I am thinking about purchasing a Howell 2.0L built short block as it is time for built internals. Can I use a 2.2L Howell stroker short block w/ my HRC stage II? Would this give me much more power? Will everything bolt right up?

1. Good plan.

2. yes.

3. yes.

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I'm sure you will be happy with this setup, but if you want to hear about some things to double check on the block so you don't get near as pissed off as I did, hit me up on e-mail. I have the 2.0 Howell block in my car right now.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

So I would have no problems installing a 2.2L Howell short block in my 99 ecllipse? Would I need to do any motifications or would it just bolt right in? Thanks for the help.

It is the same block as the one you have in your car right now, only the howell one has a stroker kit in it. It will bolt right up exactly the way yer stock one is. If you go that route, I would suggest sealing off the freeze plugs in the oil passages on the timing belt and clutch sides of the block. Mine leaked and I had to pull the tranny out and take all the timing belt crap off just to fix oil leaks.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

seal off the freeze plugs with what? So you have a howell 2.2L in your car? What kind of power increases do you get from the 2.2 instead of the 2.0L? Is it worth it?

I sealed them off with an epoxy sorta like JB weld, but better from what I was told by multiple smart people. I coated em pretty good around the edges... I dont EVER wanna fix those stupid things again haha.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

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so those were the problems you had putting on the howell block? anymore problems, I was thinking of this route.

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Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

sounds good, what is your email, like I said I'm planning on going this route. I would like to know what lies ahead.

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97' grey gs/Greddy EVO catback/Greddy header/AEM cai/afx udp/dropped on 2" sprints

Just wondering..

Why are people getting the 2.2L when they can get the 2.4L?

Remember, there is no replacement for displacment ...

Won't you get alot more power out the 2.4L as compared to the 2.2L?

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#1 reason would be that the 2.2 is a direct drop-in.

2.4 requires a lot of extra work, which is why only 1 2gnt 2.4 swap is complete, and 1 has been "in the works" for a while.

the neon guys have kits to adapt their mounts to the 2.4, we're on are own. it can be done, but the 2.2 is a 2.0 block w/ a stroker kit, so no extra work has to be done

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Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...