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EclipseRacer95Mar-27-05 04:57 PM
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#8846, "Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"




          

Well ever since i installed my boost guage i have had a CEL. I have also noticed choppy idle and that its hesitant until it hits full boost. I have brought it to a mechanic but they said that it was my guage and they seald off the guage. But light came on like 3 miles down the road. So my question is that i am completely out of ideas. The mechanic ran the code and came up with a vac leak by the FPR. I have checked very hose next to that stupid thing but it still appears. I have also change plugs, wires, valve cover and gasket, and ran some Restore through it. Can some one please help me figure out this problem? Thanks Matt




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RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, TeamJeff_99gs, Mar-28-05 03:53 AM, #1
RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-28-05 05:02 AM, #2
      RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, RST95eclipse, Mar-28-05 07:12 AM, #3
           RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-28-05 10:31 AM, #4
                RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-28-05 10:33 AM, #5
                     RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EvMan2345, Mar-28-05 10:58 AM, #6
                          RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-28-05 04:29 PM, #7
                               RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, 420a-Tnthewerks, Mar-28-05 04:36 PM, #8
                                    RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-28-05 04:43 PM, #9
                                    RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, ModeratoreclipzGST, Mar-28-05 05:38 PM, #10
                                    RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, TeamJeff_99gs, Mar-28-05 05:40 PM, #11
                                         RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, ModeratoreclipzGST, Mar-28-05 08:14 PM, #16
                                    RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, eclipsekaiser, Mar-28-05 05:58 PM, #12
                                         RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, 420a-Tnthewerks, Mar-28-05 06:02 PM, #13
                                              RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-28-05 06:58 PM, #14
                                                   RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, eclipsekaiser, Mar-28-05 08:01 PM, #15
                                                        RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-29-05 07:06 AM, #17
                                                             RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, ModeratoreclipzGST, Mar-29-05 07:58 AM, #18
                                                                  RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, Diceman19, Mar-29-05 08:32 AM, #19
                                                                       RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-29-05 11:17 AM, #20
                                                                            RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!, EclipseRacer95, Mar-30-05 05:18 AM, #21

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#8847, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Remove the gauge and see if it goes away.

  

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#8848, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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The shop that I brought it to did that and I got about 5 miles down the road and the CEL came back on. I am really stumped! Thanks though! Matt




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#8849, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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It might be a vac leak elsewhere. I'd check every vac line you have.

  

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EclipseRacer95Mar-28-05 10:31 AM
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#8850, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Thanks, I ll try looking! Anything I can try? Matt




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EclipseRacer95Mar-28-05 10:33 AM
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#8851, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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I also noticed today that when i unscrewed the cap to fill it with gas, there was alot of air that came out. It sounded like I had big ballon deflating. Any ideas why or is this normal? Matt




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#8852, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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thats pressure within your fuel system. Thats normal...

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EclipseRacer95Mar-28-05 04:29 PM
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#8853, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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I have been doing someresearch and i found that the sock vac is just about at -20psi. My guage reads that the vac at idle is at about -21psi so that would mean that there couldn't be a leak....right? I am really stumped about this problem...i have even thought about getting rid of the car altogether. Any more ideas would be great! Thanks, Matt




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Racing a Honda is like racing in the Special Olympics, even if you win your still retarted!!!!!!!!"

  

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#8854, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Originally posted by EclipseRacer95
I have been doing someresearch and i found that the sock vac is just about at -20psi. My guage reads that the vac at idle is at about -21psi so that would mean that there couldn't be a leak....right? I am really stumped about this problem...i have even thought about getting rid of the car altogether. Any more ideas would be great! Thanks, Matt


My gauge reads about 18-20 vac. 21 may mean there is a leak somewhere in your vaccum hoses... try soapy water.

  

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#8855, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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What do i do with the soapy water.....if there was a leak wouldnt it read less vaccum? Matt




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#8856, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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where exactly is the line tapped for your boost signal?
Is it here?...



Don't mind all the loom and crap. It's all been long gone. I took this pic about a week after I had the car.
The pressure when you take off the gas cap is normal. In fact, if you didn't have the system pressureized, that too would throw a CEL.
I think you either have the tap in the wrong spot or the knocked off/loosened a line by accident.
Don't give up and sell the car so easily, this is a minor issue...


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#8857, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Oh man, I just got a flat tire. Time to sell the entire car.



If something like a little hesitation and a CEL makes you want to sell your car, you shouldn't own it in the first place.

  

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#8858, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Originally posted by Jeff_99gs
Oh man, I just got a flat tire. Time to sell the entire car.


don't sell it dude. You'll make a lot more if you part it out...


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#8859, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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21 mmHg does not means a leak present, In fact it is perfectly healthy and your rings are sealing. I'm willing to bet there isn't even a leak anywhere. How does your idle RPM look like when warmed? And what was the CEL related to?

I have yet to hear a case of Boost gauge install yielding a CEL when performed correctly.

If you had a leak in your vaccum source, your numbers wil be lower (meaning toward zero), and your idle will be higher. Plus you woudl hear it too.

-K-

  

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#8860, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Mar-28-05 06:03 PM by 420a-Tnthewerks



          

Woops, I had a brain fart.

Edit- by the soapy water, I meant put it on the hoses and see if any bubbles come up.

  

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#8861, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Well, my idle fluxuates from about 750-900 back and forth( really shakey). I did take that line for the guage and it seems to be connected pretty good. When I am driving the car it will hesitation until it hits boost and then pull but not as much as it did stock. I just cant figure out this problem. I have owned two DSM and the one I sold also had bad hesitation before I sold it. I followed up on it and the owner of it now had to replace the whole ignition system and still is having problems. I am not in a hurry to sell it, but dont have the money to constantly be fixing petty problems. Thanks for all the help so far! Matt




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Racing a Honda is like racing in the Special Olympics, even if you win your still retarted!!!!!!!!"

  

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#8862, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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For it to idle around 700-900 is pretty normal.

I still want to know why it threw a CEL. That could be the source of your problem.

And Tune-Up?

-K-

  

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EclipseRacer95Mar-29-05 07:06 AM
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#8863, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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I know! Its so fustating! I brought it in to get the codes run and they said that it was a vac leak near the FPR! They took it into their own hands to completely disconnect my boost guage. Well, obviously that didnt work otherwise I wouldnt be posting. But if they said that the codes were from a vac leak....WHERE IS IT!! Could it be a faulty TPS sensor, because I would bet any money that it is still the stock one. Matt




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Racing a Honda is like racing in the Special Olympics, even if you win your still retarted!!!!!!!!"

  

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#8864, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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you could always just ditch all the vaccuum lines and emissions crap.


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Originally posted by Avenger
When I raise the BS flag ... it's a really big fucking flag and I raise it really fucking high too.



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#8865, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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Originally posted by eclipzGST
you could always just ditch all the vaccuum lines and emissions crap.


too easy. everyone likes to search for a needle in a haystack.

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EclipseRacer95Mar-29-05 11:17 AM
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#8866, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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What do you mean.....like take all vac lines off and cap them or replace all the vac lines.......so it can't be a faulty TPS? Matt




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Racing a Honda is like racing in the Special Olympics, even if you win your still retarted!!!!!!!!"

  

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#8867, "RE: Stupid CEL - Sorry Long!"
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How do you check the TPS sensor? Matt




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