For those who noticed, Dino took the board down this morning. Sure, it's April Fools, but this is far more serious. Many of you do not know this, but since we have ZERO paying sponsors, Dino has been paying for this site out of his own pocket for a couple years, now.

As you can imagine, paying more than $100 a month for a site this big can get old really quick. So since he shut the board down this morning, I have turned it back on and BANNED DINO so he can't get in to take it down again.

Of course, he can still contact the host and have it turned off at that end, but I've also spoken with Juan on the phone and we're prepared for that situation. In the meantime, I could only afford to bring the site back up for one month. In MAY, this site will become a PAY SITE. Dues will be $120 a year or $25 a month.

I hope people will stick with this site through the changes that are coming down the pike. This is scary times for 2GNT.com, but we can get through them.

More details as I have them.

That's it, I quit. I'll see you guys over at www.dsmtuners.com/forums/members/thedawg-23505.html. This place is dead.

Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

I contributed to the wiki!

happy p'ple

Wow. I hate tuners....

Greg

'19 Genesis G70 3.3t AWD
'88 Chrysler Conquest TSI

Yeah I dont even drive a DSM anymore. Fuck this shit.

-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft

LOL!!!!!!

2 sets of injectors is better than 1 =)

God damn you Driggs!!! damn you to hell. I can't even afford to put the motor in my car and now you want me to pay for help with it? I'm gonna hitch hike to the SO just so I can kick you in the nuts.

Fix your sig. Jesus. You think bandwidth is free?

Our problems are solved. I figured out how to save the site.

-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft

Im not buying it last time it was the mods buying mods with donated money

We will build you bigger and stronger


Wake up and drive my ass... More like wake up and fix it.

If the opposite of Pro is Con
then the opposite of Progress is Congress

Originally posted by goalie40
Im not buying it last time it was the mods buying mods with donated money

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BPU'd skittle

yeah Ive been paying for half this site for like 2 fucking years (yeah thats how I got to be a mod, blow me) looks like Im headed back to tuners. I saw this shit coming though, thats why I bought a GSX; I sold my RS and bought a real car, a factory fucking turbo

420a = pussified eclipse.

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BPU'd skittle

I have to chime in here. $25 a month? That is fucking rediculous. Perhaps if you had 4 members... But no Now you're just alienating all the members here. No one in their right mind would pay $25 a month for access to a forum & a wiki. Hell, porn sites don't even cost more than $15 a month. Did you pick this number arbitrarily? Assuming you had even 20 members paying you'd be turning profit... I thought this was a "community" not a business.

1998 Eclipse RS-T - Totaled 4/23/09 -
1998 Eclipse GST - Stroked 2.3l, HX40 fed: Build in progress
2010 Subaru Outback Limited

I hate hipsters.

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BPU'd skittle

1998 Eclipse RS-T - Totaled 4/23/09 -
1998 Eclipse GST - Stroked 2.3l, HX40 fed: Build in progress
2010 Subaru Outback Limited

I hate hipsters.

Hell give me control of the site! I mean if every member payed the 120 I would make $120 a year x 12,728 members = $1,527,360.00 - $1,200 to keep it runing, would be a prof of $1,526,160.00 a year. Who the hell wouldn't wont to make that kind of money?

120 a year seems high, and 25 a month is retarded, thats 300 a year.

I call BS, if its not you need to adjust your prices.

Tom

98 RS 5spd.

Why not set up some sort of vendor's page and have them donate $100 annually to advertise there? 12 Vendors and you're covered, they get cheap access to their customers and we continue on how we are now?

Chris
95 Talon Esi Turbo

I contributed to the Wiki!
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Full_Talon_to_Eclipse_Conversion

meh, I'm callin' shenanigans on this one.

I mean, suddenly Ashalee is selling her rides? BryN(fuckyou)den is back? Newedgeracing is the newest member?

SHENANIGANS!!

*** EDIT *** if this is legit, no way in hell I'm going to toonerz.

I'm pretty much ignoring the Wiki

Originally posted by DR1665 Then I can count on your signing the new service agreement when it's ready in a week or two. Appreciate those who are sticking with us through the tough times. The $25/mo is intended to encourage people to sign up for the entire year at a time. Who would be so cheap as to month-to-month this place? Any funds collected above and beyond what is needed to cover the hosting bills will be re-invested back into the community. Might be a more modern forum layout. Might be free shirts, hats, and decals or even cash payouts for record breakers. This isn't NABR. This *is* a business and we're in the business of promoting the 2GNT platform. If you're looking for a free ride, then saunter on over to DSMpurity or something.

I'm pretty much ignoring the Wiki

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2 Fingers of Scotch with a milk back... Stat!

That's shitty. I come back and the site is now going to be pay to use?

Brynden

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

I was kinda pissed when I read this, but I have one question, the mod team is exempt from the charges right? If I dont have to pay $25, and the rest of the members do, thatd be great.

Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

I contributed to the wiki!

happy p'ple

I'm pretty much ignoring the Wiki

I'll pay you guys a quarter. It's considered 25.

Mike D
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I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

I have my sad face on now :|

My car isn't gray, the paint is just fading.

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

well dang I freshfailed haha.... hey driggs can I trade you my old 420a for the dues lol

My car isn't gray, the paint is just fading.

wtf... 2$ a month for each member and you got all the money you need and you still make profits.. and now if they cant afford 2$ ill understand.

If this is a joke, then thats awesome. If not then this is bullshit. I understand the fact that it takes money to maintain a site of this size, but out of 13132412354 members, no one wants to help it out? Do you realize how much information about the 420a eclipse is on here and what would be lost if the site goes down? I can't possibly comprehend the fact that everyone wants to just head over to dsmtuners. Oh and if everyone is so anti 420a now then thats cool, but it shows that some people don't know the meaning of a 2gnt enthusiasts. Just my .02 so have a nice day.

- 98 Eclipse rs turbo

I'd pay $3-$5 a month for the continued use of the site. There is a wealth of knowledge here that is second to none on the intardweb. This site has been invaluable to me on numerous occasions. I can't however justify any more than that with the size of the user base.

1998 Eclipse RS-T - Totaled 4/23/09 -
1998 Eclipse GST - Stroked 2.3l, HX40 fed: Build in progress
2010 Subaru Outback Limited

I hate hipsters.

^^^^^x2

- 98 Eclipse rs turbo

im going here . www.liquorninja.com

LED tails : Done for now!
99 eclipse rst
cobalt blue met. paint,star stage 2 upgraded t3/t460trim turbo ceramic coated , polished compressor housing, ,optima yellow top, chrome i/c piping ,front mount ntercooler ,apexi turbo timer . zeitronix wb02 ,faze oil ,boost gauge,egt ,bosch 4x plugs,kyb agx struts, pro kit springs.17''adr venomous rims,Falken azenis ,brembo dilled/slotted rotors ,turbo xs bov ,oil catch can,manual shiftknob,autometer pyrometer egt , vortech sfmu,b&m fuel pressure gauge ,accel 310cc injectors ,gasketmatched and polished intake manifold ,58mm throttle body ,no egr,polished turbonetics wastegate,fuel pump rewire,homade fcd and a lot more .LED reverse lights ,sidemarkers and tails .atx to mtx swap . South bend tz clutch . Tons more
http://imageshack.us>


http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=boosted60trimrst
My contribution to the wiki
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=crank%20arm%20spindle%20mod%20to%20fit%20power%20panels

IF YOU GUYS REALLY BELEIVE THIS YOUR DUMB!!!

If you think for a second that vendors don't pay to advertise on this site your also dumb.

hey I may be the dumb one here, but this did show up on april 1st...so if it was serious don't you think Dino would have made it happen on a different day?

DUMB DUMB DUMB members....LOL And I mean that in the utmost respect.

~Russ





Well I have no Check Engine Lights....But I just don't have a engine...LOL

1998 Eclipse RS-T - Totaled 4/23/09 -
1998 Eclipse GST - Stroked 2.3l, HX40 fed: Build in progress
2010 Subaru Outback Limited

I hate hipsters.

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Built. That's All...
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2 Fingers of Scotch with a milk back... Stat!

Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

I contributed to the wiki!

happy p'ple

The only problem I see with business advertising is, They dont respond. I have been trying to become a sponsor or vendor for over a month and no one responds to my emails here. I do powdercoating, I want to offer it to members, and help pay for some bandwidth...PM me if you are a mod and can get me INFO. cuz emailing yall is doing me no good at all. -Chris

Hmmm, I smell a ploy here...
Admins/Mods: I hope you are logging the IP's.

1998 Eclipse RS-T - Totaled 4/23/09 -
1998 Eclipse GST - Stroked 2.3l, HX40 fed: Build in progress
2010 Subaru Outback Limited

I hate hipsters.

You can advertise over at the new home of 2GNT.com!! I will see if the other vendors want to join in. I already got New Edge Racing and Mrslick Megasquirts to sign a 1 year contract to become vendors and site sponsors!

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Built. That's All...
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2 Fingers of Scotch with a milk back... Stat!

Dangit, I got Rick Rolled...

1998 Eclipse GS

GS-T Axleback|CAI|OBX 4-1 Header|AF/X UDP|

Mike D
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-97 GS (First project, 299 whp)(sold)
- 97 RS 2.6 last numbers: 306hp, 352tq @16psi (Dead, parted out)
- 99 GS OZ, Hahn Kit, 56k miles (Sold)
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- 00 Nissan Maxima GLE (Daily Driver)
- 02 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

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-Paul

Service Manuals and Guides

Originally posted by VelocitaPaola

Originally posted by DR1665but since we have ZERO paying sponsors

Ahem, "ZERO" paying sponsors? I can think of at least one paid sponsorship that recently ended, but that will be renewed.

~Russ





Well I have no Check Engine Lights....But I just don't have a engine...LOL

Wow. If this is BS, it sucks.

If its real, Its BS too.

I would never stab 2gnt.com in the back, and I would fork over some more donations, but $25 a month is just straight hillbilly garbage dude. You seriously have to be kidding? We might get free tee shirts or decals, fuck for $25 a month or $125 a year, I better be getting blow jobs from some hott ass bitches EVERY fucking night. Lets be serious here now. I can imagine $2-$5 a month from people and that would CLEARLY pay for the site and keep it running just fine. The world is going into a depression and 2gnt wants $25 a month, nice. I dont know what I would have done without this site throughout the years that I have been here, and I deff. plan on staying and donating, but not fucking 25 bones man. For the people that are going to tunerz, they should be banned anyway since they dont like this site anyways, so go fuck yourselfs fella's.

I do find it odd like last years april fools joke, but Chris is right, first of the month, means first payment for the month.

I WILL NEVER JOIN TUNERZ.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

Well, I get this shit for free. So I'm not mad anymore. Business is business, eh?

Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

I contributed to the wiki!

happy p'ple

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Built. That's All...
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www.monkeybuttpirate.com
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2 Fingers of Scotch with a milk back... Stat!

is it too late to point out that i made a donation to this site like 6 months or more ago, and still have not had my username as a 'donating 2gnt member' yet? lol... jus wonderin

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http://www.2gnt.com/quote_db.php?id=278

Outside of Corona: "That sucks, peace out..." (jamie walks away)... "Sweeet, what we doin?" -Zac
Tim's garage (prior to motor install): "Im gonna smoke real quick, that way if you fuck up I am already nicotined up" -Tim

I'm pretty much with the majority on this issue. $25 month/$120 a year is way too much if the cost for keeping the site on a yearly basis is $1200-$1500 a year. even a $15/year membership fee should cover it. (only 100 members needed then) but take the actual number of active users and you have more than enough. perhaps have a fee on the for sale forum. 1% of each sale goes towards paying for the site. (not sure how you could mandate that though, probably be a PITA and more trouble than it's worth...... just an idea)
This site has been great for me and i have learned a lot. no longer have my 2gnt but i still enjoy visiting to see what all is going on.

*Car sold*

Eh, I've been abusing this site and the members for years.. never paid a dime. Don't plan on it.. I'm sure I could pimp out Terri to Driggs on a monthly basis and that could make up the $25. LOL Besides, if I'm not a member of this site.. who the hell else would room with driggs for a weekend at the Shootout.. he smells like cat urine and dog semen, thankfully I had my olfactory nerves cauderized years ago and don't smell the stinky bastard. =)

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VW= The joy of driving
DSM= The frustration of fixing

The wonders of 2gnt chat:

Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC
is it too late to point out that i made a donation to this site like 6 months or more ago, and still have not had my username as a 'donating 2gnt member' yet? lol... jus wonderin

1998 Eclipse RS-T - Totaled 4/23/09 -
1998 Eclipse GST - Stroked 2.3l, HX40 fed: Build in progress
2010 Subaru Outback Limited

I hate hipsters.

This recession blows balls. Fuck this economy!

-matt

97 Eclipse GS-T with 6-bolt engine

Originally posted by dalesmitsu

Originally posted by djtrickee

Originally posted by dalesmitsu 25 a month-120 year is abit too much.. For those that are on a tight budget and I admit I'm one. Even at 10 bucks for every member Whoever running this really Cool forum can still make tons... think like a entrepreneur. Thank you all (Admins.-Mods) for making this community happend? Nope ain't going to tuners

uhhhh you take math class in 2nd or 3rd grade? $120 a year is too much... but $10 a month is cool? lmao.

Duh? that's what I said Dj +1 on agreeing with me that $10 a month is cool.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

We could start charging for sigs too....that was my idea but driggs thought it would be fun. Since Driggs has banned Dino, there will be nothing from stopping me (what is it some of you little crying shits called me A Dictator of an Admin?) from banning Driggs right before the end! Homan gets the second aim of the bann cannon. Fuck it I will just start removing ID's. The Arizona Cock monkee has like three of them.

What the hell is goingggg onnnnn!?!?

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1996 Eclipse RS-Turbo

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

dittoes on the adsense; many sites are ran free much larger than this, how do they keep their heads above water? Advertisements.

Who in their right mind would pay for someone to be rude to them on discussion forums?

Also, the admins need to make sure they're quite fluent in server side programming so that the private information of legit customers is kept private, and members are not sharing logins, or logins being hijacked.

Your hosting bills will increase as well for the VPN. If this is not an April fools, it fits the mold of foolishness quite well

I will be traveling to Texas to meet with Dino and a number of the Site Team members to discuss this more in depth in two weeks. If Terry would like, I can make sure he's on speaker phone for the meeting.

Until then, I have no further comments.

Yeah I guess there is no need to invite me since there is an abundance of asshole with you there!