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silvereclipse30	Mar-12-04 09:51 AM
Member since Jan 11th 2004 1661 posts,

#70500, "custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"

Should I get 2.5 custom exhaust or will I got really gain anything and shouldn't worry about it???? I have a cold air intake, header, DP, muffler, plugs and wires.

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RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-12-04 10:41 AM, #1

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ajcfalcon, Mar-12-04 04:45 PM, #2

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-12-04 05:10 PM, #3

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-12-04 07:14 PM, #4

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, The1Bill, Mar-12-04 07:46 PM, #5

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, DSMRoadster, Mar-13-04 08:53 AM, #6

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-14-04 08:08 AM, #7

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, Team

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RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, DSMRoadster, Mar-14-04 08:36 AM, #9

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, stv, Mar-14-04 08:45 AM, #10

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-14-04 11:51 AM, #11

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ashah000, Mar-14-04 12:34 PM, #12

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-14-04 02:37 PM, #13

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ajna_star, Mar-14-04 02:55 PM, #14

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-14-04 03:07 PM, #15

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-14-04 03:48 PM, #16

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ashah000, Mar-14-04 03:05 PM, #17

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-14-04 03:23 PM, #18

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-14-04 03:46 PM, #19

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, DSMRoadster, Mar-14-04 03:54 PM, #20

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-14-04 04:01 PM, #21

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ajna_star, Mar-14-04 04:02 PM, #22

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ajcfalcon, Mar-14-04 04:10 PM, #23

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ajna_star, Mar-14-04 06:20 PM, #24

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-15-04 12:23 AM, #25

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-14-04 05:03 PM, #26

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, silvereclipse30, Mar-14-04 05:31 PM, #27

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-14-04 05:38 PM, #28

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ashah000, Mar-15-04 02:17 AM, #29

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, tim97rs, Mar-15-04 03:29 AM, #30

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, ashah000, Mar-15-04 06:23 AM, #31

RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???, DSMRoadster, Mar-15-04 07:12 AM, #32

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tim97rs	Mar-12-04 10:41 AM
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#70502, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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you wont really gain anything noticable. dont waste the money unless you plan on doing NOS or boost.

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ajcfalcon	Mar-12-04 04:45 PM
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#70533, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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i have the same set up and when i got my exhaust i noticed a difference. im not saying the other guy was wrong, im just saying from personal experience i think its worth it. i paid $300 installed and if i could do it again i would.

1998 GS
Mods: Cold air intake, Ported/polished stock intake manifold, AFX 55mm TB, Pacesetter header,
Custom Magnaflow cat-back exhaust system, AFX Underdrive pulley,
B&M short throw shifter(cut/welded), Symborski Shift Kit, Solid front motor mount, Monster ground wire kit.

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silvereclipse30	Mar-12-04 05:10 PM
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#70534, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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another turbo guy bein negative.....oh well....I'm think I'm goin tom. so I need to back up or something here.......

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tim97rs	Mar-12-04 07:14 PM
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#70540, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-12-04 07:17 PM by tim97rs

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
another turbo guy bein negative.....oh well....I'm think I'm goin tom. so I need to back up or something here.......

First off you asshat, i wasn't being negative. you asked for an opinion and you got it. me being turbo has nothing to do with it! unless you count it for experience.

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
Should I get 2.5 custom exhaust or will I got really gain anything and shouldn't worry about it???? I have a cold air intake, header, DP, muffler, plugs and wires.

secondly, with your beginner bolt-ons and for the money you will spend on an exhaust you will not see a big gain. You would be better off spending it on an underdrive pulley.
2.5" exhaust = maybe 2-3 hp, MAYBE!! UDP = 6-8 hp!!
not to mention you said custom, which usualy means press bent piping. 2.5" press bent piping = 2"-2.25" exhaust system with all the restrictions at the bends. Plus a 2.5" exhaust system will be worthless if you don't upgrade your muffler with a 2.5" inlet one as well.

Dont ask questions if you dont want the answers!

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The1Bill	Mar-12-04 07:46 PM
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#70541, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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The all-motor car with the fastest timeslip runs a GS-T exhaust. Larger piping would probably cut exhaust velocity to the point where the losses would outweigh the gains.

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DSMRoadster	Mar-13-04 08:53 AM
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#70560, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Originally posted by silvereclipse30
another turbo guy bein negative.....oh well....I'm think I'm goin tom. so I need to back up or something here.......

Fucken Noob.

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silvereclipse30	Mar-14-04 08:08 AM
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#70627, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 6

Originally posted by DSMRoadster

Originally posted by silvereclipse30 another turbo guy bein negative.....oh well....I'm think I'm goin tom. so I need to back up or something here.......

Fucken Noob.

not really dipshit

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DR1665	Mar-14-04 08:33 AM
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#70629, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-14-04 08:34 AM by DR1665

Originally posted by silvereclipse30

Originally posted by DSMRoadster

Originally posted by silvereclipse30 another turbo guy bein negative.....oh well....I'm think I'm goin tom. so I need to back up or something here.......

Fucken Noob.

not really dipshit

Do0d. Play nice and take your licks. Considering these guys are shooting you straight. You know this question would get you at least 3 GSX owners telling you to "sell it and buy the turbo at tooners." Fact of the matter is, while 2.5" ID is ideal for a normally aspirated application, with only simple i/h/e mods, you're not really going to see anything. You would get more of a gain if you were to find a used GST rear section for $50, and picked upa UDP. These guys know what's up and are only trying to help. Take the shenanigains witha grain of salt man. It's normal and before too long, you'll be clling people fuken no0bs too.

Also, if you really want to do it up right, you'd by the piping yoursefl, including the mandrel bends and have it all assembled for you. NO CRUSH BEND IS A GOOD BEND IF YOU CARE ABOUT PERFORMANCE.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and that guy you called dipshit is probably one of the few people on this board who scares me. He is a bad mother fucker and you don't want to cross him man. emoji

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DSMRoadster	Mar-14-04 08:36 AM
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#70630, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Brian we can always count on you to be the nice big brother. As for Tim and myself....well FUCK THE NOOBPOOP! I nuke him.

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stv	Mar-14-04 08:45 AM
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#70631, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 9

If they pack the bends, you wont lose any diameter, but I definately would spend the 300 bucks on a few other things, like said above, udp and gst exhaust, hell if you do it right, you may be even able to get some gears.. definately get alot more than gain w/ that than just a custom exhaust w/ nothing to use that exhaust.. and listen to those guys up there, they know more shit about these cars than I do about my balls. haha that just sounds funny emoji g'luck

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silvereclipse30	Mar-14-04 11:51 AM
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#70639, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-14-04 11:53 AM by silvereclipse30

thanks everyone who is giving good advice....even if u are bein a dick in the process.(not singling anyone out or anything)

I have decided to get the gst cat-back but should I use the gst muffler or use the performance one that I might add sounds amazing(straight thru)....

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ashah000	Mar-14-04 12:34 PM
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#70641, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 11

http://www.motdyn.com/html/exhaust_size.html

Just found this.

www.cardomain.com/id/ashah000

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tim97rs	Mar-14-04 02:37 PM
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#70650, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-14-04 02:50 PM by tim97rs

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
even if u are bein a dick in the process

Dude, shut the fuck up and deal!! no one was a "dick" to you until you opened your mouth against an opinion that YOU asked for and didn't like!!!!

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
I have decided to get the gst cat-back but should I use the gst muffler or use the performance one that I might add sounds amazing(straight thru)....

And yet again, you miss the point! the GST muffler IS the upgrade.
and as far as i understand you cant use any part of the GST exhaust other than the muffler.
Unless you do something to increase your HP (which is what i said in the first place "NOS or turbo") over all, the stock size piping is fine with a GST muffler for your bolt-ons!!!

Man, just get whatever P.W.T. ricer exhaust set-up you want and stop asking questions you either cant handle the answers to or don't like the responces to, and stop showin your ignorance!!!

to quote my good friend DSMroadster:

Originally posted by DSMRoadster
Fucken Noob.

appropriate noobness is one thing, but your being a cocky, ignorant noob and tryin to flaunt it!!! That wont fly here....

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ajna_star	Mar-14-04 02:55 PM
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#70652, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 13

speculation on what will and wont give gains doesnt matter worth shit...

the greddy evo & apex'i n1 dyno at 5-6 hp at the wheels. if you have intake and header, you should have a catback.

catbacks DO give gains. period.

now will a custom give as much as the greddy/apex? who knows

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tim97rs	Mar-14-04 03:07 PM
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#70654, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 14

Originally posted by ajna_star
speculation on what will and wont give gains doesnt matter worth shit... the greddy evo & apex'i n1 dyno at 5-6 hp at the wheels. if you have intake and header, you should have a catback. catbacks DO give gains. period. now will a custom give as much as the greddy/apex? who knows

agreed! certain "cat-backs" (not custom) have shown HP increase which vary depending on mods. however, for the money that those cat-backs mentioned above cost, someone is much better off with an UDP and a GST muffler on stock piping. those 2 mods alone will give almost twice as much HP as the cat-back alone!

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silvereclipse30	Mar-14-04 03:48 PM
Member since Jan 11th 2004 1661 posts,

#70661, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 14

Thank You ajna star, now thats some good quality advice and info

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ashah000	Mar-14-04 03:05 PM
Member since Dec 03rd 2003 83 posts,

#70653, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 13
Mar-14-04 03:08 PM by ashah000

Originally posted by tim97rs
As far as i understand you cant use any part of the GST exhaust other than the muffler.

Does anyone know this for sure? I plan on getting the GST cat-back exhaust since my current one has a leak. I thought that they were the same from the cat back.

But I am still deciding if I should go with the OBX exhaust or the GST cat-back. My head hurts from thinking too much about it.

www.cardomain.com/id/ashah000

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tim97rs	Mar-14-04 03:23 PM
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#70655, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 17

just found this. i learned something new.. how about that!!!
they are the same as far as stock goes...

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=56834&mesg_id=56834&listing_type=search

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silvereclipse30	Mar-14-04 03:46 PM
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#70660, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 18

only person bein an asshole right now is u......u were negative from the begining as were u were wrong and the "fuckin noobie" was right....I just made a simple statement about another turbo guy bein negative cuz my car wasn't turbo....and its very well known that there are a lot of turbo guys like that but not all....if I could afford the insurance it would be but I'm not rich and I'm in college the car looks tight and I would like to get a lil extra power outta it and make it sound nice......I don't think that qualifies for a ricer but in ur opinion it probably does since I'm not turbo but I don't give a flyin FUCK what u think......once again THANKS everyone for the help.......except for the dick who thinks he knows everything but ur on the right tracks u almost admitted u were wrong about the gst exhaust....sorry kinda long

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DSMRoadster	Mar-14-04 03:54 PM
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#70662, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 19

dude just take it with a grain of salt and listen. A lot of times Tim and I actually say it in a joking manner. You gotta understand we have been on this board for over 5 years. So when we see the same question asked 1000x, when all you could have done was just search, it tends to get to us. Just suck it up and drive on. You'll start to pick up on the humor and scarcasm.

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silvereclipse30	Mar-14-04 04:01 PM
Member since Jan 11th 2004 1661 posts,

#70663, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 20

thats great and all but its a forum this is what its for and there is NO NEED to be an asshole.....end of story

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ajna_star	Mar-14-04 04:02 PM
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#70664, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 21

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
thats great and all but its a forum this is what its for and there is NO NEED to be an asshole.....end of story

hit me up on aim, we can talk more if you want... -> ajnast4r

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ajcfalcon	Mar-14-04 04:10 PM
Member since Nov 22nd 2003 1104 posts,

#70666, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 21

your right there is no need for it but thats the way it is so suck it up or shut up. go somewhere else if you dont like it.

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ajna_star	Mar-14-04 06:20 PM
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#70672, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 23

Originally posted by ajcfalcon
your right there is no need for it but thats the way it is so suck it up or shut up. go somewhere else if you dont like it.

wtf.. supreme unmodded noob talking shit...

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silvereclipse30	Mar-15-04 12:23 AM
Member since Jan 11th 2004 1661 posts,

#70679, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 23

Originally posted by ajcfalcon
your right there is no need for it but thats the way it is so suck it up or shut up. go somewhere else if you dont like it.

HAHAHA....suck me (nice mods)

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tim97rs	Mar-14-04 05:03 PM
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#70669, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 19
Mar-14-04 05:05 PM by tim97rs

Dude!! holly shit!! PLEASE explain to me how in the hell you thought i was being "negative"?

You asked: "Should I get 2.5 custom exhaust or will I got really gain anything and shouldn't worry about it???? "

I answered: "you wont really gain anything noticable. dont waste the money unless you plan on doing NOS or boost."

It seems to me to be a pretty straight forward answer! Where in the hell in all your awesome college education do you find ANY hint of negativity in that reply???????

And Yes, im being a dick because in assuming i was "just one of those turbo guys being negative again", it sounds to me like you already had a pre-conceived idea of us "turbo guys" looking down on the lowly NT guys and judged me for it!! maybe a lil' case of 'turbo-envy'?

Considering you asked about a "custom 2.5" exhaust" ($$$$) and not a cat-back or "performance" muffler only... Yes, you would be waisting your money in a rather ignorant display of stupidity!!!! and since im not the only one who has said that in this thread, maybe you think all the other guys are being negative against you to????

And yes, i was wrong. why? Because years ago when i asked the "what mod next" question and i was told to get a GST muffler to match my current mods, i listened to those who knew what they were talking about. i didnt have to spend dumbshit money on parts i didnt need or wouldnt get anything out of!!! So i never had to know that a GST cat-back would work.

at least i can step up and be a man about my mistakes...whats your excuse college girl?

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silvereclipse30	Mar-14-04 05:31 PM
Member since Jan 11th 2004 1661 posts,

#70670, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-14-04 05:36 PM by silvereclipse30

naw no turbo envy....I know all about them....but some turbo guys look "lowly" on the NT turbo guys which is a known fact....and ur answer was directed in that fashion...this isn't worth the time like I said before....u made ur point and I listen so its over with....no need to argue we'll all friends here right...so everythings cool not worth arguing peace

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tim97rs	Mar-14-04 05:38 PM
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#70671, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 27

Originally posted by silvereclipse30
naw no turbo envy....I know all about them....but some turbo guys look "lowly" on the NT turbo guys which is a known fact....and ur answer was directed in that fashion...this isn't worth the time like I said before....u made ur point and I listen so its over with....no need to argue we'll all friends here right...so everythings cool not worth arguing peace

DAMN!!! i always enjoy a good e-fight!! o well...

all is cool emoji

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ashah000	Mar-15-04 02:17 AM
Member since Dec 03rd 2003 83 posts,

#70681, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 28
Mar-15-04 02:19 AM by ashah000

Ok what about a OBX 2.5" cat-back vs GST cat-back?
The obx is about 300 shipped.
Sorry about the hijack

www.cardomain.com/id/ashah000

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tim97rs	Mar-15-04 03:29 AM
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#70683, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-15-04 03:31 AM by tim97rs

Originally posted by ashah000
Ok what about a OBX 2.5" cat-back vs GST cat-back? The obx is about 300 shipped. Sorry about the hijack

Okay:::::bitch slaps new noob:::::: emoji

AGAIN.....

for the money and DEPENDING on your current mods, $300.00 for a cat-back OF ANYKIND without the mods to support it is foolish, UNTILL YOU HAVE THE MODS TO NEED IT!

Now, having said that, if you have the basics first:
CAI
header
UPD
plugs and wires

then YES get a cat-back to further enhance those mods.

If you dont have those basics first, then you will not see any REAL hp gain (real=5-10hp, for nt) and would not have spent your money well.

If you have those mods, and want a cat-back, go with OBX.

(of course $300.00 is gettin ya pretty close to the ulimite bolt on, NAWZ!!!))))))

i was just messin about the bitchslap, by the wa emoji

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ashah000	Mar-15-04 06:23 AM
Member since Dec 03rd 2003 83 posts,

#70689, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 30

Well i do have those mods except the UDP.
And hopefully this summer i will have a 60mm TB and ported/polished intake manifold.

So with all that is the OBX worth the 300 dollars. Be nice emoji

And I'm not a noob, well sorta, but I'm just too lazy to post emoji
But im on the site everyday. emoji

www.cardomain.com/id/ashah000

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DSMRoadster	Mar-15-04 07:12 AM
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#70692, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
In response to Reply # 31

You're still a fawken noob, noob. Now list your mods so that we can decide on what you should get to give you a little more power.

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DR1665	Mar-15-04 07:50 AM
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#70695, "RE: custom exhaust or don't worry about it???"
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Mar-15-04 07:51 AM by DR1665

Originally posted by tim97rs
Okay:::::bitch slaps new noob:::::: emoji

LOL. Do0d. You just seem so frustrated in this post. Like that guy in the Cox commercial where his kid asks him what the internet was like before high speed internet and the dad has the flashback of him ripping the computer off the desk and throwing it off the second floor balcony screaming "STUIPD DIALUP!!!" LMAO man.

Originally posted by DSMRoadster
Brian we can always count on you to be the nice big brother.

AWWWWwwww. Does that mean that, if you should decide to end my pitiful existance on this Earth, you will let me decide if I want to see it coming or not? LOL. "You've been a good no0b. So I'm gonna let you call it. You want it in the head? Or the chest?"

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