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foggy45May-27-04 05:59 PM
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#24088, "bearings instead of bushings"




          

i was reading an article on 300z suspension and they talked about replacing the bushings with spherical bearings.

does anyone know of a kit or some DIY info on this type of stuff for our cars?

also has anyone done solid subframe bushings?

thanks in advance

  

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RE: bearings instead of bushings, BuckNutty, May-27-04 07:20 PM, #1
RE: bearings instead of bushings, mcgyvr, May-28-04 10:53 AM, #2
RE: bearings instead of bushings, turbo8u, May-28-04 11:15 AM, #3
RE: bearings instead of bushings, foggy45, May-28-04 07:05 PM, #4
      RE: bearings instead of bushings, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, May-29-04 10:42 AM, #5
           RE: bearings instead of bushings, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, May-29-04 10:49 AM, #6
                RE: bearings instead of bushings, BuckNutty, May-29-04 03:06 PM, #7
                     RE: bearings instead of bushings, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, May-29-04 03:12 PM, #8

BuckNuttyMay-27-04 07:20 PM
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#24089, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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you have a link to that article?? I would love to read it IMO.

  

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mcgyvrMay-28-04 10:53 AM
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#24107, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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no reason why you couldnt.
but the ride will be a stiff one, just invest in the best spring/shock setup
its almost just like replacing the bushings with steel rod with a hole drilled in it

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turbo8uMay-28-04 11:15 AM
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#24108, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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yea holy shit, talk about a stiff ride. get the energy suspension bushing set, i have it and i love it

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foggy45May-28-04 07:05 PM
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#24128, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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here nutty

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0405scc_project300z/

i was hoping to transfer a set of prothanes to steel and see if that works?

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonMay-29-04 10:42 AM
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#24137, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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here is somethign to think about.

On harley FXR the rear swingarm is the early 70's had actual ball bearings in it's pivot. Now you know a swingarms does not move much with the springs only liek 10 degrees. If you take off the shocks and make the rear a Hardtail...that is you weld in hard steel so the rear no longer has a spring cushion....you MUST weld the bearings solid because the bearing cannot take the shock load. What happenes is the bearings dent from the road condition till they no longer sit in the races and fall out! Now i know you are not making the suspension rigid however you will need very high quality bearings so they do not get damaged and fall apart after a month...obviously roller bearings will not work.

just food for thought if ya feel like giving it a try.

Terry
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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonMay-29-04 10:49 AM
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#24138, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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I just read that article and the only ball bearings they are installing are the adjustable links. the rest of the suspension is using heim joints. heim joints are not ball bearing and are very strong. All the stress joint that kit are heim joints...you can get these joints at and speed shop. They are used in most all drag cars, kit cars, and 30's hot rods. Very common part but stainless steel are very expensive....as high as 30.00 a joint. I have a set of rear swaybar links made of hiemjoints so i could have them adjustable. I have since removed them because the side affect of heim joints is...they are noisy.

Terry

96 Eagle talon ESI
Star Stage II - Boost/oil/EGT gauges

97 Eclipse
Greddy header/evo exhaust - Stage 2 6 puck Sprung hub MIBA clutch - Shortened shifter - Koni Yellows w/eibach prokit - Stillen Fr/Rr swaybars - ceramic intake - DEI Keyless entry alarm - Niche 17" Shoks

Waiting to be installed: Apexi AFC, HKS EVC IV, ceramic intake, 450 Turbo injectors, SFMU/return line, GSX Front brakes (need rotors)

  

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BuckNuttyMay-29-04 03:06 PM
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#24144, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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werd...my car is noisy as hell anyway...may as well make it a lil worse.

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonMay-29-04 03:12 PM
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#24145, "RE: bearings instead of bushings"
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if thats the case gimme 20.00 and i will send you the links i have for the rear SB.

lol
Terry

96 Eagle talon ESI
Star Stage II - Boost/oil/EGT gauges

97 Eclipse
Greddy header/evo exhaust - Stage 2 6 puck Sprung hub MIBA clutch - Shortened shifter - Koni Yellows w/eibach prokit - Stillen Fr/Rr swaybars - ceramic intake - DEI Keyless entry alarm - Niche 17" Shoks

Waiting to be installed: Apexi AFC, HKS EVC IV, ceramic intake, 450 Turbo injectors, SFMU/return line, GSX Front brakes (need rotors)

  

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