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97eclipseRS_TJun-09-04 04:39 AM
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#72399, "Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"


          

Today i woke up and drove my car home from a friends house and noticed the turbo sounded kind of choppy. I drove for about a half an hour (until i was out of amish country). I stopped the car and noticed that it was sounding really loud. My best guess is that theres a bolt loose to the exaust manifold but i honestly dont know. I continued driving home and it kept making the same noise, similar to an old v8, real loud and nasty sounding. I also noticed that the reading on my boost gauge would not go above 0psi. I dont have a pyrometer/egt gauge otherwise the problem would be obvious. Anyone have any idea? Right now im letting the car cool down so i can get to the exaust manny but until then can someone help me out please? Thanks.

  

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RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, 97eclipseRS_T, Jun-09-04 06:34 AM, #1
RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, ModeratorCorbin, Jun-09-04 06:34 AM, #2
RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, 97eclipseRS_T, Jun-09-04 07:09 AM, #3
      RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, 97eclipseRS_T, Jun-09-04 07:10 AM, #4
           RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, Steve, Jun-09-04 09:03 AM, #5
           RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, jsupetran, Jun-09-04 10:53 AM, #6
           RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, Kirby, Jun-09-04 09:19 AM, #7
                RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, Steve, Jun-09-04 10:45 AM, #8
                     RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, er0ckz, Jun-09-04 11:42 AM, #9
                          RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, BumpinTalon, Jun-09-04 05:44 PM, #10
RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, GhEttOrAiD, Jun-09-04 01:08 PM, #11
RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, thegame, Jun-10-04 03:36 AM, #12
      RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, siueclipse, Jun-10-04 06:10 PM, #13
           RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!, 420AYE, Jun-12-04 12:15 PM, #14

97eclipseRS_TJun-09-04 06:34 AM
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#72408, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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dont all respond at once now... :p

  

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ModeratorCorbinJun-09-04 06:34 AM
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#72409, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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Jun-09-04 06:35 AM by Corbin

          

I think you've figured it out. I'd expect it to be a loose exhaust connection or blown gasket. It could be at the manifold to head connection or the manifold to turbo connection. It could also be at the turbo to downpipe connection. The first two should have the worst symptoms. All of them will sound loud and throw off your O2 sensor output (causing poor fueling).

I usually start the car up cold and immediately start running my fingers along the likely places. You can usually feel the leaking air and shut the car off before it gets too hot.

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97eclipseRS_TJun-09-04 07:09 AM
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#72411, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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well i figured out the gasket that connects the wastegate to the headers/exaust manifold is in half. Now the biggest problem is to figure out where the hell to get that. I cant even start the car i have no clue why...

  

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97eclipseRS_TJun-09-04 07:10 AM
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#72412, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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can i just remove the remnents of the gasket and not use any gasket?

  

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SteveJun-09-04 09:03 AM
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#72418, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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Jun-09-04 09:05 AM by Steve



          

http://www.importparts.com/shop/index.php?cPath=700_704


http://www.roadraceengineering.com/flangesandgaskets.htm


flanges/gaskets n more. and you pulled 13.8 with 8psi??on a 16g?(according to the sig)

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jsupetranJun-09-04 10:53 AM
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#72428, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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Originally posted by Steve
http://www.importparts.com/shop/index.php?cPath=700_704 http://www.roadraceengineering.com/flangesandgaskets.htm flanges/gaskets n more. and you pulled 13.8 with 8psi??on a 16g?(according to the sig)


That was mitifo's time, on a star kit, so no 16g; a t3/34 probably.


Anyway, no you can't just take apart the gasket and run without one. YOu will have even more leaks.

-------jezreel
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nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
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#72420, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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If this is the star kit with external WG then just use some HIGH temp RTV for now and then order a new gasket...



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SteveJun-09-04 10:45 AM
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#72426, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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yeah I wasent sure if it would be aprpriate for this situation with the rtv but ...I love rtv..it fixed my shoe and my throttlebody so far...It's like the new duct tape.

Steve-o
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Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger. emoji

  

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er0ckzJun-09-04 11:42 AM
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#72430, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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yo, you have a star kit right? your exhaust manifold might have cracked. i blow my exhaust manifold gasket all the time and i can still spool. you might have cracked your manifold. that what im guessing.

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BumpinTalonJun-09-04 05:44 PM
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#72456, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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It could very well be your manifold... my buddy has a turbocharged MX-3 and he cracked his manifold. It made a reall really bad noise, stopped boosting at all, and ran like junk. Your gasket is cracked in half? Maybe something shifted to break it. You might have another leak somewhere else too.


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GhEttOrAiDJun-09-04 01:08 PM
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#72438, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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Do what was already suggested, start your car up and wave your hand around + try to trace a leak.

What if he burnt up/flattened out his turbine?

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#72471, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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off- topic: dude, i seen your car at the summit show last weekend. looked good. i was standing by your car for a while waiting for u, but u never came. o well. there was another 2gnt with a star kit there too. but u probably seen that.


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#72501, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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i say its a blown turbo. even with a massive exaust leak or crack or whatever.. you will at least obtain some boost. it wont just stop at 0.

i blew up my turbo once (16g) because of lack of oil. boost gauge wouldn't go over 0, massive noise from the what sounded like exhaust manifold..

i can't believe nobody has mentioned to check the turbo by looking in the inlet.

or.. i might be too stone and just didn't read everything.



  

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#72560, "RE: Turbo troubles, not spooling, engine making a crapload of noise!"
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Originally posted by siueclipse
i say its a blown turbo. even with a massive exaust leak or crack or whatever.. you will at least obtain some boost. it wont just stop at 0. i blew up my turbo once (16g) because of lack of oil. boost gauge wouldn't go over 0, massive noise from the what sounded like exhaust manifold.. i can't believe nobody has mentioned to check the turbo by looking in the inlet. or.. i might be too stone and just didn't read everything.




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