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ModeratortekleinSep-24-09 11:35 AM
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#107209, "14B Rebuild"
Sep-24-09 02:12 PM by teklein

          

Hey,

Just wanted some opinions on this:

I was given a 14B.

The 14B needs to be rebuilt. I have read several things, and all tend to agree that the MHI 14B is component balanced.

There are several write ups on how to rebuild, and the kit is 60 dollars. Doesnt require any special tools and anyone with basic knowledge could do it.

Setup will be: 14B, Supra SMIC, Accel 270cc injectors, and a SFMU among other things. Basic, safe, 5psi setup.

Just wanted some opinions, so opinion up!

  

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RE: 14B Rebuild, Moderatorbullettdsm, Sep-24-09 02:46 PM, #1
RE: 14B Rebuild, Moderatorteklein, Sep-24-09 03:43 PM, #2
      RE: 14B Rebuild, barza21, Sep-24-09 05:19 PM, #3
           RE: 14B Rebuild, TeamDR1665, Sep-24-09 05:37 PM, #4
                RE: 14B Rebuild, Moderatorteklein, Sep-24-09 06:15 PM, #5
                RE: 14B Rebuild, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Sep-24-09 06:34 PM, #6
                     RE: 14B Rebuild, SilvrEclips, Sep-27-09 09:50 PM, #7
                RE: 14B Rebuild, RoninEclipse2G, Sep-24-09 06:52 PM, #8
                     RE: 14B Rebuild, Moderatorteklein, Sep-24-09 07:03 PM, #9
                          RE: 14B Rebuild, 420agreenvilleSC, Sep-24-09 09:30 PM, #10
                               RE: 14B Rebuild, Moderatorteklein, Sep-24-09 09:37 PM, #11

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#107211, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by teklein
Just wanted some opinions, so opinion up!

Um, Daffy Duck is funnier than Buggs Bunny. That's my opinion























Opinions on what?

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ModeratortekleinSep-24-09 03:43 PM
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#107212, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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LOL!

Thanks Mark emoji

Opinion on rebuilding the turbo myself.

  

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#107213, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Do it!!! It's a good learning experience. Let me know how it goes, that way I can go with that set up myself and have a little fun for now!!!

I wish I had blown it, believe me, I do...

  

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#107214, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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I've helped rebuild a 16G before. It's not as scary as you might think. Meticulously organize your workspace as you go. Maybe start with the turbo in the middle and start lining up compressor bits to the left and turbine bits to the right. Keep things in order.

Keep things clean too. It's been a while, but I recall simply replacing old bits with new ones during reassembly. One snag we rant into (which was more scare than anything else), we used a sharpie marker to mark things as we took them apart (orientation, clocking, et al). But when we used brake cleaner to clean things before reassembly... DOH!

Free turbo. $60 rebuild kit. A couple hours of your time. Quality.

I'm growing less and less inclined to install any turbo larger than a 16G these days (no point for much other than swinging dicks on a dyno or *yawn* drag racing), but a 16G, while versatile, starts upwards of $400. You could build your entire turbo kit for that amount. emoji

  

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#107215, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by DR1665
I've helped rebuild a 16G before. It's not as scary as you might think. Meticulously organize your workspace as you go. Maybe start with the turbo in the middle and start lining up compressor bits to the left and turbine bits to the right. Keep things in order. Keep things clean too. It's been a while, but I recall simply replacing old bits with new ones during reassembly. One snag we rant into (which was more scare than anything else), we used a sharpie marker to mark things as we took them apart (orientation, clocking, et al). But when we used brake cleaner to clean things before reassembly... DOH! Free turbo. $60 rebuild kit. A couple hours of your time. Quality. I'm growing less and less inclined to install any turbo larger than a 16G these days (no point for much other than swinging dicks on a dyno or *yawn* drag racing), but a 16G, while versatile, starts upwards of $400. You could build your entire turbo kit for that amount. emoji


Yup!

Thanks Driggsy.

Plus, I want power out of turns, a 14B at 5psi would be pretty instant spool.

And safe!

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-24-09 06:34 PM
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#107216, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Even though its component balenced, use a sharpie to mark the Compressor wheel and shaft so that you put them back on in the same manner. It may seem useless but its a little bit of insurance in case the people you are listening to (via the Web) are full of shit.

  

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#107223, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Even though its component balenced, use a sharpie to mark the Compressor wheel and shaft so that you put them back on in the same manner. It may seem useless but its a little bit of insurance in case the people you are listening to (via the Web) are full of shit.


Do this and you wont ever have to worry. I have rebuilt a couple turbos and never had a problem with premature failure. I have been running a turbo I mixed components with for almost a year with no problems so far.

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#107217, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by DR1665
Meticulously organize your workspace as you go.


You didn't see the pics in his thread about doing mandy's headgasket did you.

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#107218, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Even though its component balenced, use a sharpie to mark the Compressor wheel and shaft so that you put them back on in the same manner. It may seem useless but its a little bit of insurance in case the people you are listening to (via the Web) are full of shit.


Awesome Terry, will do. Thanks emoji

Originally posted by RoninEclipse2G
Originally posted by DR1665 Meticulously organize your workspace as you go.
You didn't see the pics in his thread about doing mandy's headgasket did you.


Haha! Box lids and Ziplocs are your friend!

  

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#107219, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by DR1665
Meticulously organize your workspace as you go.


if erik didnt quote driggs, i was going to. if being meticulous is required, tim is the MF'n MAN AT THAT

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#107220, "RE: 14B Rebuild"
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Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC
Originally posted by DR1665 Meticulously organize your workspace as you go.
if erik didnt quote driggs, i was going to. if being meticulous is required, tim is the MF'n MAN AT THAT


Haha!

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Me: Hold on.
Mikey: Are you putting shit in Ziploc bags AGAIN!?
Me: Yes, STFU.

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