#71237, "A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" May-19-04 06:44 PM by lickscissors
well everyone...my car is finally running and running pretty well.... i got it tuned allright, i know it still needs some fine adjustments, but for now im happy.... here is a price list of what i paid for everything: downer engine- (2001 neon 20k miles sohc engine) 200 eagle rods - 300 JE 9.6:1 pistons - (ebay) 330 turbo and manifold - 340 shipped rfl bov - 50 shipped 255 fuel pump - 55 shipped starion fmic - 150 shipped o2 housing to make downpipe - 25 shipped intercooler pipes bent - 30 downpipe bent -20 sfmu - (ebay) 125 missing link - 30 30# injectors - 70 egt gauge - 75 shipped boost/oil gauge - 90 mls headgasket - 45 total: $1935
i built my engine myself...it went well and i have had no problems with the engine...i used custom made pistons i got from ebay...they are stock bore/stock compression JE pistons...i took my chances with them and im actually happy with the decision... i welded my own downpipe...i cut the flanges off of the 14b o2 housing and welded the downpipe to that...thats my favorite part about the setup...im proud of the way it turned out.... the fmic was modified to 2.25" by my father who works at alcoa...i cut the holes and he welded it up at work...the intercooler pipes are 2.5" exhaust pipes...i welded the rfl flange and i welded a rim around the IC pipes to keep them from blowing off... the wastegate actuator was moved under the turbo...all i did was shorten the arm and weld a washer on it...it wasnt that bad...the oil lines are transmision cooling lines...the oil line off of the turbo is a coolant line from a 13g turbo...i made corbins air/fuel gauge and molded it into my dash....i wish i would of taken more pictures along the way...but i just get excited and cant stop..... i still need to make some sort of heat sheild and a support arm for the turbo....i dont know how the manifold will hold up without support...let me know what you think....right now im running 9psi until i install the 450s and water injection....
my mods other than turbo are: greddy exhaust msd ignition aem cam gears udp short throw shifter tockico illumina/neuspeed springs gs rear disks, tsi power doors, gsx seats the car was also painted by myself
modified intercooler engine far away engine close downpipe air fuel gauge dash full inside (homemade floor mats) my car...mmm...stillen my car from front
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71239, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 1
my welding could use work....but for not really welding before...im damn proud with the way it turned out...i used a mig welder, it could of been a little bit stronger to melt through the cast...but i got it to soak in and flow...it was a bitch welding to the cast.... thanks for the reply doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71242, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 0
damn man i love your car. and i actually helped cause thats my triple pod your using. nice ass setup man. would you mind if i hit you up on aim sometime for further info bout your setup? ive been contemplating a 14b setup as well and itd be nice to get some info from someone with experience.
#71243, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 3
Props to you mang!!! welcome to the club!
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#71250, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 6
thanks....yeah my aim name is lickscissors also...im not on there much but you can email me at lickscissors@hotmail.com ....the hardest part about the 14b setup is the downpipe....i think it would of been a lot easier if i just ran the wastegate pipe straight down and exhausted it to the air...but cant do that with emissions... i also had to modify the stock j-pipe for the 14b..i cut it and turned it about 30degrees and rewelded it...that way it was sticking straight out...i still need to paint all my pipes so when i pull them all out, ill try and get a picture of everything...and yes it did cost right around 2 grand for everything...i left out some stuff like the rings and bearings...but that was about 125 for those...but then if you subtract the cost of selling my engine (500) my CAI (75) headers (150) i got next to nothing in it....and the gauge pod is working great....and tim97, im using your injectors and missing link if you dont remember....thanks again for all the help, i seriously would of had no idea where to start without this site doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71264, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 8 May-20-04 07:54 AM by thedawg
I'm really impressed with that setup.
Did Alain make that mani? Is it his old version or the newer version?
Could you take a couple more pics of the turbo area, showing the fan clearance and turbo outlet to IC connections?
I'm sure you haven't tuned it yet, but im curious whenever you get it setup what timing retard at what boost levels you're using with the 14b.
Also, yes support that mani REALLY well... use as many brackets as you can fit on the mani, DP, etc. otherwise everything will start cracking at the welds. (See: NER kit)
#71262, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 0 May-20-04 07:31 AM by micyek
looks good...but watch you A/C line...mine is about that close to the DP and now has a hole in it...and no refigerent plus I have the DP wraped in high heat wrap...just a word of caution
#71291, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 10
im planning on making some support brackets...ill try and get some more pictures up soon.... i wish my pocketlogger would stay connected because i kind of need it to tune....i think im running rich still because i keep getting cel 1294 (air fuel metering)...im pretty sure its rich, not lean.... the downpipe clears the ac line fairly well...it comes close to the compressor, but not the lines...i believe it is alains manifold...i actually bought the manifold and turbo off of neo4b? off of this site about a year ago... thanks for the support everyone doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71309, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 12
just keep your eyes open and be patient....i looked for a sfmu forever on ebay...then i got that one about a minute after he posted it for the buy it now price of 125....i actually thought i was going to get ripped off...good luck doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71322, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 15
I wanna know where you got the aluminum pipes for the starion. I wanted them to reweld the opening for the intercooler for me, but they said only aluminum would stick and they didn't have any. They said a 2.25" aluminum pipe would cost about 85 bucks. They meaning the welding company. So I was stuck with the stock pipe opening until I find a way to weld it with new pipes.
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#71329, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 16
my dad welded them at work...he works at ALCOA (Aluminum Company of America)....he did an awsome job...i couldnt find anyone else to do it.... i was not using the stock itty bitty pipes..... ill post some dyno numbers once i put the 450s and water inject it....right now im on a stock clutch also....thanks doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71335, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 17
1001 posts!! hell yeah.... i went with the 14b because of the spool up time, ability to push some good numbers, easibility of upgrading, and it was cheap... im hoping for CLOSE to 300whp once i water inject it and turn up the boost... i dont think its that far out of the question with a 14b.... i actually just got a Beltronics accelerometer...it is sweet..you can do quarter mile runs almost perfectly accurate...it was only 100$...it also tells you your 60ft, 1000ft, 1/8mile, 0-10,0-20, and so on.... you guys should check in on it....ill let you know my times with the 30# and 9psi for now though.... doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71360, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 19
so far its holding up allright...i noticed its a lot touchier...like when you're pulling out and reving up or shifting you really have to let go fast.....im hoping to make it until winter doug
14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi screw flanders
#71363, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 20
hm coo I was a little iffy about that. Im a little boost hungry and that 350 dollar spec clutch is a limiting factor lol but I guess a stock clutch works good..mine grabs like a champ so yeah....
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#71435, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 21
Your setup pretty much looks like mine . Anyway word from the wise. You need to get a heat shield on teh turbo to protect your AC fan. If you do not you will melt through it. My T25 did not produce enough heat to kill that fan, but after only 1 day with the 14B the fan (housing not the actual fan itself) was destroyed. I had to un plug it so it would not come on at all.
#72948, "RE: A thanks to everyone that helped....pics and costs of my 14b setup inside" In response to Reply # 28
Dear lord your like my twin brother .....Im also running about 9psi, but using some #30 injectors. Loving it over the T25 I had before. Your welds look great man. I wish my welder would do as good but its the cheap linkin one. . Anyway glad to hear you got it all up and running .
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plus I have the DP wraped in high heat wrap...just a word of caution 
. Anyway word from the wise. You need to get a heat shield on teh turbo to protect your AC fan. If you do not you will melt through it. My T25 did not produce enough heat to kill that fan, but after only 1 day with the 14B the fan (housing not the actual fan itself) was destroyed. I had to un plug it so it would not come on at all.
.....Im also running about 9psi, but using some #30 injectors. Loving it over the T25 I had before. Your welds look great man. I wish my welder would do as good but its the cheap linkin one. 
. Anyway glad to hear you got it all up and running