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IrfanSep-15-01 10:44 AM
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#3662, "sign of warped rotors?"


          

well im looking for an excuse to get my mom to get new rotors, but i cant lie..

when i brake i put the tranny in neutral, then brake.. and sometimes it feels like the braking isnt consistent... feels like im letting off the brakes and then on again.. but im pressing firm. feels like mayeb the pads arent makign full contact... could this be the lines stretching, pads? (i just got new pads 10000 miles ago, so i have 10K to go... or the rotorS? or maybe its normal?

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RE: sign of warped rotors?, RxR_Eclipse, Sep-15-01 12:36 PM, #1
RE: sign of warped rotors?, littledog, Sep-15-01 04:30 PM, #2
RE: sign of warped rotors?, RxR_Eclipse, Sep-15-01 05:30 PM, #3
RE: sign of warped rotors?, HadesOmega, Sep-18-01 08:21 PM, #4
RE: sign of warped rotors?, Irfan, Sep-19-01 07:25 AM, #5
      RE: sign of warped rotors?, Marctronixx, Sep-19-01 09:29 AM, #6
           RE: sign of warped rotors?, Amish_Eclipse, Sep-21-01 02:54 PM, #7
                RE: sign of warped rotors?, Amish_Eclipse, Sep-21-01 02:57 PM, #8
                     RE: sign of warped rotors?, Irfan, Sep-21-01 04:22 PM, #9
                          RE: sign of warped rotors?, vegasdsmr, Sep-21-01 07:57 PM, #10
                               RE: sign of warped rotors?, Irfan, Oct-28-01 02:26 PM, #11
                               RE: sign of warped rotors?, Super20G, Oct-29-01 04:13 AM, #12
                                    RE: sign of warped rotors?, Irfan, Oct-29-01 06:52 AM, #13
                                         RE: sign of warped rotors?, Fast420A, Oct-29-01 07:11 AM, #14
                                              RE: sign of warped rotors?, RS_Guy, Oct-30-01 08:13 AM, #15
RE: sign of warped rotors?, thedawg, Oct-31-01 05:40 AM, #16
      RE: sign of warped rotors?, Irfan, Oct-31-01 06:46 PM, #17

RxR_EclipseSep-15-01 12:36 PM
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#3663, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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Dude it only took me one time on the track to kill the crappy mitsu rotors, and yes that is what it feels like. Some people refer to it as "leapfrogging". Give nopi or summit a call and get the Brembro vented rotors, It almost felt like I got ABS after I installed them and a new set of racing brake pads. I havent been able to overheat or warp them yet and I am VERY hard on them (I go through a set of front pads about every two trips to the track). You should get them soon, if you had to stop quickly at high speed(70 or above) the car would shake so hard you would proboly loose control. good luck.

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#3664, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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RxR, what kind of momo's do you have?


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RxR_EclipseSep-15-01 05:30 PM
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#3665, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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I got the 5 spoke 3 piece ones, they are powder coated silver and finished in a silver flak. I cant rember the name of them and the instructions were in Italian, yes they came with instructions no joke. When I get my camera back this weekend ill send you a pic.

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Autometer gauges/pillar pod
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Clear front corners
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Racing stripes (one 2" one 6" side by side down the passenger side)
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HadesOmegaSep-18-01 08:21 PM
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#3666, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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LAST EDITED ON 19-Sep-01 AT 01:25 AM (PST)

You can tell they're warped if you feel pulsating when braking. You shouldn't put it in neutral when your braking either. At least for manual I'm sure because your only using the brakes to slow the car down, if you use the engine and the brakes to slow the car down you won't get much fade. Only the other hand upgrading brakes will certainly help, I get tons of fade now, I think it's because my pads are wearing out. I'm looking in doing a 2 piston caliper upgrade.

Oh yeah I was planning on doing this myself when I get a little cash (damn intercooler) but at www.R-speed.com they are selling crossdrilled/slotted rotors. I don't hear NE1 talk about crossdrilled/slotted rotors just drilled or slotted but I still want em. They're selling them for 35 each so you can't beat that price, hell I might get the rear one while I'm at it. My theory on these rotors are that they are mildly drilled and slotted, so they're no full race rotors, so they might last a little longer and resist cracking due to not being extreme. I might just do this so I have something for now before I actually go out and do the 2 piston mod.


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IrfanSep-19-01 07:25 AM
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#3667, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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im always weary of no-name brands.. something fishy abotu 35 bucks each.. but cross drilled and slotted woudl be awesome. i dotn like keeping it in gear when i brake, i feel like its just straining the tranny for no reason.. id rather replace pads then a tranny.

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#3668, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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yeah wne you use the trans to brake, you are putitng all of the energy form the tires to the engine.. that will put stress on the motor.. i drive fire trucks (but not for long...) and when we run emergency, it is advised that we dont use the engine when braking (on manual X-mission engines) because of this undue stress and wear.. hell, if thats what the big names in diesel engines (segraves, E-one, Pierce, Detriot Diesel) recommend, thats what imma do in my lil ol gas eingine car.. :p

my advice, when you are slowing down, keep it in gear.. when you see (or feel.. if your good enuff to feel this) the tach drop to regular idle, downshift and then do the same until you get to first...less wear on the brakes and less gas wasted.. just my 10 cents (w/interest)




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Amish_EclipseSep-21-01 02:54 PM
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#3669, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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Irfan, when your stoppin don't shift to neutral than brake. brake while in gear than shift down to your next lowest gear and let the clutch out slow just to where it hits the gear and the engine will bring the trans up just let it out slow or your synchros will shit a brick. eventually when you downshift try to tap the gas to bring your revs up to where it would be in that gear at that speed.

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#3670, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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if your just drivin normal a general rule of thumb on that rev matchin thing is to just rev to 3k rpms than drop the clutch

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IrfanSep-21-01 04:22 PM
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#3671, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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how can i mess the synchros if im just going to a stop while in neutral? i know all about double clutching, but i only do that if im not coming to a COMPLETE stop.

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#3672, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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youll mess the synchros if your goin like 70 and you drop it in 2nd to slow down(that is if you can). the engine wont be able to handle the down shift, and there they go................

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IrfanOct-28-01 02:26 PM
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#3673, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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yeah, so why are peopel sayying i'll mess them up if i put it in neutral to stop

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#3674, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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I guess the tranny is pretty strong then cause I went to shift 4th at over 100 and hit 2nd and tacked past revlimit and then bounced back to rev limit and threw off my accessory belts... put new belts on and all is good, thank god.
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IrfanOct-29-01 06:52 AM
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#3675, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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damn! 2nd gear at 100?!?! must be pretty tough.

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#3676, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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Usually you have to shift out of 2nd at 65mph and out of 3rd at 100mph. I think RS_GUY did that same thing once and said that his car reved all the way to 9000 rpm or so and it was still okay. At that point the 7200 rpm rev limit doesn't do anything because the gearing makes the engine go to 9000. I saw a site about a guy that did the same thing to his buddy's M3. The engine came apart right away! That's amazing to me that our Chrysler engine can over rev and be fine but a fine German engineered racing engine over revs and comes apart! I love our cars!





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#3677, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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Hehe guilty as charged

I was trying to go faster so I downshifted from 5th to 2nd.. on a bone stock (at the time) 96K engine... Went somewhat past 9000rpm, coz the needle went crazy and went to the limit of the tach...

...Caught it kinda fast with the clutch, sh!t a brick, and then drove home. No problems there, and certainly no rev-limiting...

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#3678, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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Hahaha, man it feels more like you got ABS with the stock mitsu rotors! ...Vibrating like the doors are gonna come off, and no stopping power hehehehee.

Dan Green
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>get the Brembro vented rotors, It almost felt
>like I got ABS after I installed them
>You should get them soon, if you had to stop quickly at
>high speed(70 or above) the car would shake so hard
>you would proboly loose control.

  

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IrfanOct-31-01 06:46 PM
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#3679, "RE: sign of warped rotors?"
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yeah... feels like ABS.. til i hit some ice.

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