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LAST EDITED ON 20-May-01 AT 09:07 AM (PST)

I was interested in knowing how much the Accel DFI unit, or any onther product that might address my timing issues. As well as if you would do the install and tunning. I currently have the following mods on my 95 RS eclipse (OBD1).
HRC Stage 2
8:5.1 Wiesco pistons w/rings
Crower rods
Apex'i S-AFC
RC 440 injectors
2"1/2 custom I/C piping
GReddy FMIC
GReddy ProfecB Boost controller (on its way)
GReddy Turbo timer (on its way)
GReddy S-Type BOV
Custom 2"1/2 Downpipe and exhaust system
MSD DIS-2 ignnition w/ tach addapter. (no timing retard box)
I have looked into the options that MSD offers and am not quite sold on them. Please let me know my best safest options that will give me the most for my set up.
I have also e-mailed you at your Sales address but thought you might see it here first. Thanks HRC
SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MWC (Ray Sabinske)

LAST EDITED ON 20-May-01 AT 07:23 PM (PST)

EXCELLENT Question MWC!

PLease post the reply on here isf you get it, before Bill reads this! Thanks...

Bill, if possible I would like to know about some of that too!

I also have your Stage II with the A'PEXi FMIC option.
I am also Early 95, OBD-1 and will need injectors along with the ACCELL.

I have a 9.5:1 JE Pistons & crower rods though...

Thank you in advance.

MWC, I just did some surfing around, you might wanna check out these links:

http://www.mrgasket.com/dfinew.htm
http://www.fuelinjection.com/accel.html

I am actually starting to like this thing!

Bill: DO you use the "new" Accel DFI unit? The oone with the CalMap 2000?
Guy
RS_Guy



http://www.GTuned.com

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www.GTuned.com

LACK OF INTEREST in the questions asked, based on the response.


The HRC/DFI unit we use is for fuel control only. Please call our TechLine at
630-801-9065 for tuning help. They are open fron 1:00-5:00pm central time. Thank
you.
--HRC Sales


Hahn RaceCraft
1981 D Weisbrook Dr.
Oswego, IL 60543
(630) 801-1417
Fax (253) 830-7558
WWW.HRCHAHNRACECRAFT.COM
WWW.TURBOSYSTEM.COM

HRC uses the MSD dis-2 for timing issues on the higher-end turbosystems.

Bring it on............

MSD sells a very similiar setup to this.

http://www.cranecams.com/ignition1/hi6di2a.htm

it uses a map sensor that retards the timing under boost. It is the same setup that the stage V kit runs if i am not mistaken. I have never really seen one in person to be able to tell you the truth. But, i believe through emails i have had with HRC, that is what they told me. It seems like a very good solution to having too much advance under boost for you people who want to just use 440's and an S-AFC and don't want to go full standalone, or even if you go with the accel, you will still need it, since it won't be able to controll our direct fire ignitions.


jason
95 GS Turbo

http://smkn95eclipsemwc.homestead.com/mainpage.html

Also, I believe the Accel DFI runs Peak and Hold injectors.

LAST EDITED ON 22-May-01 AT 02:50 PM (PST)

>got a response, but seems like there is............ LACK OF INTEREST in the questions
>asked, based on the response.
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>The HRC/DFI unit we use is
>for fuel control only. Please
>call our TechLine at
>630-801-9065 for tuning help. They are
>open fron 1:00-5:00pm central time.
>Thank
>you.
>--HRC Sales

I have been out of town racing. It appears that I have spoiled you fellows in the past with instant responses! I have to tell ya, there will be periods where duties such as racing or development keep me away from the computer for a few days. However, you did email our Sales department, which referred you to Tech Support, which is what they are instructed to do. No lack of interest, just following orders! Even when I am not scanning this board, or responding within hours to emails, Tech Support is available daily over the phone (provided I am not out of town, which does happen regularly during racing season).

Your best bet for tech assistance is any one of the following:

Email me directly: eng@turbosystem.com
Or, email tech@turbosystem.com. I do not retrieve this email personally, but those that require my assistance are forwarded to me.
If you would like quick help, pick up the phone! It may seem antiquated in this computer crazy world, but the phone is still the quickest method of achieving tech support. I simply cannot perform all of my duties while parked in front of the computer! But I do take these calls daily, every afternoon, as many quite satisfied customers can attest.

I will email you directly with answers to your original questions about timing retard. Any other HRC customers who have similar questions can contact me for personal assistance (with these or other questions) using any of the methods outlined above. We are SO there for you!

Bill Hahn Jr.
HRC

Bill Hahn Jr.
98 RS Turbo: 10.87 @ 136 MPH
HRC Stage V with N20
Nation's Fastest Street FWD 2G DSM
www.turbosystem.com

I am very understanding about the not being able to answer daily on the board. Your help has always been appreciated from me as well as a lot of others here. I was referimg to the short answer to a question that I am sure requires a little more in depth one. I will patiently await the reponse to the original question, and thank you in advance for it.
SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!MWC









http://smkn95eclipsemwc.homestead.com/mainpage.html

Without your testing and tuning etc. Your turbo products would not be the first class systems that they are.

I personally find it great that you even take the time to post on a board like this. Most manufacturers don't bother. While a turbo is a ways down the road for me. When I make the decision to install a turbo, I have seen nothing that would deture me from buying one from HRC. Plus you're in the next town

I look forward to meeting you in person at the shootout, and seeing what your RS has up her sleeve this time around. and Bill, how often to you go to Route 66 to test?

"To strive to seek to find... and not to yield."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com
aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

Injen CAI w/ K&N Breather Filters, AFX UDP, 55mm TB, GS-T Muffler, FU/RU/RL STBs, Front NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., Red Silicone Hose Kit, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, Bosch Rapidfire Plugs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17

And in my Room: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Intake manifold 4 porting, Rear Motor Mount Ins. RRE FL Tie Bar(Well Almost), Slver Cadmium Plated KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads (Well Almost)

Firefly:
Mal: You don't know me, son, so let me put this to you plainly: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me. And you'll be armed.

We will be heading out there soon with the RS, or perhaps out to Byron in the next couple of weeks.

Keep in touch!
Bill

Bill Hahn Jr.
98 RS Turbo: 10.87 @ 136 MPH
HRC Stage V with N20
Nation's Fastest Street FWD 2G DSM
www.turbosystem.com