There are 2 people seling both size injectors.... the 870's are Seimens Deika and the 650's are fic ball/disc injectors .. both are very negotiable and starting price for 650 is 200 and 870s is 225... which should i go with ... lol.. i dont think ill need 870's .. so i should take the 650's this is all for my future turbo set up ... i have a smic and bov right now . Ordering a 16g in a few weeks...
#68856, "RE: 650's or 870's" In response to Reply # 0
650's with a 16g? That's overkill if i've ever seen it.
Are they even saturated injectors?
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#68894, "RE: 650's or 870's" In response to Reply # 3
There are two kinds of injectors, made for two kinds of injector driver circuits, and they behave in different ways and have different characteristics. Our injectors are "saturated," or high impedance, and other cars, such as 4g63 DSMs, use "peak & hold" injectors made for a high impedance peak & hold driver. You cannot mix high impedance injectors with a low impedance driver, or high impedance drivers with a low impedance injector.
Our cars use a high resistance saturated injector. Low impedance injectors can burn up the driver, which is part of the ecu, which means you fry an ECU.
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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco) '95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor) '97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control) '99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater) '13 Evo X (mostly stock) '17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)
that thing is interesting....basicaly, what it looks like to me is a fancy relay box that uses the stock injector singal to controll and power the bigger injectors. It's pretty much the same principle of the fuel pump rewire mod. You use the stock power feed to trip a relay that now supplys the "bigger" power. Why can't I think of things like that?
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