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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-05-07 04:30 PM
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#6745, "Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."

Well... Ive had this Big 16G for a while.. and i just think its time to upgrade.. My budget sucks... but either way i will have to fork a bit a cash to get a turbo worth while... Im wanting a GT35R but im open for suggestions... any??? thank you...

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RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., AMM, Sep-06-07 09:11 AM, #1

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RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., just2cMEbl33d, Sep-06-07 12:04 PM, #3

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RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., just2cMEbl33d, Sep-06-07 04:13 PM, #5

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RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., just2cMEbl33d, Sep-07-07 04:20 AM, #7

RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., AMM, Sep-07-07 06:17 AM, #8

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RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., just2cMEbl33d, Sep-07-07 11:40 AM, #11

RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., just2cMEbl33d, Sep-07-07 12:34 PM, #12

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RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., just2cMEbl33d, Sep-12-07 10:48 AM, #15

RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..., Remy, Sep-11-07 07:49 AM, #13

AMM	Sep-06-07 09:11 AM
Member since Aug 27th 2007 86 posts,

#6746, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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the 35r is an awesome turbo.......... especially on a 4g63 and especially if ur lookimng to make between 500-600 hp. there is no sarcasim in this, im being serious.......... the gt35r is a kick ass turbo.

mike

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bullettdsm	Sep-06-07 10:24 AM
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#6747, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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Sep-06-07 10:25 AM by bullettdsm

Goals and intentions? You're gonna probably have to get more supporting mods for the 35r (IDK your mod list) and you will see a big difference in spool time. As I recollect my E3B16g ported, full spooled at just under 3k (19 psi). My Fp green and red (which spool time, I would imagine, would be comparable to the 35r) full spooled in the 4.5 to 5k range (depending on which one and what psi). That, IMO, is not too practical for the street.

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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-06-07 12:04 PM
Member since Jul 28th 2007 22 posts,

#6748, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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These are my specs... what all would i need to support the GT35R.. and yes its street intended... would like any help or advice you guys are willign to give... even criticism really.. just any help...

-SPECS-
1998 GST with 63k

ENGINE
-force performance EVOIII big 16g turbo charger ported
-XS power FMIC 24"x12"x3" end to end is 30.5"
-inlet/outlet 3" rated for 700hp
-injen intake
-Fidanza aluminum lightweight flywheel 7 bolt
-ACT 2600 MB1XTSS extreme clutch
-Greddy TRust exhuast system utrbo back
-3" down pipe
-external 02 pump
-Greddy FMIC pipes
-NGK spark plus wires
-Prothane motor mount
-225lph walbro fuel pump
-B&M short shifter
-1g head w/ cometic head gasket, and intake manifold
-steel braided clutch and oil line
-ARP head struts
-Greddy Profec B boost conrol
-HKS turbo timer

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bullettdsm	Sep-06-07 02:30 PM
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#6749, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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Hardware looks pretty good. I'm guessing 2g exhaust mani? Would like to see some cams. What do you have for tuner and fuel mods (injectors etc.)?

Daily huh? Of all the turbo's that I have had, I really like my E3B16g the best on the street. Great spool, nice power and held it well.

Oh yeah, also didn't see if you were AWD or FWD. If FWD even more reason to not go with the 35r. When boost hit on the FP green on my FWD it was just spin city.

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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-06-07 04:13 PM
Member since Jul 28th 2007 22 posts,

#6750, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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yeh its FWD... yeh i like my E3B16G... its just its running an internal wastegate and im deff. wanting to go ext. and wanting bigger tho... i have an SAFC and 225 walbro FI's... you sound like you know what your talking about pretty damn well... so i will take any advice you give...

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eclipzGST	Sep-06-07 07:39 PM
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#6751, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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I wouldn't bother going any bigger than an E316G on a FWD DD. If it was a track only car, thats another story.
You probably still have a boatload more power to be gained. My GST with that turbo was hella fun and even with an A/T, full boost would light em up ALL the time....

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'06 Wicked White EVO IX

Originally posted by Avenger
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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-07-07 04:20 AM
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#6752, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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alright.. well will you help me out with my mods??? what shoulo di do to get full potential out my E3B16G??? im planing on getting some HKS belts and cam... and a new cam shaft... not sure which kind of cam shaft i should get yet?? any suggestions for that??? What else can I do to get my car to full potential???

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AMM	Sep-07-07 06:17 AM
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#6753, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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eh i guess some of us have different opinions on that turbo. i would still run it on a DD though......... fwd or awd i dont care........ then when u go to the track put the slicks on and turn the boost up.

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eclipzGST	Sep-07-07 06:19 AM
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#6754, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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Are you still on stock injectors??? SAFC is a great tool for tuning a fairly stock car but when you go to BIG injectors, you'll need something better. DSMLink is the way to go.
Get yourself a set of 750cc injectors, a set of 272 camshafts and DSMLink.
After a tune, you'll have a whole new car...

__________________________________________________________
-Tony <--- NOT asian.
'06 Wicked White EVO IX

Originally posted by Avenger
When I raise the BS flag ... it's a really big fucking flag and I raise it really fucking high too.

"Never whistle while your pissing." ~The illuminatus Trilogy

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bullettdsm	Sep-07-07 08:47 AM
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#6755, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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Originally posted by eclipzGST
DSMLink is the way to go. Get yourself a set of 750cc injectors, a set of 272 camshafts and DSMLink. After a tune, you'll have a whole new car...

Def. better set-up. You have lots of power still caged up in there. You can go bigger than 750's if you want (I wouldn't go bigger than 880's) with DSMLink. It is VERY user friendly. As for cams, I am partial to FP 2's. They were a little smoother down low for me. But with DSMLink, it wouldn't really matter. Had HKS's in the FWD (with DSMLink) and idled great on the HKS's.

I'm a little confused on your O2 situation. You say your are internal wastegate then you list an external dump? Am I reading that properly?

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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-07-07 11:40 AM
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#6756, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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to be honest im not sure.. :/ im a newbie... but i appreciate all your help... 2GNT forum is a GOD... thank you all.. idk how i would do it without all you guys...

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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-07-07 12:34 PM
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#6757, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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my friend just told me that 750cc injectors might overheat if i tune my fuel down more becuz right now its pulling 23% out and he said THAT was too much.. and said that if i get bigger injectors and tune the amount pulled out down that the injectors mite overheat... ??? questions???

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eclipzGST	Sep-11-07 08:06 PM
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#6758, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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Originally posted by just2cMEbl33d
my friend just told me that 750cc injectors might overheat if i tune my fuel down more becuz right now its pulling 23% out and he said THAT was too much.. and said that if i get bigger injectors and tune the amount pulled out down that the injectors mite overheat... ??? questions???

hmmmm.... where to start with this....
...I know! You could start with finding new friends. lol Preferably some that know a least a little about DSM's or cars in general. hehe
Of course you'll have to pull fuel. At low boost, you'll have to pull a LOT of fuel. And then add more fuel as you add more air(boost). VFAQ should be your new friend. At least get to know the basics and then we can help you from there.

__________________________________________________________
-Tony <--- NOT asian.
'06 Wicked White EVO IX

Originally posted by Avenger
When I raise the BS flag ... it's a really big fucking flag and I raise it really fucking high too.

"Never whistle while your pissing." ~The illuminatus Trilogy

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just2cMEbl33d	Sep-12-07 10:48 AM
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#6759, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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haha... i didnt thnk that he was correct... and i know that pretty much everyone on this forum knows alot more than me or anyone around where i live.. so i appreiciate

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Remy	Sep-11-07 07:49 AM
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#6760, "RE: Ungrading turbo... GT35R??? any other suggestions??? wanting to keep it a DD..."
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Sep-11-07 08:16 AM by Remy

Originally posted by just2cMEbl33d
Well... Ive had this Big 16G for a while.. and i just think its time to upgrade.. My budget sucks... but either way i will have to fork a bit a cash to get a turbo worth while... Im wanting a GT35R but im open for suggestions... any??? thank you...

I highly recommend the gt35.

I used the gt3561 all last season. It was in the small mitsu-housing and it was non ball bearing. I got full boost of 23psi on pump gas at 4500 rpm. With my stock long block with just 264/272s and a Magnus Smim, I was flowing 49 lbs/min.

A friend of mine gets full boost on his gt35r at 3700-3800 rpm. He also traps 131 mph @ 28psi - Good for 10.7 e/t if he could ever get a decent 60 ft. This is also on the small mitsu turbine housing.

Now those are all good numbers but if you want to make some serious power with the gt35r I would recommend running it in a t3 or t4 housing. It flows so much better. I am running a T3-Gt3582r on my 2.3l. I havent hit the dyno yet but there is a dude on the dsmlink forums that made 520hp @ 22psi on pump gas.

I am shooting for 10s at Mitsu-day on the 22nd.

Hope this helps.

Edit: A cheaper option would be to get a PTE SCM61. Its a bolt on turbo which makes similer power to the gt35r but it comes with a much cheaper price tag. I ran that at the beginning of this season. Full boost on that with my build set up was 3900rpm.

-Remy

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