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IrfanJan-02-02 12:53 PM
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#12991, "anyone get turbo timer to work with alarm?"


          

i was trying the canadian dsm mod, but i couldnt get the harnesses off at the fuse panel (B49 and i think B66? in the instructions). do i just yank at the wires or is there a button or clip to pull it off. i tugged at the wires but i felt i woudl maybe rip them out. there isnt any room to get grip on the harness. how did you guys get it off. thanks.

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Answer..., TeamJasonESi_T, Jan-03-02 03:28 AM, #1
RE: Answer..., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-03-02 03:45 AM, #2
RE: Answer..., Irfan, Jan-03-02 06:27 AM, #3
RE: Answer..., Avenger EST, Jan-06-02 06:26 PM, #4
      RE: Answer..., koolade9, Jan-06-02 06:56 PM, #5
           RE: Answer..., Avenger EST, Jan-07-02 12:13 PM, #6
RE: anyone get turbo timer to work with alarm?, Dave_FL, Jan-08-02 01:03 PM, #7

TeamJasonESi_TJan-03-02 03:28 AM
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Yes, this question was answered here:

http://63.99.108.81/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=1751&forum=DCForumID16

Mike at RRE will better be able to explain the fix to you over the phone but apparently he has dealt with this problem. (courtesy of Talon Archives)
>The relay gives the TT priority to count down, then lets the alarm
>takes over. I am not too inclined electronically, so I have them supplied
>the relay instead of building one from scratch. They have included a clear
>diagram for installation. And obviously I let someone do the work
>professionally for me.

The way we are doing it is to use a normaly closed relay to interupt power
to the "Gauges" fuse on the fuse block by your left foot. This is where the
ETAS-ECU gets its power supply from. The GReddy Turbo Timers have
a grey wire that gives a ground output while counting down. Use this wire
to trigger the relay.

Unplug the gauges fuse and plug in an in-line fuse holder that runs to #30
on the relay. Then run a wire from #87A on the relay back to the the the
where the factory fuse was. Jump a wire from # 30 on the relay to #85 on
the relay. Then run a wire from #86 on the relay to the grey wire on the
GReddy Turbo Timer.

Thats it. No pulling out the radio, no cutting wires in the dash. Best of all
your cooling fan still runs while the timer is counting down. All the other
methods I have seen don't allow the fan to run, including the way HKS
recommends to do it. I have no idea if this is applicable to HKS TT's.
We sell pre-made harnesses for $20, but it is so easy you might as
well do it your self.

>I would like to
>put together a FAQ for having a turbo timer and after-market alarm.
>How to wire it up yourself, what combinations work well, etc.

If your car has an aftermarket alarm system it gets even easier.
Look at the wiring coming off of the ignition switch. you will usually notice
one wire that has been tapped into. Confirm that it is the ignition wire with
a test light. You will need to remove this added-on alarm signal wire from
the ignition wire, and instead tap it into the accessory wire (blue wire).
Use a test light to locate the accessory wire. This will allow the alarm to
set and the doors to lock & unlock with the ignition key but not the turbo
timer. The alarm now thinks the car is off when the accessory circut goes
dead.

Everyone that has had a turbo timer installed by wiring directly instead of
using a vehicle specific harness check to be sure that your fan (IGN 2) is
working while the timer is counting down. The whole point is to let the motor
cool down. Too many honda disco shops are hacking things wrong.

Mike W
Road/Race Engineering

http://207.154.72.181/archives/m/1998/03/19980317.txt/38.html

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Jason ESi-T

04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

  

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneJan-03-02 03:45 AM
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#12993, "RE: Answer..."
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I found a similar explaination on lightningmotorsports.com..

http://www.lightningmotorsports.com/techmwa.htm

Has a nice diagram, too. Don't think it's the exact same method as described above, but i didn't look as closely, as i don't have a harness for my timer yet.


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IrfanJan-03-02 06:27 AM
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#12994, "RE: Answer..."
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well the canadian dsm mod http://ca.dsm.org/FAQ/2gtt-faq.html seems to be simple enough, i just need to know if you just tug at the wires to get the harness off the fuseblock/wiring area, or if there is a clip or somethign that i cant see, because id rather not rip out the wires

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Drove: 1999 Saab 9-5 SE
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Avenger ESTJan-06-02 06:26 PM
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#12995, "RE: Answer..."
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this is AWESOME. this post contained stuff I absolutely DID NOT KNOW!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to do this as soon as I get back home!!!!! this is GREAT

bring it on............

A.D.P.
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bring it on...........

  

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koolade9Jan-06-02 06:56 PM
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#12996, "RE: Answer..."
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question.....


our accessory is blue/black... and our car doesn't have second ignition.... I'd say just put on remote start and use a pulse timer to turn it on when the key is pulled, and kill the R/S after 90 seconds.

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accessory in 96+ cars at least is solid blue. 2nd ignition is blue/black(loses power when ignition is turned in the "start position"). ignition 1 is black wiht white stripe (keps power when igniton is in start position).



bring it on............

>question.....
>
>
>our accessory is blue/black... and our car doesn't have
>second ignition.... I'd say just put on remote start and
>use a pulse timer to turn it on when the key is pulled, and
>kill the R/S after 90 seconds.

A.D.P.
"...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
bring it on...........

  

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Dave_FLJan-08-02 01:03 PM
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#12998, "RE: anyone get turbo timer to work with alarm?"
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I hate electronic stuf in cars. I am going to get an alarm but I dont have a turbo timer to worry about. I cool the oil the old fashion way by sitting in the car and waiting.

Dave
05 Ford F150 SuperCrew FX4

  

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