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BRU_ceApr-26-05 08:57 AM
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#8665, "Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"


          

My friend just bought a bone stock 1995 TSi AWD. To be quite honest, I thought it would be much faster than it was.. I've never been in a stock GSX but it was kind of dissapointing.

Anyway, he wants to get started on modding it for more power, and while I do have a lot of theoretical knowledge on the 4G63, I don't have much real-world experience, seeing as how I'm a 2GNTer at heart.

From what I know, however, the best place to start would be a full 2.5" turboback exhaust, a boost controller, and a 1G blowoff valve. He's going to stick with the stock T-25 for a while until he can get a 14b (not much better, I know, but still better)

Do you think he'll see a significant power improvement over stock on the butt-dyno with that setup?

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RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BigBald, Apr-26-05 09:09 AM, #1
RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BRU_ce, Apr-26-05 09:14 AM, #2
      RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BigBald, Apr-26-05 09:49 AM, #3
           RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, Silv Blt, Apr-26-05 09:59 AM, #4
                RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BRU_ce, Apr-26-05 10:02 AM, #5
                     RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, RST95eclipse, Apr-26-05 06:59 PM, #6
                          RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, ModeratoreclipzGST, Apr-26-05 08:07 PM, #7
                          RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BigBald, Apr-27-05 03:31 AM, #8
                               RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, Remy, Apr-27-05 10:01 AM, #9
                                    RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BRU_ce, Apr-27-05 10:27 AM, #10
                                         RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, HybriDSM, Apr-27-05 11:06 AM, #11
                                              RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BRU_ce, Apr-27-05 11:16 AM, #12
                                                   RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, Vandy420a, Apr-27-05 11:26 AM, #13
                                                        RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, BigBald, Apr-27-05 11:59 AM, #14
                                                             RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, HybriDSM, Apr-27-05 12:08 PM, #15
                                                                  RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, RST95eclipse, Apr-27-05 02:07 PM, #16
                                                                       RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!, Vandy420a, Apr-27-05 03:02 PM, #17

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#8666, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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MBC(17psi Max on t25), Intake, 3" Catback Exhaust, 2.5" Downpipe, Fuel Pump, 660cc Injectors, SAFC or Keydiver Chip, BOV Upgrade, Boost Gauge, FMIC.....definately not in this order.

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BRU_ceApr-26-05 09:14 AM
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#8667, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Apr-26-05 09:15 AM by BRU_ce

          

Would it be better to go with a 2.5" DP and a 3" catback instead of a full 2.5"?

Don't they have to "neck down" to fit on the stock cat?

Edit: and can he run 16 PSI safely on the stock fuel system on the T-25?

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#8668, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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on stock fuel system I wouldn't go higher then 15psi. 2.5 DP and 3" Cat Back is ideal setup. You will lose power with a 2.5" Catback. And why the hell would you keep the stock Cat?

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Silv BltApr-26-05 09:59 AM
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#8669, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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I've heard 14psi is all the stock fuel system is good for, but maybe thats a conservative number. Also, have your 02 sensor ported, that'll help a bunch.



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#8670, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Originally posted by Silv Blt
I've heard 14psi is all the stock fuel system is good for, but maybe thats a conservative number. Also, have your 02 sensor ported, that'll help a bunch.


Do you mean the O2 sensor housing? I was thinking of telling him to get an O2 eliminating DP... only thing is, the O2 eliminators replace the stock O2 housing with a bigger one, but it doesn't get rid of the actual O2 sensor, right? I would think not, but like I said I don't have much real world experience yet.

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#8671, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Someone explain to me why 2.5" DP is better than a 3" DP?? The turbo is providing enough backpressure for the engine to run. The easier it is for the turbine to get rid of that pressure the better - faster spool up.

  

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#8672, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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2.5" is fine for now if he doesn't plan on upgading the turbo too much. Most people just go straight to the 3" to kill 2 birds with one stone. Also, go with the Buschur exaust.
Your list sounds about right. Those along with the free mods will make the car much more fun.
Good luck with the new toy!


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#8673, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Originally posted by RST95eclipse
Someone explain to me why 2.5" DP is better than a 3" DP?? The turbo is providing enough backpressure for the engine to run. The easier it is for the turbine to get rid of that pressure the better - faster spool up.


His t25 will creep out the ass with a 3" DP. From the looks of it, he is not upgrading for a while.

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#8674, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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No need to upgrade...t25 can go 11's.


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BRU_ceApr-27-05 10:27 AM
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#8675, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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serious?

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#8676, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Originally posted by BRU_ce
serious?


No.

14b can though....modded to the fucking teeth. T-25 is better suited as a paper-weight. A very dirty inefficient paper-weight.



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#8677, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Originally posted by HybriDSM
Originally posted by BRU_ce serious?
No. 14b can though....modded to the fucking teeth. T-25 is better suited as a paper-weight. A very dirty inefficient paper-weight.


Haha, I think I'll keep it in my room as a trophy when we take it off his car.

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#8678, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Apr-27-05 11:30 AM by Vandy420a

          

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Boost guage
FIPK
BOV
boost controller
EGT guage if he's feeling adventerous (he'll need one anyway, but its not that crucial at this point)
exhaust (stick with 3")

In that order, and that'll do him for a while. The next step is a new turbo...

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#8679, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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EGT's are useless junk...imo.

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#8680, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Originally posted by BigBald
EGT's are useless junk...imo.


When you have DSMLink or wideband behind it, yes I agree, but on a lightly modded car a $100 EGT gauge can give you info you just can't see without logging the car. More info is always good, but yes, it's not the most useful tool but is still useful.



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#8681, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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I hate to do this, but I disagree. Wideband and DSMlink are tuning devices. EGT lets you know real time temp, so you know when to shut 'er down.

  

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#8682, "RE: Stock 95 TSi... Time to mod!"
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Originally posted by RST95eclipse
I hate to do this, but I disagree. Wideband and DSMlink are tuning devices. EGT lets you know real time temp, so you know when to shut 'er down.


I find EGT's really useful...like when i'm really dogging the car, or on roadtrips. If I didn't have it, i'd have a totally toasted turbo by now. Well, I do anyway, but still, it'd be worse than it is...

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