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eclipse982nrRST	Aug-30-08 04:00 PM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#35553, "Oh yes, its true."

Its true everyone.

I fucked up....

AGAIN

pics to come tomorrow night.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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RE: Oh yes, its true., 420agreenvilleSC, Aug-30-08 04:21 PM, #1

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RE: Oh yes, its true., Fallen4ng31, Aug-31-08 03:24 AM, #3

RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Aug-31-08 03:50 AM, #4

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RE: Oh yes, its true., slowmitsu, Sep-01-08 01:12 PM, #6

RE: Oh yes, its true., Fallen4ng31, Sep-01-08 01:27 PM, #7

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RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-02-08 01:58 AM, #10

RE: Oh yes, its true., slowmitsu, Sep-02-08 11:26 AM, #11

RE: Oh yes, its true. PICS, eclipse982nrRST, Sep-02-08 02:13 PM, #12

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RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-02-08 03:41 PM, #14

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RE: Oh yes, its true., Flipboi89, Sep-04-08 04:51 AM, #16

RE: Oh yes, its true., 1slw97, Sep-05-08 05:26 PM, #17

RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-06-08 03:50 AM, #18

RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-06-08 03:53 AM, #19

RE: Oh yes, its true., 1slw97, Sep-06-08 06:56 AM, #20

RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-06-08 07:12 AM, #21

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RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-07-08 05:12 AM, #23

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RE: Oh yes, its true., eclipse982nrRST, Sep-07-08 03:38 PM, #25

420agreenvilleSC	Aug-30-08 04:21 PM
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#35554, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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lol, explain 'fucked up'

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cs82685	Aug-30-08 05:13 PM
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#35556, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Aug-30-08 05:14 PM by cs82685

oh you can't leave us hanging like that or else this thread may also have to be stickied emoji

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Fallen4ng31	Aug-31-08 03:24 AM
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#35562, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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40.0whp...HERE I FUCKING COME.

That speaks volumes. Pay attention to the details fellas. emoji

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eclipse982nrRST	Aug-31-08 03:50 AM
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#35563, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by Fallen4ng31
4.0whp...HERE I FUCKING COME. That speaks volumes. Pay attention to the details fellas. emoji

EDITED

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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DR1665	Aug-31-08 04:20 PM
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#35574, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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PICS OR BAN.

You have 24 hours.

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slowmitsu	Sep-01-08 01:12 PM
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#35581, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by DR1665
PICS OR BAN. You have 24 hours.

....or something along those lines.

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Fallen4ng31	Sep-01-08 01:27 PM
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#35582, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Sep-01-08 09:59 PM by Fallen4ng31

"Yes, it's true...This man has no dick." -Ghostbusters I. - P. Venkmann emoji

Jesus Christ, Mike! How the hell did you manage to do that?

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Star Turbo Talon	Sep-01-08 11:03 PM
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#35585, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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That picture is not Mike's fuck up. If you look closely, that is a 2.4l motor, not a 2.0L. Mike didnt have a 2.4L

My guess........Mikes order for his new engine was fucked up by howell!

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cs82685	Sep-02-08 12:30 AM
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#35586, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Sep-02-08 12:35 AM by cs82685

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
That picture is not Mike's fuck up. If you look closely, that is a 2.4l motor, not a 2.0L. Mike didnt have a 2.4L My guess........Mikes order for his new engine was fucked up by howell!

good god, how in the world can you tell from the little bit of info in that pic that that's a 2.4? And maybe mike fucked up by buying a 2.4L that was toast to begin with

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-02-08 01:58 AM
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#35587, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Pics to come tonight. Its not THAT bad of a fuck up compared to that pic.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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slowmitsu	Sep-02-08 11:26 AM
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#35601, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by cs82685
good god, how in the world can you tell from the little bit of info in that pic that that's a 2.4?

Because Terry is a sharp guy. If it were a wider angle shot where you could see the block deck it would be even more obvious but once you've seen enough sloped SRT-4 pistons they stand out like sore thumbs...even when a valve snaps off the stem. emoji

You're good Terry.

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-02-08 02:13 PM
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#35609, "RE: Oh yes, its true. PICS"
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Well here is the fuckup.

I was drilling/tapping my Venom fuel rail to accept a -6AN fitting on the supply/feed side and I did not realize how thin the wall was, drilled the hole out and tapped it and see what hapened. I kind of went too thin above the injector and it opened up the hole for the injector itself, well, kind of oval now.

So, do you think this should still seal okay with the oring? I personally do not see it being a problem sealing, but could it effect the injector spray pattern or anything else?

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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Star Turbo Talon	Sep-02-08 03:32 PM
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#35610, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Sep-06-08 11:45 PM by Star Turbo Talon

Originally posted by cs82685

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon That picture is not Mike's fuck up. If you look closely, that is a 2.4l motor, not a 2.0L. Mike didnt have a 2.4L My guess........Mikes order for his new engine was fucked up by howell!

good god, how in the world can you tell from the little bit of info in that pic that that's a 2.4? And maybe mike fucked up by buying a 2.4L that was toast to begin with

I can clearly see the Stem of the valve, the very first place it hit the piston. I can see the shape of the piston as well as the cooling jacket and the cracks in the block. Your looking at the cylinder side of the valve too.

Its all in the attention to detail!

Mike and I stay just close enough on the board to know what each other is doing, not exactly the fine details but close enough to offer advise.

Mike: the rail should be ok, as long as the the sides of the o-ring seating surface is not damaged then your ok. Do not tap/thread into that region obviously. Check the fitment of the rail and injectors and make sure the rail does not use that bottoming out area to hold the injectors tight. It shouldnt and most likely doesnt but make sure. If it does, you will need to shim the mount brackets a tiny bit to take the pressure off that edge that you just thinned out.

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-02-08 03:41 PM
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#35611, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Sep-02-08 03:41 PM by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon

Originally posted by cs82685

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon That picture is not Mike's fuck up. If you look closely, that is a 2.4l motor, not a 2.0L. Mike didnt have a 2.4L My guess........Mikes order for his new engine was fucked up by howell!

good god, how in the world can you tell from the little bit of info in that pic that that's a 2.4? And maybe mike fucked up by buying a 2.4L that was toast to begin with

I can clearly see the face of the valve, the very first place it hit the piston. I can see the shape of the piston as well as the cooling jacket and the cracks in the block. Your looking at the cylinder side of the valve too. Its all in the attention to detail! Mike and I stay just close enough on the board to know what each other is doing, not exactly the fine details but close enough to offer advise. Mike: the rail should be ok, as long as the the sides of the o-ring seating surface is not damaged then your ok. Do not tap/thread into that region obviously. Check the fitment of the rail and injectors and make sure the rail does not use that bottoming out area to hold the injectors tight. It shouldnt and most likely doesnt but make sure. If it does, you will need to shim the mount brackets a tiny bit to take the pressure off that edge that you just thinned out.

Terry, I put a decent amount of force to it at the shop and it didnt move. I didnt think it would be a issue of sealing around the oring since nothing was damaged on the round edges, but I thought it could possibly effect the spraying pattern, that was my only concern.

Now thursday I will be bitching at my Matco dealer for not selling a self bottoming tap in that size emoji

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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Star Turbo Talon	Sep-02-08 05:01 PM
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#35612, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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nah it wont effect your spray pattern.

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Flipboi89	Sep-04-08 04:51 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2007 392 posts,

#35638, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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mike you can change your sig back to 400 again... unless you screw up again lol

Car Status: P0140 o2 circuit number bank 1 sensor 2 Cel. Ill fix it tomorow lol.

Estimated mileage on engine: 15,xxx

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1slw97	Sep-05-08 05:26 PM
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#35658, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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I done the same thing with my fuel rail...lol

I had to put 2 really small washers in there and 2 o rings on top of the injector... It worked, but going to get new one...

97 Eclipse GS, 2.2 stroker,Gt35R,MSNS,E85 @20psi. 450hp 370tq..With issues

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-06-08 03:50 AM
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#35663, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by 1slw97
I done the same thing with my fuel rail...lol I had to put 2 really small washers in there and 2 o rings on top of the injector... It worked, but going to get new one...

Yeah I am thinking of selling this one on ebay and making a custom rail. I dont know what to do.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-06-08 03:53 AM
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#35664, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by 1slw97 I done the same thing with my fuel rail...lol I had to put 2 really small washers in there and 2 o rings on top of the injector... It worked, but going to get new one...

how did you use 2 orings?

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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1slw97	Sep-06-08 06:56 AM
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#35668, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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97 Eclipse GS, 2.2 stroker,Gt35R,MSNS,E85 @20psi. 450hp 370tq..With issues

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-06-08 07:12 AM
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#35669, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by 1slw97

AHHH, Thank you sir.

I think I am going to use a washer in every hole in the rail. I think just one oring should be okay for me though. I couldnt slap 2 on there anyways because there is not enough room on the injector itself to do so. My injectors are diff from yours. Although I dont need a washer in every hole, I think I will do so, just so all are spaced correctly like each other...

Thanks for the info buddy.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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Star Turbo Talon	Sep-06-08 11:47 PM
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#35672, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Mike, when I bore my Fuel rails i bore them all the way through. You dont need that bottom in the bore. I wouldnt add a washer, not nec

Terry

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-07-08 05:12 AM
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#35673, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Mike, when I bore my Fuel rails i bore them all the way through. You dont need that bottom in the bore. I wouldnt add a washer, not nec Terry

I just dont want the aluminum to fold and the injector push through the rail...it is pretty thin Terry.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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Star Turbo Talon	Sep-07-08 10:26 AM
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#35674, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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With the electrical plug it shouldnt be able to. Whatever you think is best go for it.

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eclipse982nrRST	Sep-07-08 03:38 PM
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#35675, "RE: Oh yes, its true."
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
With the electrical plug it shouldnt be able to. Whatever you think is best go for it.

Yeah thats true, I never thought about that.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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