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CyrusJan-18-05 04:00 PM
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#84898, "Choosing a fuel rail."




          

I'm sorry for asking, but, I was wondering which fuel rail would be best all around for performance? If a Turbo and a Non-Turbo make a difference please let me know... Also I've heard that 4G63 injectors work in our fuel rail, correct?

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RE: Choosing a fuel rail., Ark, Jan-18-05 04:13 PM, #1
RE: Choosing a fuel rail., foggy45, Jan-18-05 04:14 PM, #2
RE: Choosing a fuel rail., AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jan-18-05 04:43 PM, #3
RE: Choosing a fuel rail., Ark, Jan-18-05 05:18 PM, #4
      RE: Choosing a fuel rail., foggy45, Jan-19-05 04:53 AM, #5
           RE: Choosing a fuel rail., Chamuko, Jan-19-05 06:41 AM, #6
                RE: Choosing a fuel rail., thedawg, Jan-19-05 06:44 AM, #7
                     RE: Choosing a fuel rail., SILVERNT, Jan-19-05 06:59 AM, #8
                          RE: Choosing a fuel rail., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-19-05 08:12 AM, #9
                               RE: Choosing a fuel rail., Chamuko, Jan-20-05 06:31 AM, #10
                                    RE: Choosing a fuel rail., eclipse_99rs, Jan-20-05 07:48 AM, #11
                                         RE: Choosing a fuel rail., gofaster87, Jan-20-05 11:23 AM, #12
                                              RE: Choosing a fuel rail., Blizare, Jan-20-05 11:29 AM, #13
                                                   RE: Choosing a fuel rail., gofaster87, Jan-20-05 11:33 AM, #14
                                                        RE: Choosing a fuel rail., eclipse_99rs, Jan-20-05 01:02 PM, #15
                                                             RE: Choosing a fuel rail., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-21-05 11:27 AM, #16
                                                                  RE: Choosing a fuel rail., gofaster87, Jan-21-05 01:24 PM, #17
                                                                       RE: Choosing a fuel rail., Cyrus, Jan-21-05 05:53 PM, #18
                                                                       RE: Choosing a fuel rail., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-21-05 07:25 PM, #19

ArkJan-18-05 04:13 PM
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#84899, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Originally posted by Cyrus
I'm sorry for asking, but, I was wondering which fuel rail would be best all around for performance?

Stock is more than fine. Most of the aftermarket rails for the 420A have fitment issues anyway.

Originally posted by Cyrus
I've heard that 4G63 injectors work in our fuel rail, correct?

Yes but they need a resistor pack to be wired in with them. This has been covered before and can be found through searching for DSM injectors or 450cc injectors.

  

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foggy45Jan-18-05 04:14 PM
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#84900, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Jan-18-05 04:14 PM by foggy45



          

most people on this board that go turbo keep the stock fuel rail! its very hard to max out the stock rail unless you start pushing high hp #'s. i think its like 4 or 5 HUNDRED horsepower but i cant remember the exact number.

keep yours until you have an application that actually requires a rail with some AN fittings, then look up "Star Turbo Talon" and get on you knees and beg him to make you one!

once again, nothing from the 4g63 engine will fit ours! like anything that you would try and fit from that car into ours, it would require rewiring and a lot more work than its worth.
if you need injectors get a set of high-impedence Accel injectors and call it a day!

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonJan-18-05 04:43 PM
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#84901, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Jan-18-05 04:44 PM by Star Turbo Talon



          

Originally posted by foggy45
keep yours until you have an application that actually requires a rail with some AN fittings, then look up "Star Turbo Talon" and get on you knees and beg him to make you one!


Excuse ME?

  

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ArkJan-18-05 05:18 PM
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#84903, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Jan-18-05 05:19 PM by Ark

          

Originally posted by foggy45
once again, nothing from the 4g63 engine will fit ours! like anything that you would try and fit from that car into ours, it would require rewiring and a lot more work than its worth.

emoji I love telling people to do things the right way first but telling them wrong information is retarded. Think before you post.

  

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foggy45Jan-19-05 04:53 AM
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#84909, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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its not wrong. if he wants plug and play then the 4g injectors will not work. they are low impedence injectors and will require you to wire in an inline resistor to bring it up to a high enough resistance. and since i dont trust my home-made wiring enough on somthing as important as fuel injectors, accel is a proven alternative.

  

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#84910, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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I think he meant the part of "nothing from the 4g63 engine will fit ours! ". This is false. All the body parts fit. The shifter fits. The interiror fits. Suspension and brakes fit. Only things that dont are the power train components.

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#84911, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Jan-19-05 06:45 AM by thedawg

          

Originally posted by Chamuko
"nothing from the 4g63 engine will fit ours! ". This is false.


I wasn't aware the 4g63 engine included such things as body parts, suspension, or brakes... emoji emoji

  

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#84913, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Originally posted by thedawg
Originally posted by Chamuko "nothing from the 4g63 engine will fit ours! ". This is false.
I wasn't aware the 4g63 engine included such things as body parts, suspension, or brakes... emoji emoji


hahaha, nice one dan

  

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#84914, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Jan-19-05 08:15 AM by Michael_97RS

          

Originally posted by SILVERNT
Originally posted by thedawg
Originally posted by Chamuko "nothing from the 4g63 engine will fit ours! ". This is false.
I wasn't aware the 4g63 engine included such things as body parts, suspension, or brakes... emoji emoji
hahaha, nice one dan


Good perhaps...

But as far as engine parts it's innaccurate. Valve springs are the same.

Now, lets stay on topic.



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#84931, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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:P when you gonna be home Mr pepperdine?

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#84935, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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I know someone who was pushing 400hp on the stock fuel rail.



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#84944, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Hmm, that car says its only running a 75 shot of NOS. How is that 400hp. The point is you wont need a fuel rail until heavy mods are done and most of the time that includes a complete fuel system overhaul. Hey Ivan(Chamuko), whats up man. Havent heard from you in a while.

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#84947, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Originally posted by gofaster87
Hmm, that car says its only running a 75 shot of NOS. How is that 400hp. The point is you wont need a fuel rail until heavy mods are done and most of the time that includes a complete fuel system overhaul. Hey Ivan(Chamuko), whats up man. Havent heard from you in a while.


holy fucking nice CF front there on your evo.

me drools*


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#84948, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Thanks. Hopefully Ill picking up the wider carbon fiber fenders today to finish it off.

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#84949, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Jan-20-05 01:05 PM by eclipse_99rs

          

Thats my car and not the car i'm talking about. That is a part of my sig. here is the link to the car im talking about. http://www.cardomain.com/id/kaynine364



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#84975, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Take the chat to PM, e-mail or instant messanger



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#84977, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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He complimented me on something and I thanked him. I hardly call that chat. Your post was a waste.

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CyrusJan-21-05 05:53 PM
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#84980, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Well then... I think I get the idea... sure... some other damn tangent, but anyways. I have an idea on what to use for given application(s), thanks for explaining. Someday, (yah right!), eclipsey will be "f*ing nice", and maybe, just maybe I'll have something to show you all. Until then, just humor me with answers, while I ask questions. Oh yah, stick to the matter at hand, the more technical, the better.

Thanks for the 2GNT support,

Cy Guy

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#84983, "RE: Choosing a fuel rail."
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Originally posted by gofaster87
He complimented me on something and I thanked him. I hardly call that chat. Your post was a waste.


PLus the when are you going to be home question. Neither of which have anything to do with a fuel rail.

Questions been answered.



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