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rettezJan-06-08 11:32 AM
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#102379, "AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"




          

Hi guys, greetings from México!
Before of nothing, i'm want say... Cool Site!! i have 2 days readings your forums, and i'm learning too much!!!
My name is Gonzalo, i'm from Sonora,Mexico and my car is 95 Eclipse GS 5spd, Project turbo kit custom

weel, the question is, wich wideband? AEM or Zeitronix?
My setup is

Walbro 255LPH
Stock Injectors
OBX FMU 12:1 (i think)
Garrett T3 Turbo
Manifold custom

i'm wait running with 5-6 psi, but i think, the wastegate of this turbo are configurated @ 7 psi or more.
So, i'm need a wideband, but, wich? AEM or Zeitronix?

one more question, i need a EGT gauge?

Cheers!

  

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RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-06-08 11:44 AM, #1
RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 11:48 AM, #2
      RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 11:54 AM, #3
           RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, foggy45, Jan-06-08 02:44 PM, #4
                RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-06-08 02:54 PM, #5
                     RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, justins71, Jan-06-08 03:00 PM, #6
                          RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 04:18 PM, #7
                          RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-06-08 04:28 PM, #9
                          RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, lild14, Jan-06-08 04:20 PM, #8
                               RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 04:33 PM, #10
                                    RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 04:39 PM, #11
                                         RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-06-08 05:06 PM, #12
                                              RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 05:15 PM, #13
                                                   RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-06-08 05:26 PM, #14
                                                        RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 05:31 PM, #15
                                                             RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-06-08 05:38 PM, #16
                                                             RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 05:44 PM, #18
                                                                  RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-07-08 09:46 AM, #20
                                                             RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, rettez, Jan-06-08 05:39 PM, #17
                                                                  RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, djtrickee, Jan-07-08 06:07 AM, #19
                                                                       RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, lild14, Jan-07-08 01:41 PM, #21
                                                                            RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-07-08 05:52 PM, #22

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#102381, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Can't go wrong with either wideband. They both give an acurate A/F ratio necessary to get a good tune. Flip a coil?

7psi is fine.

Some are running 10psi on stock internals with high octane pump gas without problems.


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rettezJan-06-08 11:48 AM
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#102382, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by 2GeclipseRS
Can't go wrong with either wideband. They both give an acurate A/F ratio necessary to get a good tune. Flip a coil? 7psi is fine. Some are running 10psi on stock internals with high octane pump gas without problems.


i have an A/F Ratio gauge Autometer, but i'm not want read lights, is safe this gauge on my setup? so, i don't need Wideband ?

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95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
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rettezJan-06-08 11:54 AM
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#102384, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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ahhhh it's ok!!! i'm not understand
you want say AEM or Zeitronix, it's the same? no problem if i'm buy AEM Wideband Uego ! Thank's for reply!

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95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102387, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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to keep a good eye on your engine you should really get an EGT gauge.
especially when it comes to tuning fuel pressures and timing.

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#102388, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Jan-06-08 02:54 PM by cs82685



          

I really don't think you can go wrong with the aem or the zeitronix. Personally I have the zeitronix and LOVE it. If you want to hold off on the wideband, a narrowband and an egt gauge can help you monitor enough to hopefully save you when there's real trouble (it has for me in the past) however, I would just get the zeitronix and get the egt probe with it.

BTW welcome to the site.


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EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
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#102389, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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I have the AEM UEGO and am not too happy with it since I got Megasquirt. The gauge itself is awesome, but lately it's been switching output settings on it's own, despite the dial settings on the back. smacking it sometimes or pulling on the wiring at other times straightens it out. Really sux when it's outputting on a NB scale, then my EGO leans the hell out of it.

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FMIC, diy piping & RFL BOV
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JE 8.8:1 dish w/ Hastings Rings
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rettezJan-06-08 04:18 PM
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#102392, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Ok. the better way is the Zeitronix Zt-2
how much the Zeitronix $$$ ? and Where can I buy it?
Because on eBay i can't find the Zeitronix !!

Thanks to all for your replies! Cheers!
P.D. Happy New year!!

-----------------------------------
95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102394, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Jan-06-08 04:29 PM by cs82685



          

Originally posted by rettez
Ok. the better way is the Zeitronix Zt-2 how much the Zeitronix $$$ ? and Where can I buy it? Because on eBay i can't find the Zeitronix !! Thanks to all for your replies! Cheers! P.D. Happy New year!!


you can buy direct from zeitronix.com

I got my basic setup from there, then got my boost sensor and display from ttp-engineering.com and their service was very quick. I don't think you can go wrong with either but I do believe ttp is a little bit cheaper than zeitronix


I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

  

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#102393, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Zeitronix FTW. 02, Boost, and Egt readings...data logging...need i say more?

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rettezJan-06-08 04:33 PM
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#102396, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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this is?

Zt-2 Wideband Controller and Datalogging System
Cut your tuning time in half!
Includes the Zt-2 Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Meter, Wideband Oxygen Sensor, Sensor Harness, Signal Harness, PC Serial Cable, Datalogging Software, Installation Instructions and 2 pin EGT connector to retrofit your EGT probe. Made in the USA

$279 dlls

wow, very interesting, but, comes without gauges? because i don't see gauges on this product, or, how works it?
Thanks!!

-----------------------------------
95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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rettezJan-06-08 04:39 PM
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#102398, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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I feel that this is very advanced for my setup :S

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95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102399, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by rettez
this is? Zt-2 Wideband Controller and Datalogging System Cut your tuning time in half! Includes the Zt-2 Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Meter, Wideband Oxygen Sensor, Sensor Harness, Signal Harness, PC Serial Cable, Datalogging Software, Installation Instructions and 2 pin EGT connector to retrofit your EGT probe. Made in the USA $279 dlls wow, very interesting, but, comes without gauges? because i don't see gauges on this product, or, how works it? Thanks!!


No gauges with the basic setup, you can use a laptop to view data, or you can spend the extra money and get their display or their new gauge

Originally posted by rettez
I feel that this is very advanced for my setup :S


It kind of is, there's really no tuning you can do anyways, so as long as you have a boost gauge to make sure you don't overboost, and some sort of either narrowband or egt gauge to monitor things you'll probably be ok but your best bet is the zt-2 if you plan any future upgrades to your fuel system/motor/turbo setup


I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

  

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#102400, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Jan-06-08 05:16 PM by rettez



          

jejeje, my idea is runing on a 6-7 + - psi, i'm not want upgrade my setup later, with 6-7 psi i'm very happy!!! but, i'm not sure... wideband or not, what do you thing?
because i'm basing on project of GS Going Fast, and he use a A/F Ratio gauge Autometer, but i feel is not very safe.. i'm confused...
Thanks for your reply!

-----------------------------------
95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102401, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by rettez
jejeje, my idea is runing on a 6-7 + - psi, i'm not want upgrade my setup later, with 6-7 psi i'm very happy!!! but, i'm not sure... wideband or not, what do you thing? because i'm basing on project of GS Going Fast, and he use a A/F Ratio gauge Autometer, but i feel is not very safe.. i'm confused... Thanks for your reply!


THey all say that Having the wideband with egt is definetly the safest bet if you're worried about your motor, but it still isn't bulletproof. Another advantage with the zeitronix is you can set different warnings, too much boost, over a certain a/f ratio at a certain throttle % etc. If you use a laptop for your display, your screen will flash, idk if their gauge or display will flash, but you can also get or make a visible or audible warning light/speaker and wire it up.


I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

  

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#102402, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by rettez jejeje, my idea is runing on a 6-7 + - psi, i'm not want upgrade my setup later, with 6-7 psi i'm very happy!!! but, i'm not sure... wideband or not, what do you thing? because i'm basing on project of GS Going Fast, and he use a A/F Ratio gauge Autometer, but i feel is not very safe.. i'm confused... Thanks for your reply!
THey all say that Having the wideband with egt is definetly the safest bet if you're worried about your motor, but it still isn't bulletproof. Another advantage with the zeitronix is you can set different warnings, too much boost, over a certain a/f ratio at a certain throttle % etc. If you use a laptop for your display, your screen will flash, idk if their gauge or display will flash, but you can also get or make a visible or audible warning light/speaker and wire it up.


i'm not have laptop, so, i have buy gauges or monitor/display right? what is better?

-----------------------------------
95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102403, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Jan-06-08 05:39 PM by cs82685



          

Originally posted by rettez
Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by rettez jejeje, my idea is runing on a 6-7 + - psi, i'm not want upgrade my setup later, with 6-7 psi i'm very happy!!! but, i'm not sure... wideband or not, what do you thing? because i'm basing on project of GS Going Fast, and he use a A/F Ratio gauge Autometer, but i feel is not very safe.. i'm confused... Thanks for your reply!
THey all say that Having the wideband with egt is definetly the safest bet if you're worried about your motor, but it still isn't bulletproof. Another advantage with the zeitronix is you can set different warnings, too much boost, over a certain a/f ratio at a certain throttle % etc. If you use a laptop for your display, your screen will flash, idk if their gauge or display will flash, but you can also get or make a visible or audible warning light/speaker and wire it up.
i'm not have laptop, so, i have buy gauges or monitor/display right? what is better?


The monitor display can show up to four things at once, I don't know if the gauge can do that because it's fairly new and I haven't really looked into it, but the gauge has the advantage of fitting in a standard gauge pod


I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

  

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#102405, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by rettez
Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by rettez jejeje, my idea is runing on a 6-7 + - psi, i'm not want upgrade my setup later, with 6-7 psi i'm very happy!!! but, i'm not sure... wideband or not, what do you thing? because i'm basing on project of GS Going Fast, and he use a A/F Ratio gauge Autometer, but i feel is not very safe.. i'm confused... Thanks for your reply!
THey all say that Having the wideband with egt is definetly the safest bet if you're worried about your motor, but it still isn't bulletproof. Another advantage with the zeitronix is you can set different warnings, too much boost, over a certain a/f ratio at a certain throttle % etc. If you use a laptop for your display, your screen will flash, idk if their gauge or display will flash, but you can also get or make a visible or audible warning light/speaker and wire it up.
i'm not have laptop, so, i have buy gauges or monitor/display right? what is better?
The monitor display can show up to four things at once, I don't know if the gauge can do that because it's fairly new and I haven't really looked into it, but the gauge has the advantage of fitting in a standard gauge pod


sorry i'm not see your post

Ok, the best choice, i think what, is Zeitronix with LCD Display, DAMN!! 399 dlls, + shipping to México !!! Thanks!

P.D. For the installation, you can help me, later??

-----------------------------------
95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102417, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by rettez
P.D. For the installation, you can help me, later??



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#102404, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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i'm ready for waste 399 dlls!, but, what is better?

Zeitronix with multigauge combo or Zeitronix with lcd display?

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95 Eclipse GS+T.. Garrett t3
MEXICAN DSM 420A TURBO! 1/4 mile: 14.830 @ 6 psi 14.725@100 mph .. 9 psi & open pipe TRACTIONLESS
stock inj, stock mounts, 12:1 vortech fmu, bkr7s at .032", 93 oct, walbro 255, stock clutch.. etc

I HATE SR20DE
http://www.youtube.com/rettez

  

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#102414, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by rettez
i'm ready for waste 399 dlls!, but, what is better? Zeitronix with multigauge combo or Zeitronix with lcd display?


Zeitronix with LCD display.

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lild14Jan-07-08 01:41 PM
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#102426, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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get the LCD display especially if you dont have a lap top. It is not difficult to install, just follow the directions. All the wires are color coordinated, easy as painting by numbers

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Moderatorcs82685Jan-07-08 05:52 PM
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#102435, "RE: AEM Wideband or Zeitronix ZT-2 ?"
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Originally posted by lild14
get the LCD display especially if you dont have a lap top. It is not difficult to install, just follow the directions. All the wires are color coordinated, easy as painting by numbers


There's also a nice litte write-up in the wiki

http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Zeitronix%20Wideband%20Install


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