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420AYEMay-17-03 05:06 AM
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#48972, "how much clearance under the hood?"


          

How much clearance is there under the hood of our cars? I'm specifically curious right where our cam gears are. how much room is there between the cam gears and the hood. i'm hoping like 2.5"?? I am thinkin about an idea i have in mind and it involves running a 3" pipe in that area all the way to the firewall from about the radiator.

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RE: how much clearance under the hood?, Teamner947, May-17-03 05:12 AM, #1
RE: how much clearance under the hood?, 420AYE, May-17-03 05:50 AM, #2
      RE: how much clearance under the hood?, RyaN95i4, May-17-03 06:21 AM, #3
           RE: how much clearance under the hood?, 420AYE, May-17-03 06:24 AM, #4
                RE: how much clearance under the hood?, ClipseRST, May-17-03 02:50 PM, #5
                RE: how much clearance under the hood?, juggalo, May-17-03 03:01 PM, #6
                     RE: how much clearance under the hood?, 420AYE, May-17-03 08:06 PM, #7
                          RE: how much clearance under the hood?, YourInMyMirror95GS, May-30-03 05:13 PM, #8

Teamner947May-17-03 05:12 AM
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#48973, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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i bet it's a little less than 2 inches. i know the 2.4 conversion guys have a slightly taller block and they have cam gear clearance issues.


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420AYEMay-17-03 05:50 AM
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#48976, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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May-17-03 05:54 AM by 420AYE

          

less than 2????? crazy... i need like 3".. maybe i could buy one of them double hump hoods. think there is any way i can create room ounder there? i need like another 1/2 inch or so.'

just read this on hahns site:
Single pipe, stepped design from 2" to 2 1/4"

thats how big is air piping is... looks like i need that "little less than 2 inches" space!!

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RyaN95i4May-17-03 06:21 AM
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#48977, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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if clearnace is close, you could always cut away the hood bracing in that spot.....

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420AYEMay-17-03 06:24 AM
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#48978, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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yeah.... alright, here's why i wanted to know...

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Before all you flamers start, yes i am car literate, i've been reading these boards for a while so i've seen many people's "custom kit" ideas blow away in a few days and i've seen some people with bad ass kits. i am actually a good welder and can work with metal and other things pretty well. This is an idea that has been floating around in my head for a few days now. I have thought this up on the SOLE PURPOSE of being unique. I don't want to hear all of you people bitching about how a single turbo is better etc. My goal here is to create a turbo setup that is either:
A)twin turbo
or
B)Sequential
In that order. My goal is the build a manifold(YES I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES AND NO I WILL PROBABLY NOT MAKE IT!!!!!!) that supports two small turbos, what do you guys think would be a good pair for our car? t25's?14b's?t28? i was thinkin 25's but a 14b also can be upgraded easily and it was easier to find a used one for cheap on ebay. And as far as hood capacity i've asked a question somewhere else in this forum about hood clearance. I want to know if the posibility of two TB's is possible. the only problems i can see is the idle being fuct up by having two iac's to control...but even if you spliced the iac signal wire to accomadate two tb's, there is still more airflow than with 1 tb. will the iac's be able to compensate for this electronically? the way i want to mount the dual tb's is to take my intake mani, chop off the left side of it. not any of the runners but just enough that i can buy another manifold, chop off the same size piece of the tb flange and weld it on the other side. i'd have to move the map sensor and other things i'm sure but i am thinkin it won't be too hard. another question is what is the mani made of? can it be welded to with any strength? and as far as tb's go, if a tb will work upside down then i don't think i'll have a problem using it. I'll just have to reroute the throttle cable and extend it so that i can wrap the wire around the tb on the left a couple times, then over to the right tb... like this: __0_/---0
yet again another bad example. but you get the idea. it just needs to be wound around the first 0 once or twice so that whent he 0 on the right is pulled it twists the left 0 the opposite direction, which is actually the correct way because its upside down...get it? back to the manifold. i think that in order to get the twin turbo's to fit in the space provided, i'll have to move some of the enginebay stuff around. like the radiator hose, and maybe some stuff by the left side of the bumper(facing it).the manifold will be built with two parts. obviously one part for the 1 and 2 cyl. and one for the 3,4. the flanges will both be moved away from eachother a inch or two to create more room between the turbos. this is where my idea comes in. will turbos work upside down? i saw that wheat king guy had his turbo on the stock manifold upside down... because the turbo ont he left will be completely upside down, and the flanges will be welded on at an angle so the turbos are in a V shape... this way, both the turbine housings will be next to eachother and the compressors will be on the outsides. making piping easier and btw this idea is non-IC'd. the advantage of this would be, the heat wouldn't be gong by the air pipes and the DP would be much easier to make. what do you guys think so far? the main problem with this is clearance. the turbo on the left will have the pipe that leads to the tb on the left go over the cam gears. or in that little space between the strut tower and the cam gears(save a half inch or so) I'm not sure, but how big does the piping have to be? 3" or so? the piping on the right is self explanitory. this would feature twin BOV's and no IC's. maybe another version, or when i feel like hacking out my engine bay to accomodate room. as far as money, i am going to college!!!!! but i only need to make 3500 this summer to have college completely paid off. (i got a bunch of financial aid(grants)and am taking out a small loan) the idea is i'll be working in salt lake city all summer long doing some roofing work(sealing up roofs with this epoxy shiat).like all the parenthesis? so I'll make around 8-9g's this summer.if i make 8 g's, that leaves me with 4500 to do this... think i can do it? another problem, i'm not very familiar with the fuel side of this. i'm not sure how a MBC controls boost very well, so would it be able to control two turbos?

Having Problems? Heres my Three step solution to anything 2gnt related.
Step 1: Put down everything in your hands.
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Step 3: Walk to the fridge, double fist some keystone ice, sit down in the shade, drink one beer, finish cigarette, drink other beer, roll a joint, smoke it, walk back to your problem, and in about 5 minutes the solution will come to you.
If not. Go here: here

If still nothing, your trying to hard. Start over at step 1.

  

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ClipseRSTMay-17-03 02:50 PM
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#49002, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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no

  

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juggaloMay-17-03 03:01 PM
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#49004, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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you would only want to have 1 of the IACs connected, that way it would idle properly. the manifold is aluminum. i wouldn't run that without intercooling either. the compressor and turbine housings can be mounted in any position, the cartridge is the only thing that has to be in a certain positon.

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#49017, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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awesome. well, i don't NEED to intercool it if I don't put much boost to the engine. because both turbos will be boosting say 5 psi and it will only be 5 psi as far as i can see because it goes to a local area"the manifold" so it pools there and goes into the cylinders..

Having Problems? Heres my Three step solution to anything 2gnt related.
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Step 2: Grab a lucky strike, Smoke it.
Step 3: Walk to the fridge, double fist some keystone ice, sit down in the shade, drink one beer, finish cigarette, drink other beer, roll a joint, smoke it, walk back to your problem, and in about 5 minutes the solution will come to you.
If not. Go here: here

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#49728, "RE: how much clearance under the hood?"
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