okay got everything together and everything and today i got to start it up...
it starts and runs for like 20 seconds and then dies out...
i THINK its fuel related here because my fuel pressure gauge (which is mechanical and goes to the end of the fuel rail) is reading like 42psi...

im using 440cc injectors and the FMU with the 4:1 disk in it.

anyone have any input on this or anything of what to look for or to fix? i obviously cant adjust the fuel pressure since im only using the fmu....but i think 42psi fuel press is high enough to kill the engine correct??
PLEASE HELP FELLA'S!

-MIKE-

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oh ya one more thing...
i have a push button start cuz my ignition is fucked up somewhere and its wired straight to the starter and battery with 2 wires, leading to the button, and it started today without even having the clutch down to the floor?? thoughts on that too please, lol

-MIKE-

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



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nooo, just last spring before i pulled the motor out, i used to have the clutch all the way down before it would start. if i didnt have the clutch down, it would just crank and not start, and now it just starts. so ha! lol....

dino, i thought i read somewhere awhile ago that you were using 440's and the 4:1 disk in the fmu too....
what did you use to turn down your idle fp? an s-afc???

i have an afc but its not hooked up yet...

-MIKE-

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Well let's see here 42psi base pressure is perfect for STOCK injectors. But with 440's it floods the engine like it is doing now. I KNOW you knew that to run 440's you would have to have a device of some mechanical or electronic means to control the idle, right? As for the button start, it won't need the clutch down cause you have it hard wired. The clutch needing to be in is a function of the car STOCK, so if you run wires to bypass it all then it is no longer needed. i do not have a push button though so that last part could be wrong but i'm 99% sure that is what you wree saying...

I edited to the wiki!

2005 Legacy GT Ltd, Garnet Red Pearl
speak softly and spool a big turbo

actually no fucktard, before i used to have it in neutral too when i started it so fuck off big daddy...

yes i knew about having something to turn down the idle pressure, i have an s-afc but i dont have it wired up yet...
nto sure on how to use it yet, and havent reserched much about tuning with it so thats why i didnt install it yet...
so fuel is my problem, i thought taht was it when i seen 42psi for 440 injectors, lol...
i guess i should start searching for wire diagrams for the afc and hwo to tune it

-MIKE-

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Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
actually no fucktard, before i used to have it in neutral too when i started it so fuck off big daddy... yes i knew about having something to turn down the idle pressure, i have an s-afc but i dont have it wired up yet... nto sure on how to use it yet, and havent reserched much about tuning with it so thats why i didnt install it yet... so fuel is my problem, i thought taht was it when i seen 42psi for 440 injectors, lol... i guess i should start searching for wire diagrams for the afc and hwo to tune it

2005 Legacy GT Ltd, Garnet Red Pearl
speak softly and spool a big turbo

Originally posted by 97whitESi

Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST actually no fucktard, before i used to have it in neutral too when i started it so fuck off big daddy... yes i knew about having something to turn down the idle pressure, i have an s-afc but i dont have it wired up yet... nto sure on how to use it yet, and havent reserched much about tuning with it so thats why i didnt install it yet... so fuel is my problem, i thought taht was it when i seen 42psi for 440 injectors, lol... i guess i should start searching for wire diagrams for the afc and hwo to tune it

noting the OBX fuel rail, OBX intake manifold and that wonderful paint job, id say you were a fucktard. fucktard.

-MIKE-

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Jesus Dude... you're like bad case of Herpes...you can't be ignored and you won't go away and the only thing you're good for is for proviiong a base level of stupidity to weigh all other stupid people against!

we told you in the very beginnig you were to damn stupid to do this car, and you keep comin with more and more assinine crap!!!

Why do you insist on asking us about every god damned thing under the sun with your ghetto-ass car! you build a widebody and try to build the engine, and yet you have your ignition afro-engineered...

you are so absolutely and painfully pathetic it makes my brain hurt...

USED TO HAVE...Everything you wish you had, and then some...

You are somebody special Tim, you matter! - from the admins (but nobody likes you, because your username is just like that other guy's, and you whine a lot)

See? I told you that you were a jackass. Good luck with that shit.

good god man.

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

To help you understand why you car starts up without the clutch (lol)... you only have the actual ignition startup wire hooked up to the button. By doing this, you bypass the the ignition harness which includes the wire that lets the car know the clutch is not in and to not start. I'm not sure exactly, but common sense tells me that the only reason you need that "feature" is in precaution of stupid people not remembering they are in gear when they start the car.

tim, come suck a nigga's dick since all you like to do is run to the forum when you have a tranny problem. ive seen more tranny posts from than anyone you fuckball. now get over and suck my cock you lonesome BANME!.

-MIKE-

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not only are you so stupid that you make Special Olympics people look like M.E.N.S.A., but now you bust out with the racist crap! nice job there, Nancy, that'll get ya taken seriously (not that theres a snowballs chance in hell of that ever happening, but...)

USED TO HAVE...Everything you wish you had, and then some...

You are somebody special Tim, you matter! - from the admins (but nobody likes you, because your username is just like that other guy's, and you whine a lot)

Tim,


He makes Special Olympics look like MENSA. That's priceless!

This guy is so pathetic, he's not even worth our time. I'm going to grab another beer. Good show though. I like how your style is progressing.


Cheers.

B

I have come to a conclusion that I owe EVERYONE a MAJOR apology for the way i have talked and come across in the thread. so to all: I AM SORRY FOR THE WAY I ACTED AND FOR THE THINGS I SAID, I MEANT NONE OF THEM TRULY. It was just that when you do a rebuild or something big liek this and start it for the first time, your hoping to be like, oh snap, sweet, everything is working right...
INSTEAD, i was like, oh snap, something got fucked up.
although i pretty sure its my fuel press is too high, and i went out and got a new sfmu today to help fix this, it really sucked. you get your hopes up on something and it all falls down to the floor. im sure most of you know how this is, so PLEASE accept my apology, especially good ol' timmy. tim, you know your shit and i give you props. i promise to start searching MORE than what i have before i post questions. i thank you for your time and hope you accept my apology, but for now, i have a sfmu to install

again, sorry to all, and tim, good luck with your wife and new born baby to be

-MIKE-

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uhmm yeah so do you have that S-AFC in yet?

1995 Eagle Talon ESi

nope, gonna fiddle with the sfmu when its all hooked up and then go from there!

-MIKE-

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lol this shit it funny. Its sad that your all talking shit over the internet tho...

ya its funny huh....
i no longer talk smack to anyone

-MIKE-

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Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by 420a2ner lol this shit it funny. Its sad that your all talking shit over the internet tho...

-MIKE-

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Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by 420a2ner lol this shit it funny. Its sad that your all talking shit over the internet tho...

97 RS: work in progress.. a lot of work.. little progress.

Originally posted by DemiGodX

Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by 420a2ner lol this shit it funny. Its sad that your all talking shit over the internet tho...

ohh snap, i fell off my chair and had beer coming out my nose... lol

1992 Plymouth Laser
-Bone stock for now.

I.B.T.L., anyone?


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-MIKE-

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I.B.T.L.

1992 Plymouth Laser
-Bone stock for now.

hey at least he apologized and got the thread back on track...

btw about the clutch thing - yea it's b/c you bypassed the ignition harness and clutch sensor. a lot of people actually disable that feature on purpose. there's a wire on the clutch pedal that senses when the clutch if fully pressed. if you disconnect it, it basically shows that the clutch is pressed down ALL the time. from there you just make sure you're in neutral and that there's no small children or animals in front of you if you happen to be in gear by mistake.

i guess it's not something you think about after awhile but for me it's SOOO much more convenient being able to start the car without having to push in the clutch.

-marc

at least he apoligized, good going mike. yeah the bypass, i have mine hooked up like that a friend said something about having a tt somethin like that. glad to see the car started even if it was just for a second. talk to u soon

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hey, it started for 20 seconds...TWICE! lol
i got the sfmu almost hooked up, im short on time now.
gonna get it done monday and see what happens.

-MIKE-

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you know what, i noticed something else that was odd when i starter it up...

after the third time of it running for 20 seconds, it was knocking a little bit?
i KNOW it cant be from the rods, they are brand new along with the bearings and shit. everything was in factory specs too on the crank?
maybe a lifter or something? any ideas on that shit fella's!?

-MIKE-

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i think it might be what everyone calls piston slap.? not sure tho. i cant remember if mine does that too?

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What kind of oil pressure do you have?

Did you prime the lash adjusters before you put it back together?

Also did you put the head gasket on the right way? If the gasket is on wrong the head will not get oil.

Joe
MFG Racing

95 GS
MSnS
FP3052 coming soon.


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ya im 99.9% sure the HG was on right. when i put the head on, i poured a cup of oil over the cams and shit,. and before i started it, i primed it by cranking it for like 30 seconds before the first start. as for my oil press, not sure, my gauge read zero! but there was oil in my feedline. hopefulyl there is a kink or someting in the oil pressure hose leading to the gauge....

piston slap will occur until the pistons expand right? since forge pistons do expand a little bit correct

-MIKE-

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First thing I would do is to make sur that you are getting good oil pressure. If your are not, it will only take a minute to fry the bearings.

As for the pistons making noise. I have never heared my pistons on my Eclipse or any other cars that have had with forged pistons. They may make a little noise until it warms up, but it will not be noticeable especeally if you have a loud exhaust. But like I said, I have never heared them make any noise before.

Definetelly check you oil pressure. If your not getting pressure, you may have already spun a bearing. Hopefully that is not the case.

Joe
MFG Racing

95 GS
MSnS
FP3052 coming soon.


http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1107

http://www.cardomain.com/id/95turbogs

i have to have oil pressure though because i got oil into the feed line to the turbo. i dont think i could have spun a bearing already, it ran for like 30 seconds MAX, lol....
im going to check the gauge line monday and see whats up with the oil pressure...


any other suggestions on what the knock was from? it wasnt really loud, but not quite either. hmmm

-MIKE-

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