heres the deal, i have absolutely no spark!, crank pos is hooked up, and functioning properly to my knowlege, frigging asd is reading perfect, the coil have no fire, the ohms that run threw it are right on point, the coil harness plug hass no electricity.

the cam magnet sensor is a 2.4 cam magnet sensor, bbrand new, ive tryed switching the wires around a couple different ways and i still have no spark. am i supposed to be using the 2.0 cam magnet sensor? distressed!, let me know, thanks

DWAYNE H
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shitt! i forgot how a gathered that i was supposed to be using the 2.4 sensor, but, the magnet is already rotated, but still , would that be a reason the the iginition pack is not firing

swap outer wires on coilpack????? hows that done, ive never heard of it.

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
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well ive already rewired the injectors, cam magnet should be turned. theres a 2.0 magnet, with a 2.4 sensor.

DWAYNE H
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i think you'll be alright once you get that 2.0 cam sensor on

good luck bro

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okay, so i need to splice into the wires thqat lead to the coil pack, which, which wire to which?

DWAYNE H
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Swap the outer two wires. (L) 1 - 2 - 3 (R), make it (L) 3 - 2 - 1 (R).

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thanks for the quick resonse dino!

DWAYNE H
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Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by widebodied thanks for the quick resonse dino!

Originally posted by turbo8u ...swap the two outer wires on the coilpack..thats why you dont have spark there is 3 wires...1-2-3....swap 1 with 3 and 3 with 1, now your firing order is correct

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i give credit were credit is due, sorry i overlooked your post turbo8u, thanks for the info bro.

"you need to cut the 2 tabs under the magnet and turn the magnet 90 degres counterclock wise"

2tabs?????? got any pics of that alain?

okay last nite, still no fire, i checked the asd relay several times, the ohms are right. i checked the cranshaft pos sensor, it seemeed to right, with voltage passing threw. the harness to the plugin for the coil pack doesnt have any fire. no voltage, not even when cranking over.

i dont understand, i pretty positive it doesmt have a fusible link, if it does, its good anyhow. this is weird! i thought theres only 3 things from keeping the ignition from operating, ASD, crank sensor, and cam sensor, all of these items are there! what else could it be?

im also not getitng a battery light or oil pressure light on ,my instrument panel, instead, im getting numerous blinking check engine lights, proably about 1 minutes worth, i think it means its flashing codes, but i dont know how to check it!

thanks
DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
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it would probably be a lot easier if you had a datalogger or something....codes have always been helpful to me when i dont know whats wrong. your coil problem is kind of weird...im not sure if there is a fusible link either, what i would do though is run those codes and see what you've got...

edit: now you're SURE the cam magnet is rotated exactly 90* counterclockwise?

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when the motor was assembled, i informed him to do this, no im not 100% positive that it is rotated exactly 90. is there anyway to tell? but still if it wasnt, it should still send out some sort of spark. right?

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
under construction widebody eclipse, targa top, 19inch rollers, big brakes, 10 point custom cage, frank 2.4 hrc s20g turbo, custom marble paint job

2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

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you said you ohms the asd relay....the question is do you have 12 os comming out of it? or another way to check is to look for 12pos at the cam sensor. both receive 12v from the asd relay. the asd relay can ohm out ok but still be faulty.

Terry

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you said you're not getting power to the coilpack? test the middle 12v wire and also maybe ground the coil pack better

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there is nothing, zip, zilch nada, reading coming from the ignition ahrness, the middle one was tested last nite, turbo8u, take in mind it been a couple year since ive actually troublshot a dsm, since mine has been down, weres the ground?

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
under construction widebody eclipse, targa top, 19inch rollers, big brakes, 10 point custom cage, frank 2.4 hrc s20g turbo, custom marble paint job

2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

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Ok sounds liek you have not checked for 12v constant at each sensor correctly.

Bottom line when you turn the key....the ASD relay clicks over sending 12v pos to each sensor and many other functions. Without cranking the car one wire of the cam, map, tps, coil pack, and knock sensor will have 12v pos comming to it. that is without cranking, just having the key on. If you dont have that, check the ASD relay has a 12+ from the battery on two of its terminals. one of the other terms goes to the ECU and the other goes to each sensor. If you have 12+ on the coil side of the ASD relay and 12+ on the solid blades of the ASD then the ASD is bad.

This is not particular to DSM's so remember it! If the sensors are not getting 12+ then i dont care what wire you swap, if the cam mag is rotated, or if you rewired the injectors...your car will not start.

Check that before going over all the 2.4 swap issues, then once fixed verify the injectors, spark plug wires and wether or not you rotated the cam magnet.

Correct me if i am wrong but if you rotated the cam mag then you dont need to re-wire the injectors, if you rewire the injectors then you dont need to rotate the cam magnet...Dino Alain didnt we discuss that elsewere? Or did i get that point mixed up?

Terry
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okay, here they goes

camshaft positioning sensor a-bank 1 circuit malfuntion

IAT sensor 1 circuit high input

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and yea, i got this cam posi sensor with sensor not even pluged up

alain, also, i bought a wells connector for the cam posi sensor, and the wire colors and lead wires are different, do u have any info on that?

DWAYNE H
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2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

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no, the colors are totally different. just turned the magent, still getting the codes for cam sensor, im definatly not understanding the bank one thing, i didnt have any of my o2 sensors hooked up, but that shouldnt have nothing to do with why im not getting any spark. im mean nothing, something is definatly wrong, asds have 12volts running threw them, the ohms are the relays deemed fine, and still no spark, i know its not sparking because, ive taken the sparkplug out of the cylinder. nothing.

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
under construction widebody eclipse, targa top, 19inch rollers, big brakes, 10 point custom cage, frank 2.4 hrc s20g turbo, custom marble paint job

2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

ALMOST THERE...... MUWHAHAHAHAHAHA

bump, i need help

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
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2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

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Dwayne,
I have been holding back because I don't want to look like an idiot. but, you seem to need a little input here.

to start with..
I am doing my own 2.4 project and I have read a lot on the subject, and I don't remember us ever having to touch the cam sensor, only the crank sensor. if I recall correctly you are running some 2.4 cams, right? why? maybe it would be best to run the 2.0 cams until you get this problem sorted out, move the injector wiring and swap the outer wires on the coil.

btw, what year engine are you running. I have heard that the 2001+ engines have the newer crank sensor magnet that will not sent the proper values to our ecu.

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