#26088, "would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?"
im thinking about running staggered wheels on the eclipse. granted we aren't rear wheel drive, but i think it would look pretty cool. what do you think?
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#26092, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 1
Originally posted by typhoid mary Maybe I'm reading this wrong but why would you run wider wheels in the back? That's totally non funtional and a little bass ackwards.
so what?
I'd look sick ass!!!
Plus, i would actually like wider tires on the rear. But I bomb corners at 70 so a little extra in the rear would be nice.
I run 215's in the front and 225's in the back.
I eat emo kids for breakfast
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#26098, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 5
Originally posted by typhoid mary
Originally posted by BumpinTalon its an Eclipse and people would assume it is AWD, so he could get away with it.
Ideally AWDs don't run staggered tire sizes either.
Ideally, but nobody ever said the import car community ever listened to common sense or technical fact when tuning their cars. if we did, ricers wouldn't exist
#26099, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 6
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
Originally posted by typhoid mary
Originally posted by BumpinTalon its an Eclipse and people would assume it is AWD, so he could get away with it.
Ideally AWDs don't run staggered tire sizes either.
Ideally, but nobody ever said the import car community ever listened to common sense or technical fact when tuning their cars. if we did, ricers wouldn't exist
You said it yourself. Bigger wheels on the back of a FWD would be the opposite of tuning and is rice. It would be a expensive and wasteful cosmetic mod. Don't do it siueclipse, you will regret it.
#26100, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 7
Originally posted by typhoid mary
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
Originally posted by typhoid mary
Originally posted by BumpinTalon its an Eclipse and people would assume it is AWD, so he could get away with it.
Ideally AWDs don't run staggered tire sizes either.
Ideally, but nobody ever said the import car community ever listened to common sense or technical fact when tuning their cars. if we did, ricers wouldn't exist
You said it yourself. Bigger wheels on the back of a FWD would be the opposite of tuning and is rice. It would be a expensive and wasteful cosmetic mod. Don't do it siueclipse, you will regret it.
listen to him ^. it's just useless weight you're going to be carrying around. unless it's completely for show, but even then, i don't know how far it would stick out, and if it were any more than the body.. GAY.
i think i remember you saying you were getting two sets of rims (drag and show) though. bigger wheels in the rear are still useless, that's why at the track, big slicks in the front, skinny's in the rear.
#26101, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 8
Originally posted by 420a-Tnthewerks bigger wheels in the rear are still useless, that's why at the track, big slicks in the front, skinny's in the rear.
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#26151, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 10
I think it would look badass. Everyone should can the "it's rice if it's not funtional" BS. Do people put rear spoilers on their FWD cars to create downforce? Nope, but it looks cool and thats great. Do people put CF hoods on their cars because it saves weight? Lemme tell you something kids, that 20 pounds of weight you saved with that hood doesn't mean anything with 100 pounds of window blasting speakers in your trunk. If people only put funtional stuff on their cars, then 95 percent of this board would be stock. Moral of the story? Dude, don't listen to haters. I think that your idea is grea if you can make it work and look good.
#26153, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 11
Originally posted by Doug96GS I think it would look badass. Everyone should can the "it's rice if it's not funtional" BS. Do people put rear spoilers on their FWD cars to create downforce? Nope, but it looks cool and thats great. Do people put CF hoods on their cars because it saves weight? Lemme tell you something kids, that 20 pounds of weight you saved with that hood doesn't mean anything with 100 pounds of window blasting speakers in your trunk. If people only put funtional stuff on their cars, then 95 percent of this board would be stock. Moral of the story? Dude, don't listen to haters. I think that your idea is grea if you can make it work and look good.
Dude, just because you like it does not mean it's not rice. People will laugh and it will look stupid. Skinnies look cool on the front of a FWD car but you don't go tooling around town with them. There is a reason cars run wider tires on the rear. It's because they are RWD. Also unless your racing lemans having a park bench on the back of the car is rice too. There is a think line between personal style and poor taste and this would be crossing that line.
#26225, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 14
WTF are you guys talking about...no one is going to notice a difference in wheel width of only 1 inch. if the diameter on both ends is 19" no ones going to see that they are 8.5 in front and 9.5 in back. its almost impossible to look at the widths of both the front and rear wheels at the same time. the only reason you shouldnt do this is that if your camber settings are different in the front, which they probably are, you cant rotate your tires. (or wouldnt want to)
#26226, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 15
Originally posted by cyan WTF are you guys talking about...no one is going to notice a difference in wheel width of only 1 inch. if the diameter on both ends is 19" no ones going to see that they are 8.5 in front and 9.5 in back. its almost impossible to look at the widths of both the front and rear wheels at the same time. the only reason you shouldnt do this is that if your camber settings are different in the front, which they probably are, you cant rotate your tires. (or wouldnt want to)
Jesus dude, let this die. He already bought his wheels a long time ago. Besides if noone can notice 1" then why do it in the first place but yes 1" is noticable if you know what your looking at. It's subtle but it's noticable.
#26231, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 16
first of all i didn't dig up this thread...i thought it was current. second of all...no you can't...you're fucking clark kent if you can look at a wheel on a side profile and tell how deep it is...way too dark, and way too small a difference in depths to notice 8.5 or 9.5 as different sizes. it's hard enough in most cases to tell a difference in diameter from the side, much less depth.
#26233, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 17
OK if we live in this imaginary world of yours where 1" is not noticable then lets go with what you said. Now ask if you can't tell a difference and you can't rotate the tires then WHY would you do it?
#26234, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 18
well, even tho this is an old thread, here is my .02. i personally wouldent put fatties out back and skinnies out front for the whole RWD look. and yeah, even on true RWD cars...that looks neat..buy what really gets me goin is to see wide tirea on all 4 corners. it gives it more of a track/racy feel...and it looks pretty appropriate. it would look ghey if you had skinnies out back and fatties up front...well, except for an all out drag car. but for cruzin around, wide tires all around looks hot..and yeah, kinda adds to the AWD look..but your not blatantly trying to pass yourself off as something your not...unlike the whole staggered idea
#26239, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 19 Jan-25-05 06:32 PM by Extreme Eclipse
YOur right this is an old thread, but I feel like replying to this thread because it applies to me. LOL. I am running a staggered set of wheels on my car, regardless of the fact I widened the car. Simply put, do what you feel. You are the owner and the person driving the car, the car is a representation of you. If you like it, go for it. Many people told me there were things I couldnt or shouldn't do on my car when I was designing it, but I am the one in the magazines and they are the ones looking back and saying damn, he actually did it. Stay true to yourself and do what makes you happy. That pertains to everyone.
In regards to the term "Rice". I would love to start a thread on this because I think the term has been blown out of porportion and I think it is a term used by the ignorent now. No offence to anyone. If you ask a domestic driver, they will basically call ANYTHING JAPANESE "Rice". In fact, everybody who is calling his car rice probably has people calling your car rice also. Let the term die. People think they sound so cool saying a car is rice, but in reality it makes people sound very uneducated and shows how small their vocabulary is. Again, I am not trying to piss people off, but seriously let the term die.
#26241, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 20
Originally posted by Extreme Eclipse YOur right this is an old thread, but I feel like replying to this thread because it applies to me. LOL. I am running a staggered set of wheels on my car, regardless of the fact I widened the car. Simply put, do what you feel. You are the owner and the person driving the car, the car is a representation of you. If you like it, go for it. Many people told me there were things I couldnt or shouldn't do on my car when I was designing it, but I am the one in the magazines and they are the ones looking back and saying damn, he actually did it. Stay true to yourself and do what makes you happy. That pertains to everyone. In regards to the term "Rice". I would love to start a thread on this because I think the term has been blown out of porportion and I think it is a term used by the ignorent now. No offence to anyone. If you ask a domestic driver, they will basically call ANYTHING JAPANESE "Rice". In fact, everybody who is calling his car rice probably has people calling your car rice also. Let the term die. People think they sound so cool saying a car is rice, but in reality it makes people sound very uneducated and shows how small their vocabulary is. Again, I am not trying to piss people off, but seriously let the term die.
As long as there are ricers the term rice will always be around. If you like widebody ecliipses then fine that's your thing and good for you if you've made into magazines. Thing is that typically if you want in a magazine with a DSM your not going to get it unless your car has some sort of body kit. I'm not saying this to offend you but seriously look at the magazines and tell me how often you see a DSM without some sort of body kit or a exotic paintjob. If they didn't put cars like yours in magazines then companies like bomex and blitz would not pay for advertising. Stock body styles don't sell advertising space.
Back to the staggered wheel issue. There is no practical application for running staggered wheels on a FWD car unless your talking about slicks in the front. Unless your trying to look "fast" or maybe trying to even out the proportions of a widebody kit then fine. Siueclipse said a long time ago that he already bought the wheels so at this point it just seems like everyone is trying to get thier two cents in here. So I ask, tell me how staggering wider wheels in the back is going to benefit the car? If your all show and no go then fine but it really does not make any sense from a performance aspect.
#26249, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 21
Originally posted by typhoid mary As long as there are ricers the term rice will always be around. If you like widebody ecliipses then fine that's your thing and good for you if you've made into magazines. Thing is that typically if you want in a magazine with a DSM your not going to get it unless your car has some sort of body kit. I'm not saying this to offend you but seriously look at the magazines and tell me how often you see a DSM without some sort of body kit or a exotic paintjob. If they didn't put cars like yours in magazines then companies like bomex and blitz would not pay for advertising. Stock body styles don't sell advertising space.
I don't exactly understand what your point is. DSM, Honda, Nissian, doesn't matter what you drive, you wont get magazine coverage without signifigant work period. Your right, people want to see cars they don't see on a regular basis so why would they publish a stock body ANYTHING. What I am saying is, DEFINE Rice!! then have everybody else define rice. I bet you anything, you all have various opinions on what rice is. Like I said, I have buddies that own Trans Am's that would call you Stock Body Eclipse Japanese Rice. Rice is a term used by the uneducated and the ignorant. Not to question your education level, but do you actually know how the term came about or do you just say it because you here everybody else saying it.
#26251, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 22 Jan-26-05 01:35 PM by typhoid mary
Originally posted by Extreme Eclipse
Originally posted by typhoid mary As long as there are ricers the term rice will always be around. If you like widebody ecliipses then fine that's your thing and good for you if you've made into magazines. Thing is that typically if you want in a magazine with a DSM your not going to get it unless your car has some sort of body kit. I'm not saying this to offend you but seriously look at the magazines and tell me how often you see a DSM without some sort of body kit or a exotic paintjob. If they didn't put cars like yours in magazines then companies like bomex and blitz would not pay for advertising. Stock body styles don't sell advertising space.
I don't exactly understand what your point is. DSM, Honda, Nissian, doesn't matter what you drive, you wont get magazine coverage without signifigant work period. Your right, people want to see cars they don't see on a regular basis so why would they publish a stock body ANYTHING. What I am saying is, DEFINE Rice!! then have everybody else define rice. I bet you anything, you all have various opinions on what rice is. Like I said, I have buddies that own Trans Am's that would call you Stock Body Eclipse Japanese Rice. Rice is a term used by the uneducated and the ignorant. Not to question your education level, but do you actually know how the term came about or do you just say it because you here everybody else saying it.
Trying to narrow down what peoples definition of rice is too difficult. Most people have varied opinions. Fine if you don't want the term used then I'll pick another. Ghetto, bling, tacky, is what I would tag a modification to the car that serves no actual funtion then to pretend the car is something it is not. It is the cancer that plauges the import scene all together. People putting wings on FWD cars, roof scoops on cars that are not competing in WRC and yes, putting wider tires and wheels on the back of a FWD car. Getting in a magazine is not difficult at all depending on the magazine and who you know. If you don't believe me then look at the pieces of crap that made it into the NOPI magazine last year. You could take a stock Eclipse and do nothing more than put an wild body kit on it and make all sorts of show type modifications to the engine bay. Slapping a mass produced body kit, chrome wheels, and a fiberglass enclosure does not constitute "rice" necessarily but it is the furthest thing away from functional performance. While it may impress one particular group of people it also feeds the stereotping that has come along with owning an import. Not everyone here wants to have a bodykitted up car nor do they want to have a big wing, lambo doors or anything else you might dream up. Some people here are actually concerned with performance.
And to answer your question about if I know where the term "rice" comes from. Yes I do, and I know that the term at least in it's original form is most likely older than you or I. It is a term that has evolved over the years and has lost the initial racial connotation that it once had. There are some things that everyone would agree is rice and then there are others that vary from person to person.
I respect the fact that you put a lot of work into your body kit and your car but you have to understand that just because you put all that work into it does not mean that some people will not still see it as "rice". While some people may like your car and think that it looks nice others will laugh at you. I myself don't care either way and I feel to each his own but at the same time I feel if you are trying to build a peformance car then why would you do something as stupid as putting larger tires and wheels on the a FWD car that has no widebody kit? I agree with you that if you are running a widebody kit it MIGHT make sense to have wider wheels in the back to even the body lines. However your car is not trying to be a 1/4 mile car or a dyno queen is it? Odds are you are going for the show value of the car instead am I right?
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. The good part about them is you don't have to like mine and I don't have to like yours. That doesn't mean we can't find a common ground here and agree to disagree.
#26252, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 23
Originally posted by typhoid mary
Originally posted by Extreme Eclipse
Originally posted by typhoid mary As long as there are ricers the term rice will always be around. If you like widebody ecliipses then fine that's your thing and good for you if you've made into magazines. Thing is that typically if you want in a magazine with a DSM your not going to get it unless your car has some sort of body kit. I'm not saying this to offend you but seriously look at the magazines and tell me how often you see a DSM without some sort of body kit or a exotic paintjob. If they didn't put cars like yours in magazines then companies like bomex and blitz would not pay for advertising. Stock body styles don't sell advertising space.
I don't exactly understand what your point is. DSM, Honda, Nissian, doesn't matter what you drive, you wont get magazine coverage without signifigant work period. Your right, people want to see cars they don't see on a regular basis so why would they publish a stock body ANYTHING. What I am saying is, DEFINE Rice!! then have everybody else define rice. I bet you anything, you all have various opinions on what rice is. Like I said, I have buddies that own Trans Am's that would call you Stock Body Eclipse Japanese Rice. Rice is a term used by the uneducated and the ignorant. Not to question your education level, but do you actually know how the term came about or do you just say it because you here everybody else saying it.
Trying to narrow down what peoples definition of rice is too difficult. Most people have varied opinions. Fine if you don't want the term used then I'll pick another. Ghetto, bling, tacky, is what I would tag a modification to the car that serves no actual funtion then to pretend the car is something it is not. It is the cancer that plauges the import scene all together. People putting wings on FWD cars, roof scoops on cars that are not competing in WRC and yes, putting wider tires and wheels on the back of a FWD car. Getting in a magazine is not difficult at all depending on the magazine and who you know. If you don't believe me then look at the pieces of crap that made it into the NOPI magazine last year. You could take a stock Eclipse and do nothing more than put an wild body kit on it and make all sorts of show type modifications to the engine bay. Slapping a mass produced body kit, chrome wheels, and a fiberglass enclosure does not constitute "rice" necessarily but it is the furthest thing away from functional performance. While it may impress one particular group of people it also feeds the stereotping that has come along with owning an import. Not everyone here wants to have a bodykitted up car nor do they want to have a big wing, lambo doors or anything else you might dream up. Some people here are actually concerned with performance. And to answer your question about if I know where the term "rice" comes from. Yes I do, and I know that the term at least in it's original form is most likely older than you or I. It is a term that has evolved over the years and has lost the initial racial connotation that it once had. There are some things that everyone would agree is rice and then there are others that vary from person to person. I respect the fact that you put a lot of work into your body kit and your car but you have to understand that just because you put all that work into it does not mean that some people will not still see it as "rice". While some people may like your car and think that it looks nice others will laugh at you. I myself don't care either way and I feel to each his own but at the same time I feel if you are trying to build a peformance car then why would you do something as stupid as putting larger tires and wheels on the a FWD car that has no widebody kit? I agree with you that if you are running a widebody kit it MIGHT make sense to have wider wheels in the back to even the body lines. However your car is not trying to be a 1/4 mile car or a dyno queen is it? Odds are you are going for the show value of the car instead am I right? Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. The good part about them is you don't have to like mine and I don't have to like yours. That doesn't mean we can't find a common ground here and agree to disagree.
"Can't we all just get along". No bro, I agree. Everybody has their own intentions and their own goals. I wish you the best of luck in your project. No hard feelings I hope. Best of luck 2 ya.
#26254, "RE: would it be stupid to run staggered wheels on an eclipse?" In response to Reply # 24 Jan-26-05 05:46 PM by typhoid mary
Whao!! I just looked at your website and your car and I have to say wow! Definately not your average widebody eclipse. The car has very nice lines and lots of hard work in it. I'm not usually one for show cars but man that is nice. You definately earned your spot in magazines.
