LAST EDITED ON 13-Oct-01 AT 09:59 AM (PST)

ok, here's the deal. the shop where i got a lot of my parts does a lot of turbo stuff. they just did an s2000. makes over 320hp to the wheels. (they have a dyno in their shop too). basically they said it would be 4300$ for a custom setup (includes everything but the gauges, huge fmic etc.) every kit they design for that particular car, so they don't use the same parts everytime, just whatever is "the best." i would also get some dyno runs out of this, and it would be tuned after installation.

what do you guys think? personally (no offence to the star people out there) i like the hrc kit better just b/c of the fact its backed/made by more reputable people. i trust this shop, and i could probably get some knocked off the price, maybe help out w/ the installation or whatever. and it would be a perfect fit and everything, no having to cut this and this rubbing that etc. but still, its about 1000$ more than the hrc w/ fmic. i'm at an impass.

aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit

-bryan
'98 rst

I think you should go with HRC because its tested/proven and also there support backing it up from the company, and its cheaper.

Evan
97 Eclipse GS
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com

Evan B
02 Explorer
97 GS- sold
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com

Well if you got the money and want to spend it on a product yet to be built, then go for it. If they are willing to give your car the TLC that it needs with this type of application then go for it. Ask your self some questions: Are they a reputable shop that you can trust? Do you know anybody that has gone to them and had problems? Are they willing to give you some sort of tech support after the install of this kit?

Try and do some research on the shop. Ask them as much questions as possible. But if you do end up getting any kit hook me up with your header!! I need one!!!!


Mod List:
-NGK BKR5E-11 Plugs
-Magnecore 8.5 Wires
-AEM CAI(thanx to endless73)
-GS-T Muffler
-Upper Front Strut Bar

no more 420A

only 4G63

here's some more info. i just called the shop back and here is what they do. its a t3/t4 turbo, they would take the specifics of my engine, call turbonetics and have them make a custom application for my car. its a deltagate external wastgate (i think thats what he said) greddy type s bov, cas manifold made in house, spearco core intercooler (the biggest size that'll possible fit in the front of my car) and all the pipes are mandrel bent. and they dyno the car before and after, AND tune it afterwards.

they are a very good shop, i've gotten most of my parts there, the only problem i had was in the very beginning when i didn't know them well they scratched one of my rims on accident, but fixed it no charge w/o much hastle.

also, they would be there for tech support (and physical support) if anything goes wrong. like he said on the phone when i called him back, i wouldn't be dealing w/ someone on the phone somewhere across the u.s. etc. so i told him i'm shooting for around xmas time.

and yeah, i'll be looking for buyers for my AEM CAI and GREDDY 4-1 headers.

aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit

-bryan
'98 rst

lol, you just described a STAR kit:)




chris
blitzdsm1@aol.com

STAR Turbo stage II
180whp @ 5psi(untuned)

LOL, you're right dsm1! You just described the Star Stage 2 kit...which is cool because I want the Stage 1 Kit

Logic3
-1999 RS NSW
-logic3@webspawner.com
-Clean as Hell and No Rice
-Mods:
Iceman||Greddy 4-1 Header||Greddy SP Cat-Back||AFX UDP||Magnecore 8.5mm Plug Wires||NGK Plugs(hotter)||Susupension Technique Springs||RRE Rear Camber Kit||Front and Rear Upper Sturt Bars||Konig Rated-R 17x7(white)||Falken GRB 225/45 Tires
All Motor or Turbo...hmmmm

_________________
James

hmmm, I wonder if these guys were gonna buy a STAR stage 2 for 2600 bux from some place and sell it to you for 4k.....man I hope you don't get bent over!




chris
blitzdsm1@aol.com

STAR Turbo stage II
180whp @ 5psi(untuned)

LAST EDITED ON 13-Oct-01 AT 04:01 PM (PST)

i trust them (the shop)...i'm almost positive that that is what they charge for everyone, civics to tegs to eclipses, its the same they charged for the s2000 they did...so i get the kit, the dyno's, the tuning, and the checkup's if anything goes wrong, etc. they usually charge 125$ per hour for tuning on the dyno. expensive as hell. either way, i'm thinking of going this route. i seriously would have issues w/ buying a star kit. everything i read about the whole star everything leaves things to be desired.

ps they're installing it too, which they said would take about a week (installing, getting everything setup right, making sure its perfect, etc).

aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit

-bryan
'98 rst

pss "IF" i got the star system i would want it with all the extra's, which would be more than 2600$

i'm just brainstorming here. i'll be back online later tonite.

aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit

-bryan
'98 rst

Everything you've heard about the star kit is not true, 90% coming from people who dont have one.


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95 Talon 420A-Turbo
Former and future nitrous user

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klassic_liven@yahoo.com

Okay guys, How much does it cost to install and tune a turbo? He may be paying $2600 for the star and then the rest is install and tuning.

Find out what Fuel system you are gonna have with this custom turbo kit. This is probably the MOST important thing on a custom turbo kit. Don't have enough fuel and your engine won't want to keep the rods inside the block anymore.

You also may want to see if they will give you any references for their work. If they won't give you someone's name or number that you can talk to, it may not be a good thing. Most shops that do work like that are gonna be happy to give you some references so you can check their work on another car.



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All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

i'm going to talk to the guy w/ the s2000 (my dad has one and he wants to see it too, hehe). but yeh, thanks for the advice, i'll let people know what i do...it's still a little ways away.

aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit

-bryan
'98 rst

Turbo install's from me are anywhere from $500-$800 and tunning is done on Dyno for an additional $150 and hour(est needed is 2 hrs). Of coaurse only a deal if you live close to me (south Fl)

Here is what I have have.
JE 8:8.1 with rings boared .20 over
Seinze custom rods (600+hp)
Knife edged and shaved crank
Clevite bearings
Shaved oil pump to bump up oil preasure
Stage 3 ported and pollished head
twin Accel coil packs
PT lashers
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