Sup guys,
I want to confirm on this, if I got the Long Rod Howell bottom end kit. and I buy the JE piston rings from concept illusion, they will fit right?

coz the long rod kit comes with different rod and piston, so I just want to make sure all JE piston uses the same piston rings
(of course 0.020 over for mine)

Thanks.
Gil

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Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
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2010 Audi S5 Quattro

Gil, keep it in one post. Your question was answered already. Now what is the difference of long rod to stock? offset wristpin, custom rod. There is nothing modified about the rings. .020 over regular piston rings will work with .020 over longrod pistons. .020 over is .020 over.

Thanks, just want to make sure.

~~~~~~~~Modification~~~~~~~~
Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
Interior: Racing Seats, Metallic Interior, 15-Speakers System, Keyless, Dynomat Insulated, Neons...
Exterior: 1999 Body with turbo wing, Halo Projector Headlight, 4300K HID, 17" Mille Rims, GSX Calipers...
Coming Soon: Water Injection, Redo Undercarriage, Repaint Exterior


$240 For New Complete GSX Calipers Kit (Calipers, Bracket, Shim, Pad, Bolts, etc) Email Me If Interested!

1995 RED Eclipse GS-'T': Stage VI 20PSI
2010 Audi S5 Quattro

I used the total seals that came with the je's. I have seen quite a few people that hate those, hope mine turn out good.

Kevin
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Actually, no - the longrod uses a different oil ring setup than standard - they use an "oil ring stbilizer" below the oil baffler ring set.

Don't believe me? Ask grain, he just got hosed by this.

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That xtra oil ring support is a bitch, it keeps wanting to slip under the oil rings. Im installing the pistons tonight, I'll let you know how it goes.

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ok...
So you saying, I cannot use any set of rings except the total seal rings that comes with it?

AFter talking to Gary, I tend to use total seal rings, but I want to make sure on this.

Can I use JE piston rings (.020 over) and use that oil ring supporter? or it just DOESN"T WORK???

~~~~~~~~Modification~~~~~~~~
Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
Interior: Racing Seats, Metallic Interior, 15-Speakers System, Keyless, Dynomat Insulated, Neons...
Exterior: 1999 Body with turbo wing, Halo Projector Headlight, 4300K HID, 17" Mille Rims, GSX Calipers...
Coming Soon: Water Injection, Redo Undercarriage, Repaint Exterior


$240 For New Complete GSX Calipers Kit (Calipers, Bracket, Shim, Pad, Bolts, etc) Email Me If Interested!

1995 RED Eclipse GS-'T': Stage VI 20PSI
2010 Audi S5 Quattro

kinda sounds like those je rings will not work.

Kevin
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i used hastings rings from howell. you can use any ring thats .020 over and for this car. but you need to use the support ring. it looks like a compression ring, that you stick on the bottom of the oil groove.

also gary, you guys are not good at making next day deliveries. even when you ship wrong parts.

I just installed these last night, it was a BIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. That stupid stablizer ring kept the oil ring from sitting correctly. It took a couple of hrs of tediouse work to get them all in. The pistons move pretty freely so I guess they are in correctly. If I had known those would be like that I would have ordered the standard kit, not the long rod kit. I really don't think I will be able to tell the power diff on anything but a dyno anyway.

Kevin
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If it's that hard to install.... I am worrying maybe even the machine shop won't do it good.

??? maybe they just install it, and let it be!

.... worried.
Gil

~~~~~~~~Modification~~~~~~~~
Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
Interior: Racing Seats, Metallic Interior, 15-Speakers System, Keyless, Dynomat Insulated, Neons...
Exterior: 1999 Body with turbo wing, Halo Projector Headlight, 4300K HID, 17" Mille Rims, GSX Calipers...
Coming Soon: Water Injection, Redo Undercarriage, Repaint Exterior


$240 For New Complete GSX Calipers Kit (Calipers, Bracket, Shim, Pad, Bolts, etc) Email Me If Interested!

1995 RED Eclipse GS-'T': Stage VI 20PSI
2010 Audi S5 Quattro

lol, it took me like 20 minutes to re-ring all the pistons, and have them bolted into the block in the car.

John, were yours .40 over? I think that was/is part of the problem. I think they were a bit small on that land. I have done ton's of pistons and these were absolutly the hardest I have ever done. I can do a set of 4 in about 20 min too, these were not so easy. Wouldn't have been too bad but the clearance for all the rings was like 0.000000000001 with that extra ring in there. If the oil support ring was out I would say I could put them in no problem. I had my machine shop put the rings on the pistons, I put them into the car myself etc ect.

Kevin
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I would think that if a company send out the wrong part, they should be obligated to get the correct parts to the customer ASAP at their expense reguardless of the original shipping time. I don't see why the customer should have to suffer for a campany mistake. That's just not good business ethics. But, I used JE's on my JE pistons, they work great, couldn't be better. If the gaps are correct and the bore was good, everything should be fine.
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Hey, have you seen my tail lights? Yeah, well get used to looking at them.

I agree with you. The howell customer service sucks balls, there is no doubt. I will never purchase from them again. The only reason I did get from them was that special they were running on the longrod kit. I have emailed them a couple of times with some questions and gotten NO response. I once tried to ask a question on the message board and it got thrown out since "I did not follow the forum rules" to the letter. You would think after spending a grand at thier shop they would be a bit more helpful.

Kevin
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