Well I'm installing the turbo Saturday at 11:30am, so I might be asking a lot of questions between now and then...and afterwards most likely as well

Anyway...some questions:

Will I need to take it slow and not boost for a while to break in the system? Or will it be ok to go right out after installation and boost all the way home?

For those who have the autometer -30 +30 boost gauge that came with the kit, (#2614)...how did you end up hooking it up? I am used to boost gauges going into vacuum lines with T fittings...but all this has is a tap...just wondering how you all installed it.

For anyone who put an EGT probe in their HRC exhaust manifold...where did you put it? I know it goes on the right most runner (#4, closest to the battery), but it seems that the probe is really long and would not only obstruct the flow of the exhaust, but it might not fit? (I got the autometer pro-comp ultra-lite EGT gauge (#4365) and the probe (#5249)) Also, has there been any problem with the steel cracking with the probe there?

I guess thats it for now....thanks ahead of time.

man..there are a lot of tiny little part I'm glad they are all in their own little bags. I am learning a lot and I haven't even installed it yet.

-Jeff
HRC Super 16G is HERE! (in a box in my living room)

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No break in, as long as the turbo has got oil your good to go. As I said before I ran the boost gauge with some vaccuum line I went and bought along with the NPT fittings I needed for the gauge to accept the bigger tubing. I put my EGT into the DP, I just didn't feel right about tapping into those short runners. The manifold just seemed to important to risk it cracking with the EGT. Also with the style of manifold and the length of the runners I'm not sure tapping into anyone of the runners would give you a super accurate reding as to what is really going on in that one cylinder and only that cylinder. So the DP is my safe choice, I don't want any broken probes going through the turbo either.

LAST EDITED ON 20-Apr-01 AT 06:49 AM (PST)

Good Advice.

I ran the boost guage just as the directions have noted. I have changed that setup slightly as of late though. I use a true vacuum line all the way past the firewall throught he steering boot and THEN to the nylon tube.(instead of running the nylon tube though the firewall) A small round brass fitting and brass nut should go around the end of the nylon tube so that it meets the vacuum line to from a compression-like fitting.(i.e. by having the brass nut actually screw on the vacuum line and the round brass fitting inside creating the compression seal) The directions should explain.

As far as the EGT guage, I used a Westach 1/8th inch K-style bayonnet probe. It was the smallest they offered and came with some options. It came with both a weld-on bung and a compression nut. I had a machine shop use a NPT tap and drill a hole approximately 3-4" away on the #4 runner bend using only the compression nut. It's right on the bend as well, pointing slightly downward at a 30 degree angle.

I don't know how intrusive the autometer probe is, but my probe fit fine. (At first, I was worried as well, but after examintion, I realized it was fine.)

As far as any worries regarding the probe falling through the blades, that could be a concern. However, most every 4g63 turbohead employs this location without much in worries. If that happens, it happens. However, when a probe starts to wear, it becomes really deteriorated and almost disintegrates. I'm guessing my probe will stop working before it actually falls off and if it does fall off, I suspect it will be mostly ashes.

One thing of note. Before you install that autometer probe, realize that your particular probe has rated VERY poorly amongst the 4g6 crowd. Apparently the probe (not the guage itself) has a very slow response time. Didn't want to insult your probe or anything, but before you install it, I just wanted you to know the results of some of my own research. Many 4g6 people use the Westach probe (which costs like $25-$35) and the Autometer guage.

Good luck and keep us tuned in! I hope your cruise control relocation project goes smoothly. :p Also the turbo on the turbo exhaust manny is a tight fit, but keep at it and it'll go in like butter! Oh and start putting rust loosener on the cat bolts a couple of days ahead. As a a matter of fact, wrap a rag on there saturated in rust loosener.

Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)/Custom FMIC


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Guys thanks for the advice. I didn't even think of the probe falling into the turbo... what are the ill effects of putting it in the downpipe right after the cat? Just add 200 to the temperature that the EGT reads?


On another note...the guy who makes the Jumptronix A/F gauges was called on duty (Navy) to Kuwait, so the gauges won't be made till after summer.... Well this sucks because I ordered one from RRE and now I can't get it by tomorrow...(I really don' like their system of notification).

So anyone have a good alternative? Corbin, do you sell your gauge pre-made? I am clueless when it comes to electronics.

I do not want to be running around with a brand new turbosystem and having no idea if I'm running too lean. (the EGT will help)

Thanks again,

-Jeff
HRC Super 16G on the way!

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Actually, I'm building another one right now...its yours if you want it. Price is $52 (includes shipping). Write me an e-mail if you want it.


Corbin
'95 ESI-T
HRC + FMIC
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Corbin
'97 GSX dressed like a '95 ESi

You don't want to put the probe after the cat, you want it close to the turbo. Just tap it into the DP section that comes with the kit. I did mine after it was on the car so I could make sure the probe had room to get in (around all the hoses)

Yeap...alot of people complain about that probe. You would have been better off with the Westach or Autometer 5244. I've got the 5244...its only 3/16" wide and reacts very quickly...of course its not cheap either ($100).


Corbin
'95 ESI-T
HRC + FMIC
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Corbin
'97 GSX dressed like a '95 ESi

Oops, I meant to say put the probe in the dp after the turbo, not the cat. typo.

Corbin I'm sending you an email right now.

-Jeff
HRC Super 16G will be on the car 4/21

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