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electroheadJun-27-10 09:49 PM
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#44645, "Is the Evo getting axed?"


          

Hey, I was browsing Stupid Street in the store and there was a reference that the the Evo X might be the last Lancer Evo that Mitsubishi is going to make. Anybody read or heard the same? It would be a shame, since the Evo finally (in my opinion) went in the right direction with the new 4B11T engine and a more refined platform. Plus, it seems Mitsu finally took some styling cues from our 2nd Gen cars. I hope they keep building the Evo. It's been a good inspiration for my car.

  

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RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, 740 turbo brick, Jun-27-10 10:49 PM, #1
RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, electrohead, Jun-28-10 12:57 AM, #2
      RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, Moderatorteklein, Jun-28-10 08:59 AM, #3
           RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, ModeratoreclipzGST, Jun-28-10 01:13 PM, #4
                RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, Zeram2000, Jun-28-10 06:37 PM, #5
                     RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, Slo2g, Jun-28-10 07:29 PM, #6
                          RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, electrohead, Jun-29-10 12:05 AM, #7
                               RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jun-29-10 01:52 AM, #8
                                    RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, electrohead, Jun-29-10 05:01 AM, #9
                                         RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jun-29-10 08:09 PM, #10
                                              RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, electrohead, Jun-29-10 09:58 PM, #11
                                              RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, Breezio, Jul-01-10 09:02 PM, #12
                                                   RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jul-01-10 10:28 PM, #13
                                                        RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, electrohead, Jul-02-10 12:02 AM, #14
                                                             RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jul-02-10 12:29 AM, #15
                                                                  RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, electrohead, Jul-02-10 01:50 AM, #16
                                                                       RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jul-02-10 02:43 AM, #17
                                                                            RE: Is the Evo getting axed?, ez, Jul-04-10 01:45 PM, #18

740 turbo brickJun-27-10 10:49 PM
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#44646, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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They better not. I want to buy a new one when I have the funds..


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electroheadJun-28-10 12:57 AM
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#44647, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Me too. Well, I want to get one once I finish my car for the most part, which will be in about 2 or 3 years... I hope... But I don't think I'd ever get rid of my car. Too many memories and WAY too much money invested. Plus, my wife would cry if I sold it.

  

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ModeratortekleinJun-28-10 08:59 AM
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#44648, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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I think they reported this on Tuners.

I think I read something about a diesel Evo to replace, but not in the US.

  

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ModeratoreclipzGSTJun-28-10 01:13 PM
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#44649, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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They should have quit with the IX and started calling it something else.... An Evo isn't an Evo without a 4G63...


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#44656, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Every thing I heard said the next EVO will be a hybrid and the next STI will be a turbo diesel.

  

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Slo2gJun-28-10 07:29 PM
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#44657, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2010/112_1001_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_xi_hybrid/index.html

Should be around 350 hp

  

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electroheadJun-29-10 12:05 AM
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#44659, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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At least it won't be like a Prius. So what they're planning is what the 2004 Concept-E had with regards to electric motors adding to the power and economy, but not ruining fun? If the Evo XI will still be tunable, then I say go for it!
I personally think that Mitsu did the right thing by keeping the Lancer Evo name once they changed engines. Evolution is the perfect description of how each generation got better and more refined than the previous one. I feel that an engine code is not enough to change the name of a car, it's the overall package. Since we don't have a 4G63 engine, and the first gen DSMs did, should our cars have been named something else? I don't think so. Other companies are changing engines in their cars. Look at BMW. Their new M3 is a V8, not a straight 6, yet the name stays. I could go on forever. Bottom line, if maintaining the feel, performance oriented design, and tunability of previous generations (all while pushing boundries with technogical advancements), Mitsu should keep the Evo nameplate. It's more of a legacy, than just a name. What they should change is making the Eclipse into a smaller, faster car and making the Galant as cool as the late '90s versions... Just add more power while they're at it.

  

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#44660, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Shit can it

  

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electroheadJun-29-10 05:01 AM
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#44662, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Shit can it


Why do you say that? In this day and age, when rich tree huggers are killing off fun cars, we should all support car makers to keep making cars for the enthusiast. If they kill fun cars off, our hobby and passion for tuning cars, regardless of make, will end up a distant memory... Sure, the yuppy tree huggers and retarded drivers are the reasons car manufacturers are making the new cars heavier and overloaded with bullshit safety features, but at least some of them still give a shit about the 20% of the population that enjoys speed. Plus, being a Mitsu fan, I'd hate to have the Evo axed while fans of other manufacturers still had their fun cars. The Evo to Mitsu is like what the Corvette is to Chevy. I know, they might not be in the same class, but they're both cars that define their respective brands, the flagship models.

  

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#44671, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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I know it affects the very 2gnt i drive, and it also makes me happy we have a Dodge Motor........but i wish America would go back to driving american and stop importing shit. Put our Autoworkers back to work.

Its a catch 22, i know but i hope the govt starts taxing imported vehicles so that we can regulate the amount of outsourcing that has become the american way of life.

  

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#44673, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
I know it affects the very 2gnt i drive, and it also makes me happy we have a Dodge Motor........but i wish America would go back to driving american and stop importing shit. Put our Autoworkers back to work. Its a catch 22, i know but i hope the govt starts taxing imported vehicles so that we can regulate the amount of outsourcing that has become the american way of life.


That I can definately agree with. But, it's been said that the small buisinesses are the foundation of this country. And I believe it's because of the quality and passion that defines small companies. Automakers are unfortunately NOT small companies, so the bottom line is more important than quality and passion to the big wigs. So, what should be considered an American car, is in fact Canadian or Mexican. So autoworkers in other countries are getting the much needed jobs that American workers want.
My view is this: It doesn't matter what you drive, Import or Domestic. People need to stop ordering overseas aftermarket parts and buy American. The American aftermarket has stepped up and is making alot of parts that I feel are better than their Asian counterparts, yet cost half as much and rival in fit and finish. Bushur Racing, AMS, Stillen, Racing Beat are some of the examples off the top of my head. Everytime I see a Bushur Racing or AMS drag or time attack car, I see the American obsession with horsepower and it makes me smile.
With outsourcing, it's sad that our country's auto makers are making cars under the guise of being American while moving plants to other countries, and the Asian and European car makers are giving more American workers jobs by moving factories here. When I first saw the Chevy HHR SS, I was really interested in buying one. The whole panel truck look with turbo power on a sport compact chassis interested me. But then I found out no matter how much the ads made it sound so damn American, it was all completely outsourced and not even assembled here. I really feel there is no more American vs Japaneese and European. The market has become too blurry. After all, Chrysler and Mitsubishi still work together in the design of engines (with Hyundai, as well) despite going their seperate ways. Example: The engines in the Evo X, Genesis Turbo, and Caliber SRT-4 are, from a design standpoint, cousins. The final designs, tweeks, and performance improvements are what makes the engines different. Is DSM still alive in spirit? With the global market allowing companies to work together in ways never thought possible, how do you really know American or Import a car really is? Just food for thought.

  

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#44683, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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A LARGE portion of the 'imports' are built in the US... while a large portion of 'domestics' are built out of the country.




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#44684, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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I know its sad. I think as a country we should call all of our domestic back to US soil and start heavily taxing the importation of foreign cars. It would be a great deal for all of us to adjust to but I would be happy to.

  

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electroheadJul-02-10 12:02 AM
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#44685, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Greed. It's what ruined it for all the middle-class guys like us. I was watching SPEED and I saw a show about how the BMW Z4 is built. I thought the whole car was built in Germany, but just the engine is built there. The rest of the car is built in the US and then exported from here to the rest of the world. I feel that makes the Z4 more American than the Charger. I feel that we should support car makers that give Americans jobs, regardless of the domestic or import marque. We can no longer have that 'Buy American' attitude, because, unfortunately, the time where there was a clear line between American made cars and all other cars is long gone. It's a sad truth, but our country's car makers put the dollar before the people, and other countries' car makers are actually helping us out and building factories (think BMW and Toyota) and design studios here (think Acura, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai), giving us the jobs back that we, as Americans, had taken away by the greedy companys based right in our own country. With the way the car companies here have been, my views have changed, and I feel it will be a very long time, if ever, that I will feel different. I embrace all companies that give Americans jobs, from manufacturing to Research and Developement of Aftermarket parts. I was kind of surprized when I found out Mitsubishi was actually giving Evo Xs to several big tuning companies here in the States (like Desighncraft and the US division of Cosworth) to develop and test performance parts. We need those kinds of gestures from American-Based car companies (I believe the Big Three no longer deserve the title of 'American Car Companies', just 'American-Based Car Companies). Those are the kinds of things enthusiasts appreciate and embrace. And that's how loyalties are made. Focus on the buyers that actually have more than half of their left, that can be won over to a respective brand, not the ones that have one foot in the grave and have more money to spend on a car than 99% of the country.

  

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#44686, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Yeah I can understand that but look at this point as a compromise.

You tax all importation.

This will force the BIG 2 (Ford is Stamped right here in Chicago) to bring their production home or lose sales at home.

At the same time japanese (as well as european) will keep factories here so that the taxation is far smaller than trying to import a whole vehicle line.

That could be a win win situation.

What i have a problem with is that the rest of the entire world hates us. Its no secret either. We blew Japan out of the water almost 70 years ago and now we require their technology to survive? These are the same people that were shoving razorblades up womens snatches to hurt our american soldiers in Vietnam. Germans wanted to convert the entire world to a dictatorship where you wouldnt be able to buy any car you wanted......now we are giving them tons of American money for Audi's. Italians.....mousolini, same boat different colored paddle.

We the people are tolerating it and allowing it. We are the reason the two towers no longer stand. We sit here and blame everyone else yet look at what we are allowing. American autocompanies are going under due to greed but who's greed? Ceo's? Sure but how about the greed of the American people. We will buy any car that is cheaper reqardless of quality and it forces the Autocompanies to outsource too.

I hope the US GOVT puts their foot down and increase import taxes up the ass. Yes its going to suck for all of us for 5 years after but our US autocompanies will begine to stamp steel back here in the US liek it should be. We still have all the steel stamping plants sitting dormant here in Chicago. In fact Ford is re-tooling now for the new Explorer. We have been stamping Ford Steel here in Chicago for decades so dont tell me it cant be done efficiently.

I know its more like "I hate the foreign world" rant and to be honest I do. Our military is the only thing not outsourced and we are dying in record numbers both active and retired. I think we should outsource aphganistan and let them kill each other. Then drop a nuke on the last man standing. Middle east.......1 plane B-52 with 70,000 pounds of care package flown by kamakazi japaneese pilot.

Terry

  

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electroheadJul-02-10 01:50 AM
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#44687, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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So, going back to the original topic and adding our discussion about outsourcing, it is safe to say what you're against is not the production of the Evo (or other import for that matter), but the over-abundance of outsourcing by the American automakers? Because if that's the case, I agree with you 100%. And I agree with your take on import tax. It would be a win-win situation. If car makers want our money, and since our society is car obsessed, it would make sense to have more companies open up shop here. That way we have jobs, we have our hobbies, and they have our money. Everybody wins... as long as build quality doesn't go to shit by the big wigs trying to cut corners to make a quicker profit. And can someone PLEASE beat the crap out of Ford for not bringing the Focus RS here? Why does the rest of the world get the faster, cooler versions of our stuff? If they brought the RS over, they could get so much of the tuner market, instead of complaining about it. And GM needs a punch for killing off the G8 (they could of at least rebadged it) and installing a third world country's fleet car interior into the Cobalt SS (an otherwise great car).

  

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#44688, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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Yes i think you hit the nail on the head there.

  

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#44707, "RE: Is the Evo getting axed?"
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We'll get jobs back in the U.S. once cheap labor goes full circle. China's standard of living is increasing and ours is decreasing. At some point the cost of producing overseas + shipping product across the Pacific (when oil becomes even MORE expensive) will force business to remain at home. Yes it could be done through taxation of imports, or even better, reducing PERSONAL income taxes so we can afford quality American products instead of cheap foreign imports, but that would involve thinking on the behalf of politicians. Not gonna happen, especially with Obama at the top.

Unfortunately, I don't see a bright future for most of the American car manufacturers. The newbies like Tesla and Aptera may gain traction over the next decade - they are definitely in future-friendly technology.

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