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datdude_enzoOct-18-09 02:47 PM
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#107329, "420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"




          

hey i have a question i am running a 420a turbo with eagle rods n JE piston setup how many pounds can i runnin saftley to beat the hatch he running 10pis on a stock gsr motor should i pull from a digg or a roll to beat him n at wat psi i should i runn

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RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Hedge, Oct-18-09 03:05 PM, #1
RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, hazard_eclipse, Oct-18-09 06:36 PM, #2
RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, datdude_enzo, Oct-18-09 10:59 PM, #3
      RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Moderatorcs82685, Oct-19-09 04:52 AM, #4
           RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Moderatorteklein, Oct-19-09 05:50 AM, #5
                RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, djtrickee, Oct-19-09 09:31 AM, #6
                     RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, RoninEclipse2G, Oct-19-09 10:20 AM, #7
RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Fallen4ng31, Oct-19-09 10:26 AM, #8
RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, datdude_enzo, Oct-19-09 11:34 AM, #9
      RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Fallen4ng31, Oct-19-09 12:54 PM, #10
      RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Moderatorbullettdsm, Oct-19-09 01:24 PM, #11
           RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Raine883, Oct-19-09 02:26 PM, #12
                RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, hazard_eclipse, Oct-19-09 06:27 PM, #13
                     RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Flipboi89, Oct-19-09 06:29 PM, #14
                          RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, hazard_eclipse, Oct-19-09 06:48 PM, #15
                               RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Hedge, Oct-19-09 08:51 PM, #16
                                    RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, datdude_enzo, Oct-19-09 09:22 PM, #17
                                    RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, Tuxdreamerx, Oct-23-09 12:20 AM, #18
                                         RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, nicho919, Oct-23-09 07:00 AM, #19
                                              RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, datdude_enzo, Oct-27-09 12:47 PM, #20
                                                   RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, clipse97, Oct-27-09 06:25 PM, #21
                                                        RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-28-09 02:18 PM, #22
                                                        RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi, RoninEclipse2G, Oct-28-09 02:54 PM, #23

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#107330, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Oct-18-09 03:07 PM by Hedge



          

well first off, you should race him at a track. and if your not going to do that you shouldnt race him at all.

second, which im not sure i even want to ask because nobody here will give you a ligit anwser because its pretty obvious your planning on racing on the streetm, which is stupid. but what is your fuel system like?

And this is in the wrong section, i didnt see that when i posted this.

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hazard_eclipseOct-18-09 06:36 PM
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#107331, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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not that I'm supporting what you're trying to do on the street, but how much boost you can run safely now, since you already have forged internals, depends very heavily on how much boost your fuel system can support. you can crank up the boost a decent amount above 10psi as long as your fuel system can follow and not make you run lean. running 15 or so psi will probably make that low torque POS GSR motor see nothing but tail lights in any condition.

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#107332, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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yes its at the track and i am running 255 walbro pump. so 15 to 20 puonds would be safe on that motor with no head work i should spank him right now next question is from a roll or a digg cuz were both front wheel drive but he's lighter so he may have the jump on me by a bumper ...idk wat do u gus think

P.S. i not dumb to get me car taken from from me over a run my car is my baby ...
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#107333, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by datdude_enzo
yes its at the track and i am running 255 walbro pump. so 15 to 20 puonds would be safe on that motor with no head work i should spank him right now next question is from a roll or a digg cuz were both front wheel drive but he's lighter so he may have the jump on me by a bumper ...idk wat do u gus think P.S. i not dumb to get me car taken from from me over a run my car is my baby ... 2 ligit 2 quit


first off, jesus christ, learn how to speak english. And what track are you running at that you can run from a roll? You're going to need more than a 255 pump to run boost. What does your fuel system consist of? Injector size? What do you have to adjust your fuel, etc................. Sounds like you bought this car boosted and don't know the first thing about it.


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#107334, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by datdude_enzo yes its at the track and i am running 255 walbro pump. so 15 to 20 puonds would be safe on that motor with no head work i should spank him right now next question is from a roll or a digg cuz were both front wheel drive but he's lighter so he may have the jump on me by a bumper ...idk wat do u gus think P.S. i not dumb to get me car taken from from me over a run my car is my baby ... 2 ligit 2 quit
first off, jesus christ, learn how to speak english. And what track are you running at that you can run from a roll? You're going to need more than a 255 pump to run boost. What does your fuel system consist of? Injector size? What do you have to adjust your fuel, etc................. Sounds like you bought this car boosted and don't know the first thing about it.


Hes 2 legit 2 quit.

  

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#107335, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by teklein
Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by datdude_enzo yes its at the track and i am running 255 walbro pump. so 15 to 20 puonds would be safe on that motor with no head work i should spank him right now next question is from a roll or a digg cuz were both front wheel drive but he's lighter so he may have the jump on me by a bumper ...idk wat do u gus think P.S. i not dumb to get me car taken from from me over a run my car is my baby ... 2 ligit 2 quit
first off, jesus christ, learn how to speak english. And what track are you running at that you can run from a roll? You're going to need more than a 255 pump to run boost. What does your fuel system consist of? Injector size? What do you have to adjust your fuel, etc................. Sounds like you bought this car boosted and don't know the first thing about it.
Hes 2 legit 2 quit.


He should quit.

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#107336, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by djtrickee
Originally posted by teklein
Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by datdude_enzo yes its at the track and i am running 255 walbro pump. so 15 to 20 puonds would be safe on that motor with no head work i should spank him right now next question is from a roll or a digg cuz were both front wheel drive but he's lighter so he may have the jump on me by a bumper ...idk wat do u gus think P.S. i not dumb to get me car taken from from me over a run my car is my baby ... 2 ligit 2 quit
first off, jesus christ, learn how to speak english. And what track are you running at that you can run from a roll? You're going to need more than a 255 pump to run boost. What does your fuel system consist of? Injector size? What do you have to adjust your fuel, etc................. Sounds like you bought this car boosted and don't know the first thing about it.
Hes 2 legit 2 quit.
He should quit.


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#107337, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by datdude_enzo
hey i have a question i am running a 420a turbo with eagle rods n JE piston setup how many pounds can i runnin saftley to beat the hatch he running 10pis on a stock gsr motor should i pull from a digg or a roll to beat him n at wat psi i should i runn


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#107338, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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okay here we go again, obliviously I just started out. I have done my homework on turbo applications and was just asking for advice in certain situations to piece the puzzle together, remember i wasn't born with the knowledge on how to build a 420a so therefore cut me some slack, what you should be doing is guiding me the right way to become a tuner not a ricer

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#107339, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Oct-19-09 12:56 PM by Fallen4ng31



          

Originally posted by datdude_enzo

obliviously I just started out.


We can tell, you sound oblivious... Learn to type like an adult, as opposed to some ghetto hood rat, and you'll find that the members here will be far more willing to assist you.

All that aside, if you want help, you'll need tell us what you have under the hood, aside from a built block. You could have the strongest internals in the world, but without the proper fuel and spark, you're just going to blow it up.

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#107340, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by Hedge
And this is in the wrong section

Yeah, when I saw the title I was inclined to put this right into racing section. Then as I read, I thought it should really go in the Pits. Then as I read more I thought it might be appropriate to go into the Turbo section. Then I read more and thought it was turning into a flame out thread. Then as I read more, I figured what the hell, just leave it here, lol......

OP, one of the problems, as pointed out, was the thought of street racing; doesn't go over well on here.

The other problem is your first post was...well..Paul kinda pointed it out best;

Originally posted by Fallen4ng31
type like an adult, as opposed to some ghetto hood rat, and you'll find that the members here will be far more willing to assist you.


I can see the attempt here for a cleaner concept flow and grammatical correctness (its a start);

Originally posted by datdude_enzo
okay here we go again, obliviously I just started out. I have done my homework on turbo applications and was just asking for advice in certain situations to piece the puzzle together, remember i wasn't born with the knowledge on how to build a 420a so therefore cut me some slack, what you should be doing is guiding me the right way to become a tuner not a ricer


With that being said, it would be best to answer this request;

Originally posted by Fallen4ng31
you'll need tell us what you have under the hood, aside from a built block. You could have the strongest internals in the world, but without the proper fuel and spark, you're just going to blow it up.


And please tell us which turbo you are refering to. Boost is not a measurement of horsepower. 20lbs on a 14b does not equal 20lbs on a GT42r.

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#107342, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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The easiest way to find out is to race him, but if you are actually doing this on a track is it really worth paying for track time just to find out whos got the bigger dick?

Why did i turbo a 420a? Why is your 4g63 smoking in a ditch?

  

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#107343, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by datdude_enzo
i am running 255 walbro pump. so 15 to 20 pounds would be safe on that motor


oi... i say fuel system, he says fuel pump. does anyone see a problem here? fuel injectors, fuel pressure, fuel management. these are the things we need here. getting sufficient fuel to the fuel rail is step one out of many. bets on motor longevity anyone?

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#107344, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Damn hondas so fast.

As above whats your fuel (system)?



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#107345, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by Flipboi89
Damn hondas so fast.


heh I've beaten Hondas in a minivan.

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#107346, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by hazard_eclipse
Originally posted by Flipboi89 Damn hondas so fast.
heh I've beaten Hondas in a minivan.

and ive lost to minivans in a talon lol emoji

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#107347, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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255 walbro fuel pump
Bell engineering fuel regulator
Stock fuel rail
T3T4 turbonectics 60 trim turbo.
I dont remember my injector size but what would be the best size CC's for this setup?
Thats all. Cut me some slack on the whole novice thing, this car was trial and error, my frist turbo'd vehicle.

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#107352, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Oct-23-09 12:25 AM by Tuxdreamerx



          

Originally posted by Hedge
Originally posted by hazard_eclipse
Originally posted by Flipboi89 Damn hondas so fast.
heh I've beaten Hondas in a minivan.
and ive lost to minivans in a talon lol emoji


Now now no street racing emoji I don't see minivans at the track very often, so when were YOU racing a minivan lol.

To the OP, I can see a attempt at making your sentences better. I am not the best at sentence structures and such but I like to believe mine are easy to read and understand.

As far as your setup as mentioned above the amount of boost you can run is going to depend on your setup. I am also in the process of my first turbo build and its quite a bit of work and research.

Use the search function as much as possible and it will be your friend. I have found that 90% of questions I want to ask have been answered.

Have fun and enjoy your PSSSHH sounds.

  

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#107353, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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I've seen loads of minivans at the track, some running 10s. They're very popular, because most of them get away FAST. As for the OP.... dude, either A, stop watching street fire and reading kill forums, or stop street racing. You don't race from a roll at any track other than a circuit, and if you're on a circuit, boost isn't really going to be all that critical unless it's a circle track.


In conclusion, leave the racing to the track. If you don't understand how a drag strip works, go watch. A lot. If you don't understand the basics of drag racing, your friend will dust you on wastegate boost.

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#107388, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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I beat him by 2 cars. But his launch was better I have to work on that. My 60 footer was to horrible to even mention emoji Next step poly mounts to control wheel hop.
Thanks!

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#107391, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by datdude_enzo
I beat him by 2 cars. But his launch was better I have to work on that. My 60 footer was to horrible to even mention emoji Next step poly mounts to control wheel hop. Thanks!
do u have an lsd?

  

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#107397, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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#107398, "RE: 420a vs gsr turbo non built running 10psi"
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Originally posted by clipse97
Originally posted by datdude_enzo I beat him by 2 cars. But his launch was better I have to work on that. My 60 footer was to horrible to even mention emoji Next step poly mounts to control wheel hop. Thanks!
do u have an lsd?


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