I keep going back and forth, and thinking of different cars that would be sweet to have. I've thought about an EVO, but I'm not too sure about the looks, or the insurance. It's still in the back of my head.

Then there's the 98 GSX I've been looking at. 6-Bolt, shep tranny, 20G, all kinds of stuff. Runs probably mid to low 11s. This is the looks and performance for a decnt price option. Pretty damn fast, and still a pretty good looking car for $13,000.

But then I always have the 350Z in the back of my mind also. In my opinion, one of the best looking cars, right up there with Supras and such, as far as looks. Respectable performance stock, but not as fast as the GSX. But, it's new and reliable. And then I would consider a turbo kit down the road. But all this together would be well in the $30k range, if the Z was used.

So obviously the Z would be nicer than the GSX... but the GSX would be pretty freakin fast, and I wouldn't have to put hardly any money into it. I could drive it more than the Z, since being AWD. The Z would end up being a lot more money, so what do you guys think?

Hopefully etx sees this, since he has a quick 2G, and a turbo Z. lol.

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-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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gsx. 2g looks, AWD, fast as hell... get it.

Im trying to make the same exact decision. I'll sit back and watch where this goes. Dont forget the Z will be a brand new car with a warranty and NO WORRIES and still very fun to drive as is.

Chris
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98 Eclipse GS 5 spd- sold
95 Camaro Z28
64.5 Mustang 302 3spd

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...Z...Hands down. reliability,sex appeal,and good power PLUS turbo setup/engine build down the road. against an awd 11 second monster...if something breaks who know's. This is a toughy though but I still say Z.

Steve-o
Top secret.

Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger.

I say GSX. Its done. 350z's aren't that fast stock and even with boltons (CAI, cat-back, pulleys) I can pull on them in my rs at 15psi(on the highway with only an sfmu & 42#inj for fuel management). I drove my friends with the mods listed and it is a nice as shit but lacks on power imo. So you either want a nice, fast car now for 1/2 the cost (gsx) or a really nice, quick car that you might make fast later for 2 times the cost(350z) After getting my car back on the road recently I have to go with the GSX. About a month ago I would have said 350z all the way though.

Evo 8 - 12.3@113 circa 2009 (~330whp)
Now with BB Xona Rotor HTZ FP Red and ~450whp
2018 MSM Civic SI Ktuner TSP stage 1 w/ Honda hacked headunit.

I say get the Z and be worry free for the next few years. Yeah the GSX is fast and nice but remember that a high horsepower daily driver is more likely to break down that a stock daily driver. It's like you said the Z has respectable power straight from the factory. If I were in your shoes I would get the Z and just enjoy the car in it's nice stock form for a few years and then mod it.

I'm another one debating this same thing. I however am leaning towards the Z b/c I will probably be driving a lot so I need something much more reliable preferably with a warranty and I would keep the RS and just build for more boost. But a 2gb gsx is also dead sexy. It's a tough decision.

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

With the money you're thinking of spending, why not buy a 99 vr4? 320 hp stock, mid-high 13's stock. Plus, how many of your buddies can say they have TWO turbos? lol PLus, its AWD, and if you can spend $30,000 for a Z, I'm sure you cuold find a 99 vr4 with less than 30k on the odometer for about $22,000.

Don't sell your car to 16 year olds...

95 Eclipse RS - Sold for 6k, totalled three days later
91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT - 3" exhaust w/ no cats, eurethane motor mounts, 300M unbreakable output shaft, kevlar faced clutch, turbo XS BOV, 99 3000gt front conversion, carbon fiber hood. Dyno'd at 386hp. - SOLD! for 5k
98 Dodge Ram 1500 Club Cab 4x4 black on black.

My order would go: Evo (I personally love the looks, and 11's can be had with nothing more than exhaust, fuel pump, bc, and cams), GSX (but only if you have another car or can handle some down time), Supra (only reason it is down here is because of how rare they are and how much it would be to get a decent one), the Z (although I really don't like them that much...Evo's can be had for cheaper, and do you really want RWD in the winter? Plus aftermarket parts are NOT cheap!), and finally the VR4, since it was mentioned (But I would only get one if I had another car, and was rich. They are not the most reliable of cars, and they are not cheap to make fast) Hope that helps you...

'95 GSX - New motor/turbo going in...
'95 TSi AWD - For sale...buy me!
'03.5 MazdaSpeed Protege - Stock daily driver
'97 CBR 600 - Purple is a real man's color

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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i say supra all the way . i love that car . i wish i could find one but its almost impossible . next would be the gsx and then the z .

LED tails : Done for now!
99 eclipse rst
cobalt blue met. paint,star stage 2 upgraded t3/t460trim turbo ceramic coated , polished compressor housing, ,optima yellow top, chrome i/c piping ,front mount ntercooler ,apexi turbo timer . zeitronix wb02 ,faze oil ,boost gauge,egt ,bosch 4x plugs,kyb agx struts, pro kit springs.17''adr venomous rims,Falken azenis ,brembo dilled/slotted rotors ,turbo xs bov ,oil catch can,manual shiftknob,autometer pyrometer egt , vortech sfmu,b&m fuel pressure gauge ,accel 310cc injectors ,gasketmatched and polished intake manifold ,58mm throttle body ,no egr,polished turbonetics wastegate,fuel pump rewire,homade fcd and a lot more .LED reverse lights ,sidemarkers and tails .atx to mtx swap . South bend tz clutch . Tons more
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http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=boosted60trimrst
My contribution to the wiki
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=crank%20arm%20spindle%20mod%20to%20fit%20power%20panels

You need to decide want you want, seriously.

I would say if there is, don't go for a supra at all. They cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to mod, and maintain, then of coourse their price tag to begin with. Now 350Z vs GSX, WTF? Of course GSX.

'95 GSX - Big16G ~ Leaks, but atleast it runs.

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
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-2003 CBR600RR
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Without a question, get the Z. How often are you really planning on racing? If you were to try to use that GSX as your DD and race it, you know that shit is going to break down and cause you tons of headaches. Get the Z, have a warranty, be happy.

Jason
'11 Ford Mustang GT/CS
'11 Ford Mustang V6 6-Speed (SOLD)
'04 Nissan 350z Touring (SOLD)
'95 Turbo Eclipse GS (SOLD and will be missed)
'90 Talon TSi AWD (SOLD)

Have you driven an AWD? I won't own anything else as long as I'm driving. That being said, I am also unlikely to buy ANY used car that costs more than beater cash. How about a Mazdaspeed M6 or a WRX/STI?

You already know what car fits your needs and budget, and it's obviously NOT the one you want to buy. Been there and done that, good luck.

Greg

'19 Genesis G70 3.3t AWD
'88 Chrysler Conquest TSI

Originally posted by 992gnt
Have you driven an AWD? I won't own anything else as long as I'm driving. That being said, I am also unlikely to buy ANY used car that costs more than beater cash. How about a Mazdaspeed M6 or a WRX/STI? You already know what car fits your needs and budget, and it's obviously NOT the one you want to buy. Been there and done that, good luck.

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
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I'd take the Z. Besides the fact that it will be more reliable, if you ever do anything to it, you can say that you did it, where as with the gsx, all the work was done for you, where's the fun in that?

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http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1133
*form follows function*

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

DSM Registry Profiles:
http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1410 (Eclipse)
http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1411 (Talon)

Z of course I'm planning of getting one. I for one am done with the boy racer image my eclipse has though I love the car.

New Car:
2004 350z base, Nismo CAI, pioneer avic-n1 (dvd, cd, navi)



Old Car:
1998 GS with hrc stage 2, HID 6000k conversion kit, AEM UEGO wideband, sfmu, ml, prokits, Greddy warning gauges: egt, boost gauge, and oil pressure, apexi tt, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler
Boostin since Aug 03.

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!

It sounds to me like you want the GSX. You can drive it year round, AWD kicks a$$, and you will be faster than not 95, but more like 99.9% of cars on the road. Your idea of getting a 1g is not a bad idea. Although if you were getting the GSX, you would not even need another AWD. You already said you are not going to drive a new car in the winter, so you already need two cars. To me it makes a lot more sense to get the cheaper, faster, sexier, AWDier GSX. Screw the warantee on a new car, that's what car forums are for Now make up your mind and get a new car!

'95 GSX - New motor/turbo going in...
'95 TSi AWD - For sale...buy me!
'03.5 MazdaSpeed Protege - Stock daily driver
'97 CBR 600 - Purple is a real man's color

One letter... Z!

http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1030

I think it's interesting that so many people on here are looking to go to a Z as their next car, aside from the people that posted here, I know customgs is plannin on it, a few people have done it, and it will most likely be my next too. (of course I'll keep the 2g around though)

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

Chris
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98 Eclipse GS 5 spd- sold
95 Camaro Z28
64.5 Mustang 302 3spd

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Both!

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http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1133
*form follows function*

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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As much as I would love to have a gsx if I had a choice between that and a 350z I would take the Z. If you can afford it get it. It will be more reliable and is one sexy bitch.

Shawn
99 Eclipse RS
Hahn Stage 2,Full built bottom end with je 8:8 and eagle rods ect..

1998 Eclipse GS

GS-T Axleback|CAI|OBX 4-1 Header|AF/X UDP|

1991 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX - SOLD
2006 Mustang GT Convertible

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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While my car is not currently running 11's, after I get my FP2 cams in, there is nothing holding me back except my own feet. I daily drive the car every day, and plan to even through the winter until I get my next car, and Evo IX MR (which will come after I am better off financially). Right now I have my Talon as a backup, but as of right now, I only needed it once (after my transfer case locked up...no fluid ). But the difference is, I put everything I have in my car myself. I turned every bolt, tightened every clamp, and connected every line in there. I know my engine bay inside and out. I know I did not half a$$ anything. When there is a problem, I know right where to look. I know why this is this way, and why that is that way. You get the idea. Basically, you have no idea what the previous owner did, right or wrong. And I doubt he will be there to help you if it brakes. What I really think you should do (if you really want a GSX) is to buy a stock GSX and mod it yourself. You will know exactly what has been done to it, and believe me, you will get so much more satisfaction out of knowing that you built the car. While this will cost more than buying the modded GSX, it really will be worth it in the end. Hope this helps as well.

Oh, and I drive my car @ 23 PSI everyday, but I can easily drive without getting into boost at all. I know I will have no problem even in the winter. If you were really afraid, you could even keep your wastegate open, although this would be overkill in my opinion

'95 GSX - New motor/turbo going in...
'95 TSi AWD - For sale...buy me!
'03.5 MazdaSpeed Protege - Stock daily driver
'97 CBR 600 - Purple is a real man's color

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
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-2003 CBR600RR
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'95 GSX - New motor/turbo going in...
'95 TSi AWD - For sale...buy me!
'03.5 MazdaSpeed Protege - Stock daily driver
'97 CBR 600 - Purple is a real man's color

That blue car got me boobies once

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

So I was leaning towards a Z last night, and then today the saleslady that I talked to a while ago said that they have an 06 base model in. I went and checked it out... driving it made me realize I don't want another eclipse. The lady's boyfriend works for the electric company that I do, and he's a big guy in the union, so she said she would give me basically the employee discount... just a little more. She also said she would get me whatever color I wanted.

I just may have made up my mind.

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-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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Originally posted by DR1665
To the guy with the oh-so-Smurfy 2G in his sig pic, here's another one: Derek hasn't seen this thread yet because, everytime he drives past a KFC in his Z, the bitches come running out with bucket of original recipe and extra crispy and he jes can't say no! *Actually, Derek is a hard-working man who puts in a shitton of hours at work. A shame, really, since he only recently sprang for an actual bed to sleep on instead of the old cot he kept in the garage in front of the RS.

That blue car got me boobies once

This is a no-brainer. The Z is an incredible car. Perfect balance, excellent platform, and every inch of it was designed to perfection. I LOVE those cars. I'll definitely be looking into getting one once I'm out of school and have a good start in my career.

As far as the GSX, meh sure it's fast but do you really want an 8 year old car that's more than likely going to break?

The Evo...well you can't go wrong here. Awesome car, great motor, and even better potential. I just don't think it's looks can even touch the Z.

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

If you like the driving feel in the Z, have you drove an S2000? I've put many many miles on a Z, and don't get me wrong I like it, but after driving an S2k, I forgot about the z. I love the S2K. I went looking for a new ride and its S2K for me. Insurance went like this for me cheapest to highest: evo, S2K, gsx, 350Z.

~>Kenton<~

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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