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donnyb373Mar-27-06 09:27 PM
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on injector size to run with megasquirt, i got everything i need, and am currently waitign for my head to come back from the machine shop, with that said, i want to run up to 28psi on 110oc at the track but keep the boost modest at say 18-20 for daily, what size injectors would you guys think could handle this amount of work?

  

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RE: need some suggestions, selmerguy2003, Mar-28-06 02:14 AM, #1
RE: need some suggestions, donnyb373, Mar-28-06 05:30 PM, #2
      RE: need some suggestions, Teamdougie2, Mar-29-06 04:12 AM, #3
           RE: need some suggestions, donnyb373, Mar-29-06 05:16 PM, #4
                RE: need some suggestions, Teamdougie2, Mar-30-06 04:32 AM, #5
                     RE: need some suggestions, donnyb373, Mar-30-06 10:58 AM, #6

selmerguy2003Mar-28-06 02:14 AM
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#1919, "RE: need some suggestions"
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Big ones... Doug just did 26 psi with 680 or 720s. (to lazy to look at post right belw this one) Take a look at his post and it should help you alittle.

  

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donnyb373Mar-28-06 05:30 PM
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lol

  

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Teamdougie2Mar-29-06 04:12 AM
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#1928, "RE: need some suggestions"
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Give us a little more info about your setup so we know how much fuel you need. Assuming you have the typical built motor and Hahn S16G setup, put a set of 625cc injectors in there and you'll have enough fuel.



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donnyb373Mar-29-06 05:16 PM
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#1930, "RE: need some suggestions"
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Originally posted by dougie2
Give us a little more info about your setup so we know how much fuel you need. Assuming you have the typical built motor and Hahn S16G setup, put a set of 625cc injectors in there and you'll have enough fuel.


heh heres the list..lol

je pistons .20 overbore
crank scraper
gt35r turbo from forced performance
tial bov
tial wg
walbro fuel pump with a bosh inline
megasquirt (not running car yet but installed)
sfmu with 30# injectors
denso iridium splugs 2 ranges colder
accell wires
zeitronix wb with boost egt with display

im waiting to hear from a local machine shop about making a custom intake manifold so well see..lol

and im still running on stock head but have another head in the machine shop right now, they are putting new brass guides in 1mm oversized vavles new seals and such and ther doing a full race port and polish

i wish i could find a equal legnth manifold for this turbo, right now im running my old t3/t4 on a log manifold the gt35r will go on when i get new injectors and have mega squirt tuned in with a good base map


does that help??...lol....also dougie can you get me the part # you have for the 1/2 studs and cam tower bolts i was on the phone for 30 min with arp and they were pretty much dumbfounded on what i wanted...lol...

  

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Teamdougie2Mar-30-06 04:32 AM
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#1931, "RE: need some suggestions"
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Mar-30-06 04:38 AM by dougie2



          

In that case, you're likely going to need injectors that'll flow 800+ cc/min. It really all depends on how much power you're realistically going to try to make. If you're looking to push that turbo hard (30-40 PSI), then go ahead and get 1000cc fuel injectors... but if you're going to stay in the 18-28 PSI range, you should be fine with 750-850 cc/min.

The part number for ARP cam tower studs is: 141-1001

There is no part number for 1/2" ARP head studs, because they don't make a kit. You have to call ARP and order them ala carte, meaning you need to take measurements yourself and tell them each individual stud, washer and nut that you need.

I want to make sure you understand that you probably don't even need to go through the trouble to install the bigger head studs for the setup you've described. The standard 420A head stud kit that ARP makes works GREAT. It's only neccessary when you have extremely high cylinder pressures due to very aggressive valve timing, aggressive ignition timing, high boost, and low RPM nitrous injecton... all together. Boost pressure alone doesn't push the cylinder pressures to extreme highs, it's in the tuning. If you were going to be injecting nitrous too, then I'd say go ahead and machine the parts for bigger studs. Either way, the chances are very good that the head will lift regardless of what you do. Any tiny bit of detonation that occurs at that level, will at least pop a headgasket FAST. It's all part of having lots of horsepower with a small motor. No one just "runs" a big turbo four cylinder at 30 PSI boost. They "maintain" it.

If you're going to install the bigger studs anyway, then you'll need to get new head alignment dowel pins, and bore them out in a lathe with a 0.515" drill bit. You'll need to find a machine shop that can fixture the block perfectly level, drill it out, then re-tap for the larger studs. It's not easy.



Doug

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www.xtremefabrications.com

  

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donnyb373Mar-30-06 10:58 AM
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#1932, "RE: need some suggestions"
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the machine shop im goin through is know for ther "race engines" mostly big block v8s but they have experiance with i4s, i want to throw in the 1/2" studs just as a precaution in the case that i am not satisfied with 30psi or the power the engine makes at that level, so n2o is a possiblity, Im just looking for a good company to make a semi equal length manifold for this butifull turbo i have, id hate to throw it on a junky ass log manifold

  

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