Well, here are the two that I took today. He has more, and I am sure he will post them. Notice the wrist pin has worked its way out to one side. Run4cvr and DR1665 found parts of the retaining clip in the oil pan.

Not very easy to see, but there is a nice crack in the piston surrounding the area where the wrist pin has worked its way out.

My sympathies to you Brian.

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2012 2500HD LML

Well, I would be posting pictures right now, but I seem to have left my camera at John's house. Meh. Along with my contact lens case and solution. Gotta love driving 30 miles across town in a dust storm only to find you can't pull your contacts to clean them. What a weekend.

I'm currently accepting donations of Chrysler 2.4L engine blocks. Prefer low mileage models if possible.

That is all.

"By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius

sucks.

NOTE TO SELF: Don't drive car hearing odd bottom end noises. Park and try to fix until its broken even more then have someone else dooo eeet.

1998 GS-Turbo KANDY -- For Sale
1999 GS-Non Turbo 10th anniversary Edition

I have been in bed with Dino.....ask me for a picture!

"By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius

1998 GS-Turbo KANDY -- For Sale
1999 GS-Non Turbo 10th anniversary Edition

I have been in bed with Dino.....ask me for a picture!

That sucks!

Moral of the story: DON'T BUY WEISCO PISTONS.

Ebay for a block dude. I've seen 'em as low as $50.

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



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i dunno . my cars name is beth. and daisy is a girly girls name. and my car has a bigger club. your cars lunch money is mine. muhhhaha

LOL! Funny shit Dan.

I haven't forgotten your offer in the PM. I need to figure out what I'm going to do here. Will get back to you soon.

"By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

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~Chris

forums.kaptainmyke.com/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=8
- AGP CAI
- AGP EVM
- MOPAR Stage 1 ECU
- 500cc Injectors

And he wonders why he couldn't make her happy...and someone obviously hasnt moved on. lol

"Asmelbed"? What's that? You saying you smell bad?

"By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

-Roman

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

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If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

wiseco pistons suck ass... end of story
Nick
97RS

turbo8u> shut your SUCK
ZAO684: NIPPLE warning...maybe>?
turbo8u> yea i was a window licker on the short bus in junior high

Ladies, calm down.

1998 GS-Turbo KANDY -- For Sale
1999 GS-Non Turbo 10th anniversary Edition

I have been in bed with Dino.....ask me for a picture!

tell that to the srt-4 guys with wiseco pistons pushing 400whp daily.

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

Originally posted by dougie2 I wish you would try to learn something for a change instead of calling everyone names and acting like you know it all. Sheesh!

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

lol its great to watch you get all worked up, but in reality...you dont really know what you're talking about... ....thats ok though, go ahead on your little kick there dougster

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

get some cp's and call it a day. also dino's avatar is sweet.

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forums.kaptainmyke.com/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=8
- AGP CAI
- AGP EVM
- MOPAR Stage 1 ECU
- 500cc Injectors

And he wonders why he couldn't make her happy...and someone obviously hasnt moved on. lol

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

__________________________________________
~Chris

forums.kaptainmyke.com/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=8
- AGP CAI
- AGP EVM
- MOPAR Stage 1 ECU
- 500cc Injectors

And he wonders why he couldn't make her happy...and someone obviously hasnt moved on. lol

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

__________________________________________
~Chris

forums.kaptainmyke.com/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=8
- AGP CAI
- AGP EVM
- MOPAR Stage 1 ECU
- 500cc Injectors

And he wonders why he couldn't make her happy...and someone obviously hasnt moved on. lol

jus let it go.... LOL

1998 GS-Turbo KANDY -- For Sale
1999 GS-Non Turbo 10th anniversary Edition

I have been in bed with Dino.....ask me for a picture!

not to hijack the thread, but uhh
how the fuck do you pronounce wiseco, or weisco as i have also seen
is it like wy-zeko, or wise-co or wessco or something like that?

2005 Legacy GT Ltd, Garnet Red Pearl
speak softly and spool a big turbo

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forums.kaptainmyke.com/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=8
- AGP CAI
- AGP EVM
- MOPAR Stage 1 ECU
- 500cc Injectors

And he wonders why he couldn't make her happy...and someone obviously hasnt moved on. lol

Weiscos are shit pistons made out of semisolid shit that's been painted the colour of aluminium. Why the fuck does it matter that they can handle 400 WHP on an SRT-4? It doesn't. Stock pistons handle 400 WHP on an SRT-4. What's so amazing about Weiscos doing it?

When everything is in tune, the Weiscos are probably going to be fine. Probably. Not all the time, though. Sometimes shit works loose when it's "engineered" and built by a bunch of ignorant shitstained fucksmacks, like the people at Weisco.

Point is, they are shit. Too many of them fail. Too many of them melt. Too many of them crack. They fucking suck. They can't even get wrist pin length correct. I wonder what else they fucked up on?

Installing wrist pin locks is not really rocket science. Clip, meet groove. Groove, meet clip. Done and all set, unless the clip, groove, and/or the wrist pin is defective.

And for the record, the ends of the wrist pins are beveled to prevent them from being too sharp. Grinding on a 90 with no bevel will start grinding on the retaining clip, and at some point it will fail. Have fun with that!

nm

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'06 Evo IX SE
'98 RS-T 13.8 @ 106.1

OH THE DRAMA!

The fact of the matter is I have one sitting here in front of me on my desk. It is depressing, as it is a sign that Daisy is gutted in run4cvr's backyard (his name is John BTW). A painful reminder that, for the first time in 8 years, Daisy has left me SOL.



I'm fairly certain my dilemma was caused by three factors:


1. Oil Starvation - a contributing factor caused, in my opinion, by my lack of experience and being half-assed by eyeballing piston ring gaps, which allowed oil to be broken down by blow by and oil to be lost by burn off. Oil level was maintained regularly, albeit she was always at the "add" line on the dipstick. She lost a quart every tank of gas (400 miles).

2. General Ineptitude - This was the first rebuild any of us attempted here in Arizona. A true learning experience. After 25k miles, it was apparent, even to me, that the crank and mains should have been machined up, as the rod bearings showed severe uneven wear across the board.

3. Weaker Pistons - Although the marshmallows, er, Wisecos are a decent piston (at least I would agree they are unless you're building a severe duty engine), when faced with my half-assed building skills and lack of tunability, they met their match.

4. Machine Shop - The machine shop that assembled the pistons/rods seemed to be staffed by complete morons. Not only did they tell me to install the pistons backwards (which may be a "trick" for dinosaur owners), they were about as confidence inspiring to talk to about the rebuild as gilee_8.

5. My inability to count properly.


So I think both camps are right here. I'd say that there was nothing wrong with the Wisecos while there was nothing wrong with my engine. Once the tolerances got sloppy, their days were numbered. I'm sure this would be the case for any quality pistons as well, but I'm thinking a more solid piston would grant more slack in the battle against failure. As a small piece of mind for the future of Daisy's powerplant, I will not be returning to the Wiseco catalog for my slugs. I will be using the custom pistons ERT has recommended for me. I'd go with JEs, but it seems they don't make a 10.5:1 CR 2.4L piston yet.



Oh yeah, and I think I like the term fucksmack. Where do you guys come up with these wonderful new words?

"By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius

Originally posted by DR1665v2
Where do you guys come up with these wonderful new words?

__________________________________________
~Chris

forums.kaptainmyke.com/index.php?&act=garage&CODE=12&CID=8
- AGP CAI
- AGP EVM
- MOPAR Stage 1 ECU
- 500cc Injectors

And he wonders why he couldn't make her happy...and someone obviously hasnt moved on. lol

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

Thanks for the advice Josh (and everyone else), but I'm going to spend my money at ERT regardless. No reason to go anywhere else. I'm not taking any chances to save a couple bones. (Which goes to show you new guys a thing or two imo.)

I had to upload pics of the bad tire before work this AM, so I finally got the ones of my damaged cylinder walls uploaded. All the ones I took of the piston were shity and blurry, so this is all that's worth looking at. Fux0r3d!

I think this one shows the damage caused by the top edge of the piston leaning over into the wall and slapping. The edge was starting to round down. It had a nice polish to it there.


IN the middle here, you can see where the wrist pin was riding on the wall. Two vertical lines about a half inch apart running up the middle. This would be so much cooler if I had a built 2-4 ready to go...


If I didn't have a Mountain Dew right here already, I would be thinking about getting one on my way back in. This was the messiest engine pull I have ever done. Remember that fight scene in The Transporter? Yeah. It was kinda like that. Only Daisy kicked my ass instead of me strapping on some bike pedals and whooping ass.

"By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest;
and third by experience, which is the bitterest." - Confucius

Originally posted by DR1665v2
Remember that fight scene in The Transporter? Yeah. It was kinda like that. Only Daisy kicked my ass instead of me strapping on some bike pedals and whooping ass.

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98 Silver Eclipse RS ATX
CAI, header, bored TB, Apex N1, Pro-kit/Tokico combo, custom lower tie bars, cross drilled/slotted rotors