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lickscissorsApr-28-04 03:05 AM
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#73659, "Installed built engine...idling like crap... help"




          

i just installed my built 9.6:1 JE pistons and Eagle rods engine... i have a warbro 255 fuel pump, 30# injectors, and SFMU... im running non-turbo right now and its running like shit.... its idling really rough, and im only getting 10Hg/in of vacuum.... i had a CEL that said system too rich.... i have no idea how to adjust the fuel pressure or what needs done....i have a gauge hooked up to the port on the fuel rail.... if i turn the screw on the top of the SFMU i can raise and lower my fuel pressure....but its not making any differnce in the idle.... what am i missing....what could be the cause of this....any help, thanks
doug


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RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help, TeamDR1665, Apr-28-04 05:27 AM, #1
RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help, soulcontroller, Apr-28-04 05:47 AM, #2
      RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help, lickscissors, Apr-28-04 07:00 AM, #3
           RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help, lickscissors, Apr-28-04 08:23 AM, #4
                RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help, TeamJasonESi_T, Apr-28-04 08:41 AM, #5
                     PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-28-04 10:58 AM, #6
                          RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., TeamXtremeRS, Apr-28-04 11:29 AM, #7
                               RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-28-04 12:08 PM, #8
                                    RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-28-04 12:31 PM, #9
                                         RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-28-04 01:47 PM, #10
                                              RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., TeamXtremeRS, Apr-28-04 01:51 PM, #11
                                                   RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-28-04 02:35 PM, #12
                                                        RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., TeamXtremeRS, Apr-28-04 06:38 PM, #13
                                                        RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-28-04 06:39 PM, #14
                                                             RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-28-04 06:48 PM, #15
                                                                  RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., TeamXtremeRS, Apr-29-04 06:12 AM, #16
                                                                       RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-29-04 06:32 AM, #17
                                                                            RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-29-04 07:00 AM, #18
                                                                                 RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-29-04 09:12 AM, #19
                                                                                      RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., turbo8u, Apr-29-04 09:25 AM, #20
                                                                                           RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, Apr-29-04 02:06 PM, #21
                                                                                                RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., MrSlick, Apr-29-04 02:16 PM, #22
                                                                                                RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., TeamXtremeRS, Apr-29-04 02:21 PM, #23
                                                                                                     RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., lickscissors, May-01-04 06:12 PM, #24
                                                                                                          RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........., GhEttOrAiD, May-02-04 08:34 PM, #25

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#73667, "RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help"
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I can't help with the fuel issues, but have you double checked all your vac lines? Did you reuse the old lines or get new ones? Make sure none of them picked up any dirt or obstructions while they were waiting to be installed imo. emoji

Good luck man! emoji

  

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#73668, "RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help"
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Apr-28-04 05:48 AM by soulcontroller

          

lower your fuel pressure. you may have to use the darker spring in your sfmu to achieve a lower pressure with larger injectors.

otherwise im going to say your timing is off.

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#73671, "RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help"
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my timing cant be off....my cam gears are lined up perfectly, the car revs up fine.... i dont have the darker spring...hell, i dont even know which one is in there to begin with....but i showed someone a picture of what i got and they said that it was already setup for 30#.... anyways, i was told my idle fuel pressure should be around 27 psi? i can set it from about 20 - 40 with the screw on the top...but its not smoothing out the idle at all.... so doesnt that rule out the spring....cause i can get to the right fuel pressure..... do i touch the ports on the side of the sfmu...the vac, boost, and bleed? thanks, any one else?
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lickscissorsApr-28-04 08:23 AM
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#73675, "RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help"
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ok, i do have the darker spring in there....i have the silver one still rapped up so im assuming the dark one is in there.... its idling at about 30psi of fuel pressure.... im getting the same CEL again...system to rich (bank 1).... i have no idea how to lean this thing out.... my sparkplugs were black.... what am i missing...someone please help, i need to get it going...thanks
doug


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screw flanders

  

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#73676, "RE: Installed built engine...idling like crap... help"
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Heck, you're still n/t. Put the 235's back in there and see if it helps. If not, it may be related to your O2 sensor.

Do you have a datalogger? What's the idle fuel trim like?

You can always keep leaning her out until she runs better. Also, after your fuel trims look good, throw in some new plugs.

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#73684, "PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Originally posted by JasonESi_T
Heck, you're still n/t. Put the 235's back in there and see if it helps. If not, it may be related to your O2 sensor. Do you have a datalogger? What's the idle fuel trim like? You can always keep leaning her out until she runs better. Also, after your fuel trims look good, throw in some new plugs.


im still N/T, but its a bitch to get to the injectors with the intake manifold still on, thats why i just wanted to break the engine in with the 30# in...and if i cant get it to idle now, i still wont be able to get it to idle when i am turbo.... i put brand new plugs in, and they are already black...from about 20minutes of her running.... i dont know what the idle fuel trim is, but what is a good reading? ill check it when i get home.... i have two springs that came with my SFMU...a long one, and a short one...i dont have a dark one.... the long one was in with the 2.72 ring and disk...thats what i believe is supposed to be in there....i have a 95, so i just ran a 1/4" hose over to the sfmu, then one back to the return line...is that ok? my O2 sensor was fine before, so i figured it would still be fine, i cant get my fuel pressure any lower than 30lbs.... ive read its supposed to be at 22psi for 30# injectors...is that correct?? i did the regulator mod and i do have vacuum supplied to the sfmu....please someone help... thanks
doug


14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders

  

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#73686, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Put the longer, silver spring in there, should let you run a lower idle fuel pressure, around 20-22 psi is where you want it. If your fuel pressure is set fine, and it still idles bad, then there is something else wrong. Usually, incorrect timing will cause a bad idle, and low vac. Which cam gears do you have? There have been ones that the marks are not maked properly, even though they may line up, esp with the AFX gears..


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#73690, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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i had the longer spring in with the 2.72 disk...i couldnt get the fuel pressure lower than 30psi.... my cam gears are AEM, i scribed the correct marks on them already.... my timing seems fine to me, but i dropped a damn bolt into my timing cover, so i guess while im in there ill double check it....i was trying to look for a vacuum leak, but i cant find one... i am a 95, so i only ran about a foot of 1/4" fuel hose to the sfmu, and one back to the stock return line.... i dont have the restrictor for the sfmu, but i dont think thats the problem....any other ideas? and how do you exactly adjust fuel pressure with the sfmu, is it the top screw, or the vacuum screw on the bottom? any help, thanks
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#73692, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Apr-28-04 12:31 PM by DarkOne



          

Check for vacuum leaks. I know i had several when i did my first motor.

How much time are you giving the car to adjust to the lower fuel pressures? It's not instant, you know.

Do the keydance again and tell us every code you get.

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#73696, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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im not doing the key dance...i have a logger....the only code that came up was system too rich.... ill check again for vacuum leaks, but i dont know what else would be leaking.... how much time do i need to give the car? and again, how exactly do i adjust the fuel pressure, the top screw, or side vacuum screw? thanks
doug


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#73697, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Apr-28-04 01:54 PM by XtremeRS

          

If you are using a 1/4" return line, then that explains why you cannot get any lower pressure..the line is not large enough to flow that much return fuel, and the restriction is preventing you from lowing the pressure...Use at least 5/16" or larger fuel return lines..When using a high volume fuel pump, there is A LOT of fuel flowing through the return lines back to the tank, when pressure is low. If you have a logger then look at your timing at idle, should fluctuate around 3-9 degrees advance. Look at your fuel trims too, if you get the CEL, the both trims will be maxed out at -25% most likely. If your timing is off, then your timing will show very strange numbers, like going into the negatives, back up to higher postives. YOu adjust fuel pressure at idle, iwth the top allen screw on the SFMU..In raises, out lowers it..


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#73701, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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i thought that was an advantage for me because my 95 already had a return line? i have to tear out my whole return line and put a new one in? is there any other way or reasons...
doug


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#73710, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Check the "vac" port on the SFMU. There should be a little screw in there, prob an allen head, with a very tiny hole in the center of it. Be SURE this set screw is all the way in, and snug, but dont overtighten it. If this screw is adjusted outward, it lets in air to the SFMU main air chamber, and could prevent it from giving you a lower fuel pressure. Your return lines are a bit small, but you may be able to get the pressure down some..if all else fails, then run larger return lines back to the tank. Just double check those ports on the SFMU lid:

Boost: set screw all the way tightened down
Bleed: either plugged, or with a bleed valve attached
Vac: set screw all the way tightened down

I got decent fuel trims with around 20-22 psi of fuel pressure at warmed up idle. Anything over 27+ psi, would trip the too rich CEL, and very high fuel trims..


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#73711, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Originally posted by lickscissors
i thought that was an advantage for me because my 95 already had a return line? i have to tear out my whole return line and put a new one in? is there any other way or reasons... doug


Your factory return line is fine.

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#73713, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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ok, i had it roughly around 22psi of fuel, but it was still lumpy...i checked a couple other things, started the car back up, and it was back at around 30...i know my vacuum screw is out a little, but i was playing with it back and forth and it didnt seem to make any difference....my datalogger told me my fuel trim was at (-15) - (-25)%.... im not completely sure what that means....im going to try my O2 sensor, but i really dont think thats it....im still getting only 10 HG of vacuum....i just made another gasket for my Jeep T/B...i need to double check my block-off hole thingy for that.... thanks for the help, and keep the suggestions commming, ill let you know how my ride goes tomorrow...
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#73730, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Originally posted by lickscissors
ok, i had it roughly around 22psi of fuel, but it was still lumpy...i checked a couple other things, started the car back up, and it was back at around 30...i know my vacuum screw is out a little, but i was playing with it back and forth and it didnt seem to make any difference....my datalogger told me my fuel trim was at (-15) - (-25)%.... im not completely sure what that means....im going to try my O2 sensor, but i really dont think thats it....im still getting only 10 HG of vacuum....i just made another gasket for my Jeep T/B...i need to double check my block-off hole thingy for that.... thanks for the help, and keep the suggestions commming, ill let you know how my ride goes tomorrow... doug


I would seriously re-check your cam timing..since you have aftermarket gears, i'd also be POSITIVE that the marks are in the correct locations..With that fuel pressure, the motor should be idleing ok..that low of vac just seems to be a symtom of incorrect cam timing..did you check the ignition advance at idle?? What is it saying? When we did Soulcontroller's rebuild, he had AFX gears where the marks were not lined up properly..didn't know that at first, and when the motor was run, it idled like crap, and had low vac..Turned out the gears were not marked right..just ended up putting on the stock gears, set the timing, and it ran perfect..This is why i keep saying it could be your cam timing...when i put the datalogger on his car, the timing advance was all over the place at idle..even went into the negatives! That was not right at all, because the ECU was trying to figure out timing with the cams being off..It should idle between 2-9 degrees advance, and it will fluctuate between these values...If it reads any different, then its your cam timing. Your are prob running too rich because if your exhaust cam is off, that throws off your cam sensor, which is used to tell the ECU to inject fuel, and timing.


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#73732, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Originally posted by XtremeRS
I would seriously re-check your cam timing..since you have aftermarket gears, i'd also be POSITIVE that the marks are in the correct locations..With that fuel pressure, the motor should be idleing ok..that low of vac just seems to be a symtom of incorrect cam timing..did you check the ignition advance at idle?? What is it saying? When we did Soulcontroller's rebuild, he had AFX gears where the marks were not lined up properly..didn't know that at first, and when the motor was run, it idled like crap, and had low vac..Turned out the gears were not marked right..just ended up putting on the stock gears, set the timing, and it ran perfect..This is why i keep saying it could be your cam timing...when i put the datalogger on his car, the timing advance was all over the place at idle..even went into the negatives! That was not right at all, because the ECU was trying to figure out timing with the cams being off..It should idle between 2-9 degrees advance, and it will fluctuate between these values...If it reads any different, then its your cam timing. Your are prob running too rich because if your exhaust cam is off, that throws off your cam sensor, which is used to tell the ECU to inject fuel, and timing.


my fuel pressure is back at 30 psi...i dont know why or how i got it down to 22psi, but it wont go any lower than 30 again....ill check my timing again....they are AEM cam gears, i had them on the car before and it idled perfect....i remarked the gears already, i lined them up with the stockers and remarked them.... im going to try messing with the exhaust cam gear and adjust it to see what happens...thanks, ill let you know what happens
doug


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#73737, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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ok, i finally got the logger to connect long enough to get some readings....my fuel trim was at -25% like you expected....my timing was between 3 and 12....so my timing is fine... what is causing my fuel trim that low? im still at 30psi of pressure....dammit...thanks
doug


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#73747, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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The ECU can only pull +/- 25% of the fuel. That's the range of the fuel trim. The car sees it's running too rich and tries to lean out. It can only go down -25%. and still is reaqding rich, you get a CEL.

I wouldn't run fuel pressures under 30psi, I don't want my fuel dripping out of my injectors.

You said your cam gears mark lined up perfectly, did you compare those to the crank mark? The cam gears can line up perfectly, while the crank is half a tooth off... you need all the marks to line up.

I would investigate the cause of your low vacuum reading. The low vacuum reading is going to prompt the ECU to want to run richer. Check for vacuum leaks.

Are you running cams? or a ported head?



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#73752, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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yea check for vac leaks, pull off the vac source for the SFMU and suck on it, you'll hear it whisping from where it may be leaking from, and if theres no leak...it should just be like sucking on a straw with your finger at the end
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#73767, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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update.... i got another CEL while driving...it was 1309 which i read is either timing off, cam sensor, or crank sensor....well cam and crank sensors were fine.... so guess whos timing was off?...i played with the settings on the exhaust cam gear...right now i have it advanced 7 marks on the cam gear....so what is that 14 degrees? ...anyways, its idling alot better...sounds normal...my fuel pressure is holding 20-22psi...my vacuum is at about 15-18 range....it still might need tweaked a little, but its running a lot better..... no CEL...my fuel trim at idle is about -15%...whats a normal reading...what should my ideal reading be?... i guess the proper way to fix it is to pull the timming all back off...but i just did it twice and my UDP is getting beat to hell....anyways...thanks for all the input...car runs great...my first rebuild, and all by myself... next week, is turbo week.... ill let you know what problems i run into then...thanks again
doug


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MrSlickApr-29-04 02:16 PM
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#73768, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Originally posted by lickscissors
update.... i got another CEL while driving...it was 1309 which i read is either timing off, cam sensor, or crank sensor....well cam and crank sensors were fine.... so guess whos timing was off?...i played with the settings on the exhaust cam gear...right now i have it advanced 7 marks on the cam gear....so what is that 14 degrees? ...anyways, its idling alot better...sounds normal...my fuel pressure is holding 20-22psi...my vacuum is at about 15-18 range....it still might need tweaked a little, but its running a lot better..... no CEL...my fuel trim at idle is about -15%...whats a normal reading...what should my ideal reading be?... i guess the proper way to fix it is to pull the timming all back off...but i just did it twice and my UDP is getting beat to hell....anyways...thanks for all the input...car runs great...my first rebuild, and all by myself... next week, is turbo week.... ill let you know what problems i run into then...thanks again doug


You have AEM cam gears, arent they marked wrong the the 2GNT or something? I seem to remember reading that a few times... theyre set for the neon or something...

And BTW, 1/4" return line IS FINE!

I've been running that size line no problem on my car... I had my idle fp down at like 15psi or something with a walbro 255 and 450cc injectors... so I don't wanna hear anything about 1/4 being too small... It's plenty fine for the simple fact that there is No restriction on the rturn to the tank... so it will run back to the tank no problem. That's not too say that bigger isn't better... but 1/4 works.

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#73770, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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Apr-29-04 02:23 PM by XtremeRS

          

Originally posted by lickscissors
update.... i got another CEL while driving...it was 1309 which i read is either timing off, cam sensor, or crank sensor....well cam and crank sensors were fine.... so guess whos timing was off?...i played with the settings on the exhaust cam gear...right now i have it advanced 7 marks on the cam gear....so what is that 14 degrees? ...anyways, its idling alot better...sounds normal...my fuel pressure is holding 20-22psi...my vacuum is at about 15-18 range....it still might need tweaked a little, but its running a lot better..... no CEL...my fuel trim at idle is about -15%...whats a normal reading...what should my ideal reading be?... i guess the proper way to fix it is to pull the timming all back off...but i just did it twice and my UDP is getting beat to hell....anyways...thanks for all the input...car runs great...my first rebuild, and all by myself... next week, is turbo week.... ill let you know what problems i run into then...thanks again doug


Told ya emoji Unless you are intent in making an extra 5-7 HP with the cam gears, just put the stockers back on and be done with it..Also, I mentioned a return being too small, because another board member had the same issue with not being able to lower the fuel pressure enough, and going to a larger return line allowed him to do so..that's where that info came from..I would imaging the higher the flow of the pump, the more this would be a concern, because of the enormous amounts of fuel flowing the return system.


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#73898, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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i adjusted my timing..... i remarked the gears and its running fine...i still have a little lumpy idle, but nothing like before...my vacuum is at 17 so thats good.... what is my LTFT and STFT supposed to be at idle...any other tips for tuning with 30#?? thanks
doug


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#73929, "RE: PLEASE HELP ME!!........."
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I had 390's in my car for the initial startup after my rebuild. Smoke and shitty idle, I'd say thats your problem

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