anyone around that campus this morning? shit i just got home and watched some news. thats fucked up! what was this guy's problem? at least 20 dead including the gunman.

-matt

97 Eclipse GS-T with 6-bolt engine

i just read on msn that the toll was up to 30.....

jeez...

03 srt-4 13.130@112.47mph (n2o, stock turbo, 10/2003)
now: 20g, portfueler, bpu+++ (track/dyno times tbd...)

i farted on your wiki

Some additional info from a student on site: http://www.forumshawaii.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=306272

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BPU'd skittle

jesus christ... the bad thing is I'm guessing theres going to be a lot of videos released of this incident. people with cell phones, dig cams, security cameras? sigh, this is so horrible.

The pictures just make me sick. It doesn't seem like that long ago...opening up those big wood doors to Norris Hall, sitting in the little classrooms looking out the aging windows, bummed about my Heat & Mass Transfer grades...all the while, confident that I would live to turn in my homework. I think I'll go have a drink or four.

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
Now with more power and fewer leaks



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire

There are no words that can describe this. Probably the up there with the worst shit that could happen today.

Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

I contributed to the wiki!

happy p'ple

Yeah, worst shooting in history.

Not worst "school shooting". Worst shooting.

1998 Eclipse GS

GS-T Axleback|CAI|OBX 4-1 Header|AF/X UDP|

I think that Curtis aka BlackMagic goes to VT for engineering, I hope he is okay.

Really hits me hard seeing as I'm an engineering major as well.

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97 Talon-SOLD
95 GS-T-SOLD
08 F-150

Death toll is up to 33.. including the gunman. And 15 injured... What is happening to america?

Don't sell your car to 16 year olds...

95 Eclipse RS - Sold for 6k, totalled three days later
91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT - 3" exhaust w/ no cats, eurethane motor mounts, 300M unbreakable output shaft, kevlar faced clutch, turbo XS BOV, 99 3000gt front conversion, carbon fiber hood. Dyno'd at 386hp. - SOLD! for 5k
98 Dodge Ram 1500 Club Cab 4x4 black on black.

Curtis(BlackMagic) does go to that school, but he is OK. Sovadsm heard from him earlier today. Although one of his friends was the girl shot at the dorm room. Such a sad day.

95 GS-turbo: SOLD
92 Laser AWD- has a lot done, needs a lot more...
88 Suzuki Samurai- Daily beater/mudder

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97 Talon-SOLD
95 GS-T-SOLD
08 F-150

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BPU'd skittle

a couple weeks ago at long beach state a guy tried robbing some homes and fled into campus, proceeded into the education buildings, sat in a classrooom and busted out a knife. right in the middle of class, my friggin history methods class was two doors down!

yea wtf is happening to america is right. some of the elementary schools over here have lockdowns all the time. its really sad especially since the campusus are full of little kids.

-matt

97 Eclipse GS-T with 6-bolt engine

-97 GS (First project, 299 whp)(sold)
- 97 RS 2.6 last numbers: 306hp, 352tq @16psi (Dead, parted out)
- 99 GS OZ, Hahn Kit, 56k miles (Sold)
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- 00 Nissan Maxima GLE (Daily Driver)
- 02 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

Don't sell your car to 16 year olds...

95 Eclipse RS - Sold for 6k, totalled three days later
91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT - 3" exhaust w/ no cats, eurethane motor mounts, 300M unbreakable output shaft, kevlar faced clutch, turbo XS BOV, 99 3000gt front conversion, carbon fiber hood. Dyno'd at 386hp. - SOLD! for 5k
98 Dodge Ram 1500 Club Cab 4x4 black on black.

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BPU'd skittle

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-1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS (SOLD!)
-2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO
-2003 CBR600RR
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Maybe its because I live in a country where most people don't own guns but I just don't see how more guns would help anyone.

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95 Talon ESi-T

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BPU'd skittle

I havent read all about this but how did he get to have a sight on so many targets? I hear it was a room where they where taking a test? or did he move to different places?

Don't sell your car to 16 year olds...

95 Eclipse RS - Sold for 6k, totalled three days later
91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT - 3" exhaust w/ no cats, eurethane motor mounts, 300M unbreakable output shaft, kevlar faced clutch, turbo XS BOV, 99 3000gt front conversion, carbon fiber hood. Dyno'd at 386hp. - SOLD! for 5k
98 Dodge Ram 1500 Club Cab 4x4 black on black.

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BPU'd skittle

It didnt take them two hours to respond, But the students should have been notified earlier than this. If there are two people killed on campus, and the shooter is still on the run, you need to CLOSE CLASSES, and send everyone away until this is resolved. I find it rediculous that they didnt shut down the school as soon as they found out there was a shooter on the lose.

Don't sell your car to 16 year olds...

95 Eclipse RS - Sold for 6k, totalled three days later
91 Dodge Stealth R/T TT - 3" exhaust w/ no cats, eurethane motor mounts, 300M unbreakable output shaft, kevlar faced clutch, turbo XS BOV, 99 3000gt front conversion, carbon fiber hood. Dyno'd at 386hp. - SOLD! for 5k
98 Dodge Ram 1500 Club Cab 4x4 black on black.

-97 GS (First project, 299 whp)(sold)
- 97 RS 2.6 last numbers: 306hp, 352tq @16psi (Dead, parted out)
- 99 GS OZ, Hahn Kit, 56k miles (Sold)
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- 00 Nissan Maxima GLE (Daily Driver)
- 02 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

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BPU'd skittle

the school has over 100 buildings. its larger then your average neighborhood. when betty whitetrash gets shot next door and billy jo bub runs off, do they quarantine your neighborhood, nobody allowed out of their house?

nope.

eve state officials say that the faculty responded very appropriately to thesituation and circumstances. all this crap about not acting fast enough is media spin bullshit.

commenting on any of this is little more than speculation at best. There are far too many facts that have yet to be determined to make any logical assumptions on the causes or what would have prevented this.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing when the everything returns to status quo and your ass isn't getting shot at anymore. All that can be said about this whole incident now is:


1. The whole situation is fucked up. Thoughts and prayers go to all affected by this

2. Regardless of how school/police may or may not have handled the situation (which much is still unknown) there needs to be a plan for if/when some dick tries this shit again.

3. Students carrying guns on campus will not solve this. Period. I don't care what arguement you may have, its a bad idea.

As said above, if all students were allowed to freely carry on school grounds, some wackjob with a gun wouldn't immediately stand out. Not to mention instead of 1 dude shooting now you got classmates returning fire and that can only lead to collateral damage.

Plus, people will now be so on edge about the slightest movement/loud noise. If you allow them to carry guns, what heappens when you come running in to class late rummaging through your backpack to do something as harmless as turn of your celly, and some kid in your class perceives that sudden burts of movement as you going for a gun??? Bang you're dead.

Far too many college kids,and frankly people of any age in general, are not mature enough to be able to detatch themselves from the situation and make a rational decision on what to do as quickly as it is required in situations like that. Decisions need to be made incredibly quickly without emotional involvement like anger,etc. There is no room for overeacting at a time like that

Hell most college age kids (and many adults)don't react properly and as quickly as they need to for something commonplace like DRIVING, much less in a life or death situation involving a gun. Think of how badly people overeact when cut-off on the highway and go all road-ragey. And this situation would be far more adrenaline producing than a road rage incident. Do you really want someone with a gun and a uncontrollable temper in class next to you? Didn't think so.

The biggest issue in this whole mess imo is how did this wackjob get cleared to own a gun, much less several of them. If that fucker was on meds for being schizo or whatever the hell they are claiming now, there should've been a huge mother fucking flag on his file and that permit should've been denied.

Yes you have a right to bear arms, provided you aren't a felon or are batshiat crazy like this kid was. Someone sowhere dropped the ball on if this guy was sane or not.

Guns don't kill people, it's the crazy fucker with the gun that kills people. Don't let the liberals fool you.

Hill-dog and the rest of the anti-gun people are going to have a fucking field day with this. Sigh.


/Responsible owner of several guns
//Not a wise decision to show up at my house unannounced
///you can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands, etc.

~Sean

99 GSX
97 RS--SOLD

I contributed to the Wiki.

putting guns in the hands of a bunch of college students (esp when their AT college) is a VERY bad idea. someone gets all butthurt or drunk or starts fighting over a g/f of b/f..blam. sure, there are lots of responsible college students, but there are more irrsponsible ones. why do you think most college campuses are dry?

the kid was the killer. not guns, not by fault of the school, end of story.

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2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4x

2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R

1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-NX 75 shot, AEM CAI, P&P t/b and intake mani-SOLD

1964 Buick Electra 225-all original, all power options, 325hp, 445ft/lbs tq

Yes I'm alright, but so far it's up to 3 friends of mine that have died, and the shooter was from my high-school. I feel that the police had just as much reason to think it was a domestic event as to think it was a some crazy fucker just shooting people. I think that an e-mail should have been sent out immediately telling students to stay indoors, lock-down all the buildings, students in class stay in class, students who are not, go back to your dorms, have security guards at every entrance turning back commuters. They did this for the Morva guy last semester, and he hadn't even killed anyone on campus. After two students are shot in a dorm, there is no reason to go about the day like nothing happened. A police officer shouldn't be thinking that it was *probably* a domestic issue, they need to consider every possibility. Shit they could've asked me if it was domestic I'm friends with the girls boyfriend too. Anyways That's about all I've got to say.



ps. thanks for the new icon

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Here's what happens when you have a college shooting spree in Virginia, but the students have access to their firearms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

Have you guys seen the vids and pics he mailed to NBC? Man these people are douches, specially the anchor doing the interviews in these clips :http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/page/2/

Tries to bring video games into the mix, most of the time he cant even talk.

-matt

97 Eclipse GS-T with 6-bolt engine

after seeing these videos...why does this reek of terroristic/jihadist video tapes? the way he goes on to try and justify himself, proclaim he and others like him are "martyars" and praising others who have gone before him, denouncing people who have money, blaming his situation on persons who are better off than he. its a textbook outline! not to say it was terror related. its just eerie how similar him and terrorists videos are.

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2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4x

2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R

1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-NX 75 shot, AEM CAI, P&P t/b and intake mani-SOLD

1964 Buick Electra 225-all original, all power options, 325hp, 445ft/lbs tq

You guys have probably seen this, but:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f59_1176748483

Yeah, kinda makes me unhappy since I'm half-asian and know that this will change people's viewpoints when they see me.

1998 Eclipse GS

GS-T Axleback|CAI|OBX 4-1 Header|AF/X UDP|

Mike D
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1998 Eclipse GS

GS-T Axleback|CAI|OBX 4-1 Header|AF/X UDP|

im not on the forums much and today i came on just to look and see if anyone had posted anything and what their opinions on it all were.

Im not too into talking about it much, but what really set me off is the fact that not only has this happened, but there have been 2 recent suicides at the high school i went to.

Both of the students killed themselves i believe with handguns... the first was only a few weeks ago, the other one was today. I didnt know either of the kids but it still really makes me upset. Just as the virginia tech incident has. Before all of this i didnt have an opinion about gun laws, now when i try to create one, i still cant. In the virginia tech incident perhaps they may have helped. But in the incidents in my local city of Mentor, it seems making them harder to reach would have been better.

im really confused.

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~Sean

99 GSX
97 RS--SOLD