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msl-manOct-08-08 06:22 PM
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#36130, "Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."




          

I don't want to start a political shit storm here and I'm not endorsing... yet. But I think this is a very important article to read for those of you concerned about the condition of our economy. Especially now with all the finger pointing going on during the debates. I'm interested in hearing everybody's take on what this article is pointing toward.

BTW - It was written by the Times back in September of 1999.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1



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RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., Moderatorcs82685, Oct-09-08 02:11 AM, #1
RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-09-08 04:16 AM, #2
      RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., ModeratorEvuLFleA, Oct-09-08 05:50 AM, #3
      RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., thedawg, Oct-09-08 08:02 AM, #4
      RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-09-08 08:18 AM, #5
      RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., msl-man, Oct-09-08 08:32 AM, #6
           RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., thedawg, Oct-09-08 09:12 AM, #7
                RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., msl-man, Oct-09-08 09:54 AM, #8
                     RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., ez, Oct-09-08 03:28 PM, #9
                          RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., 96TurboGS, Oct-09-08 08:02 PM, #10
                               RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-10-08 03:46 AM, #11
                                    RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., TeamDR1665, Oct-10-08 05:50 AM, #12
                                         RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., Moderatorbullettdsm, Oct-11-08 02:51 AM, #13
                                         RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., shybuck, Oct-12-08 03:50 PM, #14
                                              RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-13-08 01:24 AM, #15
                                         RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., totaleklipse97, Oct-13-08 05:57 AM, #16
                                              RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., mysteryclipse21, Oct-13-08 06:29 AM, #17
                                                   RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-13-08 06:38 AM, #18
                                                        RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-13-08 04:14 PM, #19
      RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., Teamner947, Oct-25-08 04:03 PM, #20
           RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., burntheblobs, Oct-26-08 05:35 AM, #21
           RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis., KaptainMyke, Oct-26-08 03:22 PM, #22
                whats probaby the real deal..., KaptainMyke, Oct-29-08 12:21 AM, #23
                     RE: whats probaby the real deal..., freelancefool, Oct-29-08 01:23 AM, #24
                          RE: whats probaby the real deal..., KaptainMyke, Oct-29-08 01:31 AM, #25
                          RE: whats probaby the real deal..., msl-man, Oct-29-08 03:52 AM, #26
                          RE: whats probaby the real deal..., Teamner947, Oct-30-08 08:39 AM, #27

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Interesting read.


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Rockefeller, JP Morgan, FEMA and Homeland Security.

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Oct-09-08 05:51 AM by EvuLFleA



          

Originally posted by KaptainMyke
Rockefeller, JP Morgan, FEMA and Homeland Security.


I'm a firm believer that as much lobbying most of those firms do it's still up to the congressmen whether he/she wants to accept their gifts, advice, policies, etc.

I put 100% of the blame in the hands of our Congressmen. Almost every problem we're in today you can trace the cause back to our Government. Here's a good example: http://www.nypost.com/seven/02052008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_real_scandal_243911.htm?page=0

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#36139, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Woodrow Wilson. He created the Federal Reserve that forces inflation and an eventual unavoidable dollar bubble collapse.

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Then Franklin Roosevelt and Executive Order 6102, which confiscated and made it a major crime to posess gold and gold based currencies.

"All persons to deliver on or before May 1, 1933 all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates owned by them to the Federal Reserve."

Then if you want to talk about the Housing/Subprime collapse specifically, check out Jimmy Carter and the "Community Reinvestment Act" of 1977.

Critics charged that the law would "distort credit markets, create unnecessary regulatory burden, lead to unsound lending, and cause the governmental agencies charged with implementing the law to allocate credit."

Then Bill Clinton changed the requirements in 1995 to force all banks to issue subprime loans. His administration also unhinged housing prices from the Inflation equation to hide the effect.

"the CRA has served as a catalyst, inducing banks to enter underserved markets that they might otherwise have ignored" -Bernanke

Barack Obama's campaign supports the CRA, in fact even sued banks for not issuing enough subprime mortgages under the CRA, and he voted for the Bailout.

John McCain also personally voted for the Bailout.

So, to answer your question: Our government is responsible for the current financial crisis. Both Republicans and Democrats. And what are we doing? Letting them meddle in the market even more, we just signed them a 700 Billion blank check of our own private piggy bank money.

Good job apathetic America. Keep sleeping through history class.

  

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#36141, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Originally posted by thedawg
Keep sleeping through history class.



Repeated for greatness.

It's happening all over again now.

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#36142, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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You're absolutely right IMO.

Carter Passes CRA in 1977.

The bottom falls out in the 80's causing another gov't bailout.

Bush Senior and Congress enacts FIRREA in 1989. Calling for more, not less, but MORE oversight on these lending institutions.

Then in the mid 90's Wild Bill Clinton calls for the deregulation of those companies and begins pressuring them to give out more loans to those who would not be able to pay them back. How did he do this... once again, the CRA.

"Barack Obama's campaign supports the CRA, in fact even sued banks for not issuing enough subprime mortgages under the CRA, and he voted for the Bailout."

Absolutely Right!! But if you deny a black or minority a loan based on the fact they may have a terrible credit rating (and you probably won't get your money back) that means that you are a racist! Figure that one out.

What pisses me off the most is Barry Obama (yep thats his real name). He actually has the audacity to spoon feed the american public this line about how this crisis is the result of the last 8 years. When anybody who has a brain can figure out this was started way back in the 70's. (yes by a democrat).

I'm not saying Mccain is the right choice but I would much rather have a man who won't push bullshit party politics and prey off the stupidity of the american public he is suppose to serve. Gov't was never meant to be run by career politicians.





  

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#36145, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Originally posted by msl-man
But if you deny a black or minority a loan based on the fact they may have a terrible credit rating (and you probably won't get your money back) that means that you are a racist!
Which is more racist and cruel? Forcing a minority to rent until they get their personal finances under control?
Or tricking them into signing their life away for a mortgage they can't afford, and foreclosing on them, evicting them from their home and bankrupting them permanently?

Guess what happens to the minorities under Democratic policies, renters and foreclosures alike? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27090355/

Enjoy the market collapse everyone.

  

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Originally posted by thedawg
Originally posted by msl-man But if you deny a black or minority a loan based on the fact they may have a terrible credit rating (and you probably won't get your money back) that means that you are a racist!
Which is more racist and cruel? Forcing a minority to rent until they get their personal finances under control? Or tricking them into signing their life away for a mortgage they can't afford, and foreclosing on them, evicting them from their home and bankrupting them permanently? Guess what happens to the minorities under Democratic policies, renters and foreclosures alike? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27090355/ Enjoy the market collapse everyone.


I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. The fact that somebody cannot afford to buy a house and must to rent IS not the taxpayers responsibility. However, neither is cleaning up this mess caused by predatory lending practices. I'm afraid you are addressing two or three different issues with your question. (Maybe I'm just reading it wrong)


What a mess. That article above states that as of right now, close to 1/3 of all foreclosed properties (over 1 million currently are in foreclosure) are occupied by renters who have no idea the bank is going to take the house. Just another problem that has to be solved to deal with this BS. I'm interested to hear Barry and John's plan for that.

It seems to me that the Clinton administration borrowed votes against the economic future of our country. I bet if the minority voters knew that they would be on the street he wouldn't have made it two terms.





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I could give a lecture about this topic, but to sum it up:

-Dan hit most of the major points as to the structure that was put in place.

-If any ONE person with power within the last decade should claim most of the blame, it is Alan Greenspan. Not any president. Not any congressman. With him keeping interest rates down, it punishes savers and encourages bubbles. He actually RECOMMENDED people to take out ARM loans for mortgages at the top of the bubble. When he said this a lot of smart people in the financial world choked on their coffee. We all saw the end of this bubble coming, so I don't believe he's that incompetent - rather, his motivation is (and has always been) to ensure gains in power among the plutocracy.

-Realtors. AKA the slime of the earth. Since Y2K us californians have been barraged by their constant "Buy now, prices will never go down" comments. "They aren't making any more land!" "Buy before you are left out!" As prices go all the way up, and as prices go all the way down, "It has never been a better time to buy!"

-Morons. Self-explanatory, but all the people who make $15/hr and then take out a no-down ARM loan for $600,000, only to refinance in a year and extract another $100,000 home-equity loan as prices increase, so that they can buy an escalade and plasma TVs.

I'm so damn pissed about this whole debacle. I wrote both my senators and the local representative in protest of both bailouts. Fuckers still passed em though. Gee thanks, I'm sure the billionaires will enjoy more of my tax money. And thanks for trying to keep housing prices artificially elevated forever, who needs a middle class that can afford housing anyway. People need to start educating themselves about what goes on in this country so they can get as mad as I am, b/c I'm ready for revolution 2.0.

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#36157, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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I think you guys need to look at the CEO fucks on Wall Street of (AIG Frannie mac, ect, ect) and one of the worst president along with senators…that’s your answer. We can sit here and argue all day about witch side is the best, and why the market is crashing. The United States dollar isn’t going to be worth shit and soon enough it will be the same for everyone’s homes. Risky loans these huge ass companies are given out is fuckin everyone up the asshole just to make there investors happy is sad. Government is corrupt and it’s a damn shame they didn’t keep a close eye over this shit. Barack has his faults but would anyone like to tell me how McCain’s plan is going to work out this 300 billion dollar bail out plan to people with distressed mortgages?? I call the BS flag. Bottom line is were fucked either way...this is a bottom and we shall overcome this...This is only a tiny fraction of what I think, but I don’t feel like getting into politics. When wall street suffers we suffer, someone’s gotta pay the bill!! And mls-man it’s not only the minorities that’s on the streets now days as to every race is affected.

Shits been going on for some time(1992), now the shits starting to come out the pipe and its hittin hard

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#36163, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Oct-10-08 03:48 AM by KaptainMyke

          

Yeah when gas goes down that's the time to really get worried!



Lyndon Larouche on the bailout...one day before the house finally passed it a second time:



If you don't vote on this, THEY WILL KILL YOU!

To the public eye, and everyone knows this, and they admit it....but so?

What are you going to do about it?

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#36167, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Like I said in the other thread, if you don't vote, YOU are the problem.

We're royally fucked six ways from Sunday. The rich old fucks in the government are looking out for themselves no matter what lipservice they pay us in their campaign advertisements. Just as you see your job as a chore, so do they see their jobs. Nobody in this country gives a flying fuck about what is right for the country as a whole. It's all about individual "rights" and handouts. Fuck that.

Now we've just allowed our "representatives" to cut the biggest blank check in the history of the world to the wealthiest individuals in the country and we can't take it back. There's no stop-pay on that shit. It's done and we will be paying for it forever. When the dollar finally becomes the worthless piece of green paper it's destined to become, and you see your children and grandchildren working in the 22nd century equivalent of a South American sweatshop because the Euro, Yen, and and even the fucking Drachma buy two plus dollars on the market, it will all make sense.

I firmly believe that if everyone went out and voted, even for the least known of the MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THIS YEAR, that such voter turn out would send a message to those career politicians that the people are finally sick and tired of their self-serving bullshit and are getting involved. If EVERYONE was voting, these Washington fatcats might be a little more interested in serving the best interests of their constituents.

When lobbyists and big business are more interested and involved in what goes on in Washington than the actual voters, who do you think these politicians are going to be working for?

In 2004, less than 61% of the voting eligible population (VEP) of the United States voted for the president. That's little more than half the people who are eligible to vote in this country.

COME ON, PEOPLE. THERE ARE NO WASTED VOTES. EVER. YOUR BALLOT SENDS A MESSAGE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MCCAIN VS. OBAMA. THIS IS ABOUT SHOWING THESE COCK HOLSTERS THAT YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT. TURN OFF THE GODDAMNED TV, LOOK BEYOND YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE PERSONAL LIFE AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO BE A PART OF THIS COUNTRY.

Simply put, if you don't or won't vote, then you need to shut the fuck up about what is wrong with this country, because you obviously can't be bothered to actually try to do something about it.

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#36178, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Originally posted by DR1665
The rich old fucks in the government are looking out for themselves no matter what lipservice they pay us in their campaign advertisements.

While I agree that indifference to the system is a HUGE problem, this is where your problem lies. And its not just the government, its the boards and the CEO's and the regulators (hint: Dodd who we don't trust in CT) who are just looking after number 1.

It called mother fucking greed. Pure capitalism does not work for this very reason. Apparently, man is innately bad? IDK, it just sucks that people can be so indifferent to others (to the detriment of the very society that they feed off of).

The shit just disgusts me. AIG taking a "training seminar" spending tens of thousands on freaking facials and the like while being "saved" by the government (its OK, they already had that planned). And Lehman execs making sure to get their millions while the company goes down the tank.

Bah, I'm really for the madman to walk into one of these boardrooms and just start firing away. These guys do this crap with such arrogance and impunity. They have basically no fear of repurcussions.

Gotta hit them in the only place it hurts, their wallets. But since we can't do that, let's just beat the fuck out of them.

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They have basically no fear of repurcussions.


Because they have none.

  

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If dead people vote, and Bush won by a handful of votes (*COUGH* Florida)....then don't you think your vote does not matter?

It's funny, you even somewhat agree partially on even your own arguments, Brian. There's nothing we can do about it, either.



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#36229, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Originally posted by DR1665
Like I said in the other thread, if you don't vote, YOU are the problem.


While you have somewhat of a point here you fail to recognize that many of us live in states that are so strongly conservative that no matter how we personally vote it really just does NOT MATTER! Indiana has eleven electoral votes, and voting against the grain here is about as productive as trying to run up the side of the Sears tower... it just won't happen, it doesn't matter, get over it.
We all have the right to vote, we also have the right to withhold our vote, most do that without forethought, while a few do it to prove a point. My vote may matter here in the Governer election, the senetorial election and the house representative election (where we really don't have shit for a say anyway) but be truthful with yourself, when was the last time that your vote really mattered when it came to a presidential election. Hell last time it didn't even matter how/if America voted, the Supreme Court chose the president for us! Our election system is fucked all to hell and there is no sign of fixing it or recognition that its not a representation of what people think outside of California, Texas, and Florida.

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i just rented that movie!

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Originally posted by KaptainMyke
Rockefeller, JP Morgan, FEMA and Homeland Security.


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#36487, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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Here is an article I wrote about it:

Who Are We To Blame?
By Andrew Sondag


In the wake of our current economic crisis, fingers are being pointed in every direction. There are talks of greedy CEOs biting off far more than they can chew while still getting their bellies filled with fat. Some say that Republicans and their deregulated economic policies are responsible for ruining America’s future. While others say that the Democrats and their socialistic lending policies are to blame. However, there is still one group of people that has yet to receive one finger pointed in its direction. That group is the American people.

It’s mostly agreed upon that this current financial crisis began with the sub prime mortgage crisis. That is, that lenders were giving out loans to people that clearly didn’t have the means to pay them back. Once people started defaulting on their loans, and the companies started raising debts in the billions of dollars, Wall Street investors started questioning the livelihood of the companies. Stock prices dropped through the floor.

Some people will blame the corporate CEOs and Republicans for this. They claim that the CEOs kept giving out more and more loans to try and turn an ever growing profit, while the Republicans sat idly with big grins on their faces. And it’s easy to blame the CEOs. People love to blame CEOs for the simple reason that they are wealthier than the rest of us. Americans love to chastise the wealthy for wanting to make more money as if it some sort of vice. As if the middle class would be better off by investment banking firms around the country changing their mission statements to “making just enough money to get by”. It is corporate greed that allows a small business to get off its feet via a loan from one of these monstrous investment banks. It’s also corporate greed that allows most Americans to acquire a loan to own a home. All of this “greed” simply expands our economy. So, as easy as it is to blame CEOs, they aren’t the ones truly responsible.

Then there is the argument that Democratic government is to blame. While they certainly are a culprit, they don’t carry the full weight of the crash. Legislation that allowed socialistic lending properties are definitely one of the causes of this economic crisis, but they are not who should receive the blame. Legislation, like the kind that forced Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to push more and more loans down the throats of low and middle income families, opened the door to economic failure. But, while government action opened the door to failure, it was the people who stepped through.

Just because the government pushes home loan companies to give loans out to people who can’t afford to pay them back doesn’t necessarily mean that more bad loans will be given out. There needs to be people that want these bad loans. These are people who are making $20,000 a year and think they can somehow afford a $1,000,000 home. These are the people to blame for this economic crisis. These Americans stumbled into a real estate office, were convinced they could afford a home way out of their price range, and walked proudly out with a loan they would default on 5 months later.

One could even make the argument that the real estate companies tried to trick these low and middle income families into believing they could afford a home well outside their price range. However, the fault still lies on the backs of Americans. These people weren’t tricked into buying a $20 late-night T.V. product. They were tricked into buying a home. To make possibly the biggest single purchase of their lifetimes without any research or foresight is simply naïve and irresponsible. The single deciding factor was their lending agent, who stood to make a profit, telling them how affordable their out of reach dream home was. The American people and their lack of sense is what has created this financial mess, and now we are dependent on the market to clean it up.

But don’t worry. The economy will bounce back. But, if there is one thing we should take from this whole mess, it is to simply leave the market alone. Regulating the free-market is like building a dam in an almost flooded river. The water is still going to get to the other side, just in a less efficient, less predictable way, while making a huge mess in the process. People aren’t responsible enough to accept any help that the government is willing to offer. Private investment companies realize this, which is why they have standards on who they give loans to. Trying to “help” low income families by giving them loans they can’t afford is asking for failure. So the next time a politician attempts to win your vote by blaming someone from the other side. Just remember, this is the fault of the American people.



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#36494, "RE: Who's administration is really behind the current Financial Crisis."
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#36542, "whats probaby the real deal..."
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This is what's probably wrong the most with our country: Uneducated and self-centered. Our education scores are at the world's lowest in comparison to other non-3rd world status. Canada ranks as the highest in the world! Over half this country cares more about themselves or their direct family rather than helping out others in need. We are too busy caring about our own little worlds to notice.

Now if you take the 2 together, you realize they go hand in hand. America is dumbing itself into a new world system. I say 'system, but what I really mean is 'order'. A new world that is being progressed before our very eyes.

Nobody notices, because as long as it doesn't interfere with paying the bills, masterbating, drinking, smoking, and watching Sex in the City on DVD - then everything in the world is complete, right?

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#36543, "RE: whats probaby the real deal..."
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You say that our scores are the lowest in the world, but there are waiting lists for people who want to come to this country for an education.

Even though we are 'dumbing' ourselves down, we still have some of the highest productivity in the world per capita.

I think as a whole this country is in a lot better shape than people are willing to give it credit for.

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#36544, "RE: whats probaby the real deal..."
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Originally posted by freelancefool
You say that our scores are the lowest in the world, but there are waiting lists for people who want to come to this country for an education. Even though we are 'dumbing' ourselves down, we still have some of the highest productivity in the world per capita. I think as a whole this country is in a lot better shape than people are willing to give it credit for.


Yeah, I agree. As long as people still believe in this country and continue to care - there is hope for us yet.

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Originally posted by freelancefool
You say that our scores are the lowest in the world, but there are waiting lists for people who want to come to this country for an education.

I think what he was talking about was schooling up through high school that has problems. Our Collegiate system is the best in the world. That is the education system that people from all over want to get into. It's everything else that has issues.

Government is the most inefficient type of business.


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#36585, "RE: whats probaby the real deal..."
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Originally posted by freelancefool
Even though we are 'dumbing' ourselves down, we still have some of the highest productivity in the world per capita.


Yep... Norway has us beat (for 2007) with GDP per hour worked, we are in 2nd, I think France is 3rd.

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