will be plenty of 4th gear..

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

ok, not to start another wave of attacks, but im sick and damn tired of nitrous being called the "cheaters way" its bolt on horsepower on a switch. maybe not everyone can afford 5K for a rebuild and turbo kit right now. and maybe not everyone wants HP all the time. its something thats nice to have when you need it. how about i just call aftermarket superchargers and turbocharger "cheating". its about the same mentality. if you think bolting up large ammounts of HP is "cheating" then there is something seriously flawed here.

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2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4x

2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R

1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-NX 75 shot, AEM CAI, P&P t/b and intake mani-SOLD

1964 Buick Electra 225-all original, all power options, 325hp, 445ft/lbs tq

It's only considered cheating if the other guy has it, and you don't.

I just installed my setup tonight.

Maybe I'll post pics tomorrow.

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Megasquirt powered 420A
Custom turbo system

http://www.ms-custom.com

i consider it cheating if you dont tell someone about something. if you bolt on a turbo, have performance mods, nitrous, whatever but tell your opponent that you are stock...yeah, thats cheating. if you say "hey, iv got nitrous and bla bla bla" and he still wants to race he has been made full aware of your capabilities and if he chooses to race and loses, he forfits the right to bitch about you cheating because he knew about everything but your driving skill beforehand.

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2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4x

2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R

1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-NX 75 shot, AEM CAI, P&P t/b and intake mani-SOLD

1964 Buick Electra 225-all original, all power options, 325hp, 445ft/lbs tq

-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft

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four nails four corners four riders and four horses

Originally posted by etx

Originally posted by Avenger You people actually tell someone what you have before you race?! You race to race. Regardless of how bad you think you are gonna get creamed or not. I wouldn't want to race only when I think I'm gonna win. Losing isn't that bad. The only cheating that can be done is if you go throw a screwdriver in his timing belt before the race or go slash a tire or something crazy like that. Not disclosing all your mods before a race isn't a big deal. Hell I don't say anything about my car before a race (though I'm sure someone could conclude I am turbo from the FMIC).

That's what bracket racing is for. Matt! Long time no post! I had to get rid of my s16g, it wasn't cutting it. After 18 psi is useless. Now I'm running 25 psi on a 25g turbo. It fully spools by 4k, so that gives about a 4k-7k rpm powerband. If you launch properly it's not a problem to keep it in that range. To be honnest I'm a bit dissapointed with this 25g right now. It's not the turbo, it's my EMS. The stock ecu is just too sloppy for a turbo like this.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

Damnit.. can't edit my post anymore... stupid 2gnt

That sucks that you aren't satisfied with the S25g on your car. Are you still using the 034eic??? If so, what are your current settings? I've picked up several little tricks on that thing that may help you to get it running more smoothly (maybe not, but hopefully).

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

Originally posted by Matt_95tgs
Damnit.. can't edit my post anymore... stupid 2gnt That sucks that you aren't satisfied with the S25g on your car. Are you still using the 034eic??? If so, what are your current settings? I've picked up several little tricks on that thing that may help you to get it running more smoothly (maybe not, but hopefully).

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four nails four corners four riders and four horses

Nice! Let me know how you like the MS once you get it up and running. I'll be interested to hear the opinion of someone who's worked with both the 034eic and the MS. I'm hoping I can check it out in person sometime in the spring at Milan. I really want to get over there sometime in the spring to spend some track time with the old MI guys. It's just not the same here in VA.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

That's cool if that's the way you want to do it.

I'm just race oriented and say the hell with it and spend more money for bigger and better parts if I want bigger and better results.

To each his own. There's more than one way to skin a cat!